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Deleted member 2477 · Apr 17, 2021

Hopefully if things stay as they are and we manage to stay in the championship and those currently coming down and up it looks a far more difficult league next year.
MR will really need to pull a few strings to progress next season. The main goal this season was to avoid relegation and cement ourselves in the league. Only the diluded expected anything more however there are three or four teams who you would have expected to hopefully finish below us ie Wycombe, Rotherham, Shef W based on their points deduction.

Next season it looks like we will be replacing these clubs with shef Utd, WBA and either fulham or Newcastle from the Prem all with far bigger budgets than ours a long with parachute payments.
Coming up will be Hull and Peterborough along with possibly scumberland.
with the exception of Peterborough again bigger budgets than us.
looking at this the championship will be a lot stronger next season than this year and realistically would we be favourites to be the new Wycombe.

what does MR need to do in the transfer market to compete next season and will Sisu give him a competitive budget to do it now we will be back at the Ricoh ?

Ccfcisparks · Apr 17, 2021

marcusp said:
Hopefully if things stay as they are and we manage to stay in the championship and those currently coming down and up it looks a far more difficult league next year.
MR will really need to pull a few strings to progress next season. The main goal this season was to avoid relegation and cement ourselves in the league. Only the diluded expected anything more however there are three or four teams who you would have expected to hopefully finish below us ie Wycombe, Rotherham, Shef W based on their points deduction.

Next season it looks like we will be replacing these clubs with shef Utd, WBA and either fulham or Newcastle from the Prem all with far bigger budgets than ours a long with parachute payments.
Coming up will be Hull and Peterborough along with possibly scumberland.
with the exception of Peterborough again bigger budgets than us.
looking at this the championship will be a lot stronger next season than this year and realistically would we be favourites to be the new Wycombe.

what does MR need to do in the transfer market to compete next season and will Sisu give him a competitive budget to do it now we will be back at the Ricoh ?

I'd imagine Peterborough may have a better budget than us to be honest. If Rotherham go down we could well have the smallest budget in the league.

shmmeee · Apr 17, 2021

Lots and probably not.

GK and two CBS and a LWB is a must. Need a big strong striker and an AM/Winger or two depending on how Jones comes back.

Doable with loans but we’d need to spend to get the really good ones, looks like you need to spend upwards of £1m per player and £10k/week wages, if we’re going to be the next fish up the chain from where we were in L1, we need to be buying the types of players we were selling: Wilson, Maddison, McCallum, Bayliss, Chaplin. All went for £1-3m up front plus add ons.

So I’d say to do it properly you’re looking at £10m+ investment in fees and a wage budget of at least £15m/season. And I can’t see Sisu providing either of those.

Best we can hope for is same again: a couple of signings around £1m, a couple of cheap gambles, the odd free, a full compliment of loans.

Taking the same fees as last summer:

£1.3m on Hamer -> GK
£900k on Walker -> CB
£600k on Sheaf -> LWB
£0 on O’Hare -> CM (James)
Cheap gambles (Hilßner, Dacosta) -> AM, CB
Loans -> AM, ST, CB, others

kg82 · Apr 17, 2021

Obviously we’ll need to improve areas. But you don’t know what’s going to happen with other teams. Points deductions, financial insecurity from the past year, general crackpot clubs! The aim will be to improve on this year, we have a proven track record of doing that over the past 3-4 years, no reason to think we won’t again.

SAJ · Apr 17, 2021

shmmeee said:
Lots and probably not.

GK and two CBS and a LWB is a must. Need a big strong striker and an AM/Winger or two depending on how Jones comes back.

Doable with loans but we’d need to spend to get the really good ones, looks like you need to spend upwards of £1m per player and £10k/week wages, if we’re going to be the next fish up the chain from where we were in L1, we need to be buying the types of players we were selling: Wilson, Maddison, McCallum, Bayliss, Chaplin. All went for £1-3m up front plus add ons.

So I’d say to do it properly you’re looking at £10m+ investment in fees and a wage budget of at least £15m/season. And I can’t see Sisu providing either of those.

Best we can hope for is same again: a couple of signings around £1m, a couple of cheap gambles, the odd free, a full compliment of loans.

Taking the same fees as last summer:

£1.3m on Hamer -> GK
£900k on Walker -> CB
£600k on Sheaf -> LWB
£0 on O’Hare -> CM (James)
Cheap gambles (Hilßner, Dacosta) -> AM, CB
Loans -> AM, ST, CB, others

Think I agree with most of this. The budget will be based solely on what SISU perceive will come through the door, they won’t be putting their hand in their pocket to magically create a massive transfer fund. They have been consistent with a message for a number of years now that the club will be self sustainable so I guess budget wise more than this year but by how much? Target will be something like lower mid table.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Apr 17, 2021

Premotion push

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Apr 17, 2021

Potential 11

GK - New no.1
LWB - Ried
LCB - New CB (Van Aken on a freebie from Sheff Weds??)
CB - Osti
RCB - Rose or Pask
RWB - Dabo
LCM - Kelly
RCM - James
CAM - O’hare
LS - Walker
RS - ....

Ccfcisparks · Apr 17, 2021

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Potential 11

GK - New no.1
LWB - Ried
LCB - New CB (Van Aken on a freebie from Sheff Weds??)
CB - Osti
RCB - Rose or Pask
RWB - Dabo
LCM - Kelly
RCM - James
CAM - O’hare
LS - Walker
RS - ....
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You really would be happy starting Kelly and James in a 2 next year...

shmmeee · Apr 17, 2021

If Reid isn’t pushing for the bench when we have no other fit LWBs is he really going to be first choice next season?

robbiethemole · Apr 17, 2021

Van Aanholt is available on a free too, as is Scot Dann maybe worth looking at, still both younger than Fadz.
Mid 30's is the new way forward.

Grendel · Apr 17, 2021

shmmeee said:
If Reid isn’t pushing for the bench when we have no other fit LWBs is he really going to be first choice next season?

Thats the plan

Ccfcisparks · Apr 17, 2021

shmmeee said:
If Reid isn’t pushing for the bench when we have no other fit LWBs is he really going to be first choice next season?

He’s been injured

shmmeee · Apr 17, 2021

Ccfcisparks said:
He’s been injured

So has everyone else pretty much. He’s been playing U23 recently hasn’t he?

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Apr 17, 2021

Ccfcisparks said:
You really would be happy starting Kelly and James in a 2 next year...

Armands face explains it all

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Apr 17, 2021

shmmeee said:
If Reid isn’t pushing for the bench when we have no other fit LWBs is he really going to be first choice next season?

Coming back from an injury needs to adjust still

Ccfcisparks · Apr 17, 2021

shmmeee said:
So has everyone else pretty much. He’s been playing U23 recently hasn’t he?

Hes played 1 game at u23. Theres a bit of a difference in bringing back Godden or Kelly into the first team, than bringing in Reid who has been injured and never played for us.

shmmeee · Apr 17, 2021

Ccfcisparks said:
Hes played 1 game at u23. Theres a bit of a difference in bringing back Godden or Kelly into the first team, than bringing in Reid who has been injured and never played for us.

Fair

Sky Blue Harry H · Apr 17, 2021

shmmeee said:
If Reid isn’t pushing for the bench when we have no other fit LWBs is he really going to be first choice next season?

He is only 18 (19 next month). Hope he makes it, but it would be daft to rely on a lad of that age nailing down that position for the season. The other lad Newton is promising too, but again - very inexperienced.

Esoterica · Apr 17, 2021

We could really do with Derby going down and Rotherham staying up. Derby owner talking about Champions League and, although he sounds bonkers, you'd still expect some significant investment there plus they're one of the clubs who will benefit from a decent sized fan base being back.

no_loyalty · Apr 17, 2021

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Coming back from an injury needs to adjust still

Would like us to confirm our Championship status with a game to spare, so we can give Reid a go to see how he gets on.

Sky Blue Harry H · Apr 17, 2021

Announce Walsh and I'll be happy !

no_loyalty · Apr 17, 2021

Esoterica said:
We could really do with Derby going down and Rotherham staying up. Derby owner talking about Champions League and, although he sounds bonkers, you'd still expect some significant investment there plus they're one of the clubs who will benefit from a decent sized fan base being back.

I would also like Sunderland to miss out on promotion as they are likely to have a big budget next season.

Sky Blue Harry H · Apr 17, 2021

no_loyalty said:
I would also like Sunderland to miss out on promotion as they are likely to have a big budget next season.

Agreed - Oxford, Blackpool or Lincoln would be better for us

Esoterica · Apr 17, 2021

no_loyalty said:
I would also like Sunderland to miss out on promotion as they are likely to have a big budget next season.

They will miss out on autos now, it was in their hands 3 games ago after an unbeaten 12 game run but they've choked at just the right time and suffered back to back losses for the first time this season.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Apr 17, 2021

no_loyalty said:
Would like us to confirm our Championship status with a game to spare, so we can give Reid a go to see how he gets on.

I would like it to be confirmed a couple games before so we can bed in the players like Eccles and Reid and Tavares instead of loan players like McCallum, James and Gyokeres

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Apr 17, 2021

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Agreed - Oxford, Blackpool or Lincoln would be better for us

Would like Lincoln or Blackpool as Walker or Armand would innevitably score a couple of goals against them

Paxman II · Apr 17, 2021

I agree on paper the league might look stronger next season, but how that plays out is always a different matter. have that defeatest midset and you are immediately on the back foot. Godden and Walker have not had the chance to prove what they can do in this league yet so we must resist jumping to too many conclusions. Dabo likewise injuries but on form will be a huge player for us. Jones yet to come back and he is very talented. James has finally shown recently he is very decent in this league. So lets not rip our squad to bits just yet. yes there are lots of dead wood, the likes of Shipley and others to move on. But it's worth 5m to stay in the league and the budget while poor compared to some, will not be the lowest and how they cleverly recruit will be a factor. There will still be sides with weaker squads than us imo. If Rotherham and Birmingham stay up, they look weak. Any side coming up, like us will find it tough and there will be no wholesale changes at those teams. Just look to Barnsley this season and look at a struggling Blackburn. It's never a case of what's on paper. management and coaching play a big part and our return to the Ricoh in the championship I think can make us strong at home.

shmmeee · Apr 17, 2021

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
I would like it to be confirmed a couple games before so we can bed in the players like Eccles and Reid and Tavares instead of loan players like McCallum, James and Gyokeres

Id also like to not have to rush back the likes of Dabo and Rose, and give a couple that are coming back a rest and a proper pre season so we don’t go into next season with the same injury problems.

skybluetony176 · Apr 17, 2021

If we stay up I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s equally as difficult as this if not more. Next season has got to be about cementing our place in the championship as opposed to just staying up.

steve cooper · Apr 17, 2021

If we stay in the championship, and being back at the Ricoh, this would be a good time for Susu to sell.. maybe?

Grendel · Apr 17, 2021

steve cooper said:
If we stay in the championship, and being back at the Ricoh, this would be a good time for Susu to sell.. maybe?

Less chance In truth

Sky Blue Harry H · Apr 17, 2021

Not difficult to see certain 'established' teams having problems next season. Bristol City seem to have gone from promotion candidates to basket case over the course of the season. Blackburn too seem to have hit a wall (and will be without AA next season). based on previous seasons it is likely that 2 (if not all 3) of the promoted clubs will be down in or near the basement. We know where we need to strengthen, so if we can be successful with loans (equivalent to Sam and Osti) and upgrade 3 or 4 of the team (first teams quad, rather than 'development' types) then we ought to be able to get that vital foothold in the league.

Sky Blue Harry H · Apr 17, 2021

Grendel said:
Less chance In truth

Come on G, release the moths from your wallet

SBchimp · Apr 17, 2021

Sky Blue Harry H said:
He is only 18 (19 next month). Hope he makes it, but it would be daft to rely on a lad of that age nailing down that position for the season. The other lad Newton is promising too, but again - very inexperienced.

Having seen both play I think Newton probably edges it but suspect Reid will be put ahead of him. Not sure either yet have the physical attributes to be ready for the Championship, but both are young and have time. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Sam return again next season, he’s not premier league standard at this time and so would assume Norwich will want him out again.

Deleted member 2477 · Apr 17, 2021

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Premotion push

Is that something you do before having a shit ?

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