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wingy

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #176
ccfctommy said:
It's a small bag of powder. Probably in a pocket or even a wallet. It's totally impossible to police that on the turnstiles.
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Sniffer dogs are the only solution I've been aware of at concerts etç?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #177
ccfctommy said:
It's a small bag of powder. Probably in a pocket or even a wallet. It's totally impossible to police that on the turnstiles.
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The absolute last thing we need is more searching at the turnstiles. We’ve only just sorted it out.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #178
Who smokes weed at the footy anyway. I’ve turned up stoned before and you don’t want to sing and the whole experience is just muted.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #179
ccfctommy said:
It's a small bag of powder. Probably in a pocket or even a wallet. It's totally impossible to police that on the turnstiles.
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They could have sniffer dogs wandering about.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #180
shmmeee said:
Who smokes weed at the footy anyway. I’ve turned up stoned before and you don’t want to sing and the whole experience is just muted.
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I used to stand in front of someone in the WT who'd chain smoke hash throughout the game, not sure it'd be a lot of fun.
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #181
Sick Boy said:
I used to stand in front of someone in the WT who'd chain smoke hash throughout the game, not sure it'd be a lot of fun.
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I love a smoke as much as the next massive stoner. But it just doesn’t go with football at all.
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #182
chiefdave said:
The latest generation of scanners (the type you walk through) can supposedly detect small amounts of drugs. Not sure if the ones they use at the O2 do that but they definitely detect other things and have replaced searching everyone. You literally just walk through them without stopping and they pull anyone over that flags up. Had the same thing when I went to the ice hockey in Sweden.

The tech is there, just depends on if Frasers or the club wants to pay for it.
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probably not as they don't seem to want to pay for much
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #183
MalcSB said:
They could have sniffer dogs wandering about.
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it's an extra cost for something that happens at most grounds and in reality all you get is people taking all their drugs before they get there meaning you are just left with people who have taken their drugs in far too short a space of time.
 

ccfctommy

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #184
MalcSB said:
They could have sniffer dogs wandering about.
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But why?
 

MalcSB

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #185
ccfctommy said:
But why?
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Why not?
 

MalcSB

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #186
David O'Day said:
it's an extra cost for something that happens at most grounds and in reality all you get is people taking all their drugs before they get there meaning you are just left with people who have taken their drugs in far too short a space of time.
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Oh, so thats OK then. We just put up with it,
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #187
MalcSB said:
Oh, so thats OK then. We just put up with it,
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Coke I couldn’t care less about and it’s more trouble to stop than it’s worth. Weed should be a no brainier though. There’s a fucking huge cloud of smoke to follow!
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #188
shmmeee said:
Coke I couldn’t care less about and it’s more trouble to stop than it’s worth. Weed should be a no brainier though. There’s a fucking huge cloud of smoke to follow!
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Just cos it's hard to police doesn't mean we shouldn't. Cokeheads acting like twats is a big negative experience. It's not like half of them don't show obvious signs of being sniffed up. Can't the police act on suspicions of being under the influence of drugs? If they have these suspicions maybe they should be able to take them aside and do more thorough searches or demand they be tested?
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #189
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Just cos it's hard to police doesn't mean we shouldn't. Cokeheads acting like twats is a big negative experience. It's not like half of them don't show obvious signs of being sniffed up. Can't the police act on suspicions of being under the influence of drugs? If they have these suspicions maybe they should be able to take them aside and do more thorough searches or demand they be tested?
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We could always just clamp down on people acting like twats. But you can’t stop coke being brought in unless you go full body search at the turnstiles which isn’t going to happen.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #190
shmmeee said:
We could always just clamp down on people acting like twats. But you can’t stop coke being brought in unless you go full body search at the turnstiles which isn’t going to happen.
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yeah, I accept that. Hence why it'd have to be, as you say, clamping down on people acting like twats. And maybe part of that clampdown should involve thorough searches and drug tests so charges/banning orders can be brought against them. Anyone caught in possession or found to have drug in their system automatically banned for at least two years.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #191
shmmeee said:
We could always just clamp down on people acting like twats. But you can’t stop coke being brought in unless you go full body search at the turnstiles which isn’t going to happen.
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Sniffer dogs.
I am sorry but I have zero tolerance of illegal use of Class A drugs.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #192
MalcSB said:
Oh, so thats OK then. We just put up with it,
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what effect do people on sniff have on you?

i bet most of the people who think are on it are just pissed
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #193
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Just cos it's hard to police doesn't mean we shouldn't. Cokeheads acting like twats is a big negative experience. It's not like half of them don't show obvious signs of being sniffed up. Can't the police act on suspicions of being under the influence of drugs? If they have these suspicions maybe they should be able to take them aside and do more thorough searches or demand they be tested?
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legally no, you need more than that to perform a legal stop and search
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #194
MalcSB said:
Sniffer dogs.
I am sorry but I have zero tolerance of illegal use of Class A drugs.
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More of a psychological deterrent than an effective drug detection strategy.

How Accurate are Drug Sniffing K-9s? - Pumphrey Law

Law enforcement agencies around the world are beginning to question the reliability of police K-9s trained to detect the scent of certain illegal
www.pumphreylawfirm.com
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #195
David O'Day said:
what effect do people on sniff have on you?

i bet most of the people who think are on it are just pissed
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How much crime in this country can be put down to the supply and use of illegal drugs? Quite a lot which affects everybody.
 
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rexo87

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #196
I’d rather have a few people in the ground on coke than it take double the amount of time to get in the ground. Is what it is. A lot of people in your local pub are also on it. Should we be searching people outside your local as well?


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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #197
MalcSB said:
How much crime in this country can be put down to the supply and use of illegal drugs? Quite a lot which affects everybody.
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i'll take as a no you don't have a clue what someone coke actually acts like

also most drug related crime is centred arou8nd opiods

if you want to talk about the "war on drugs" and it's failure and how police tactics actually make things worse then we can
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #198
David O'Day said:
i'll take as a no you don't have a clue what someone coke actually acts like

also most drug related crime is centred arou8nd opiods

if you want to talk about the "war on drugs" and it's failure and how police tactics actually make things worse then we can
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Thanks for putting me straight, Pablo.
 

Gint11

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #199
Sky blue Pete, can you ask the club about the roundabout outside the stadium with empty flag poles? Would like CCFC flags there
 
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