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NEWS: Coventry City and EFL reach 'Agreed Decision' regarding postponements sanction (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Dec 22, 2022
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jordan210

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #36
Cheers CCC you dicks
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #37
Grendel said:
We made a commercial decision to opt for a licence not a lease. What other club is in a position where they have no influence on anything?
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So the pitch would have been pristine if we had a lease and not a license?
 
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oldfiver

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #38
Grendel said:
Which I assume is the F and B revenue from last year so we’d know they were financially distressed

if we’d agreed a full proper lease for 10 years none of this would be an issue
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It takes all parties to make an agreement?
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #39
Nick said:
So the pitch would have been pristine if we had a lease and not a license?
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Wasps still responsible, our agreement doesn't alter their responsibilities as a landlord
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #40
Like blaming dave boddy for the 13 million work needed at the stadium , nonsense argument

Imagine a match got cancelled for safety reasons ? Our fault too probably
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #41
Grendel said:
We made a commercial decision to opt for a licence not a lease. What other club is in a position where they have no influence on anything?
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I don’t really get what difference having a lease as opposed to a license would have made

The Commonwealth games still would have been held there, the whole stadium was under their control for weeks
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #42
Nick said:
So the pitch would have been pristine if we had a lease and not a license?
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We’d have had a legal agreement regarding whose responsible. A lease could and should have been negotiated which gave the club the ownership of it - instead we had a flimsy license - We will be entirely responsible when FG negotiate - they won’t be repairing pitches we will
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #43
Grendel said:
We’d have had a legal agreement regarding whose responsible. A lease could and should have been negotiated which gave the club the ownership of it - instead we had a flimsy license - We will be entirely responsible when FG negotiate - they won’t be repairing pitches we will
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Really ? I wouldn't replace my roof if it fell off , accord would have too ..why are we different?

I actually don't think you know what you're on about here , just blaming boddy because well it's boddy and you hate him
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #44
Grendel said:
We’d have had a legal agreement regarding whose responsible. A lease could and should have been negotiated which gave the club the ownership of it - instead we had a flimsy license - We will be entirely responsible when FG negotiate - they won’t be repairing pitches we will
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So we should have owned the pitch that was ruined by being rented out with the money going to Wasps?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #45
Nick said:
So we should have owned the pitch that was ruined by being rented out with the money going to Wasps?
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We should pay for a pitch that the landlords rugby club could play on In a stadium that's not ours
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #46
Evo1883 said:
Really ? I wouldn't replace my roof if it fell off , accord would have too ..why are we different?
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It’s nothing to do with roofs falling off - the club agreed a flimsy licence as it wanted a cheaper arrangement

We could have had serious negotiations about the actual terms of the arrangement and we chose not to
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #47
Grendel said:
It’s nothing to do with roofs falling off - the club agreed a flimsy licence as it wanted a cheaper arrangement

We could have had serious negotiations about the actual terms of the arrangement and we chose not to
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What's the pitch got to do with this ? The reason our matches were called off ?
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #48
Nick said:
So we should have owned the pitch that was ruined by being rented out with the money going to Wasps?
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Actually we should by now have owned our own ground.

Regardless the EFL rules are it’s our responsibility- that’s it period.

Is there another club this has ever happened to ever?
 

jordan210

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #49
Basicly we need to be squeaky clean on pitch/staduim issues for two years
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #50
Grendel said:
Actually we should by now have owned our own ground.

Regardless the EFL rules are it’s our responsibility- that’s it period.

Is there another club this has ever happened to ever?
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Yes I agree but you've moved the posts miles
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #51
Really this is only solved long term by the club and ground having one owner.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #52
Evo1883 said:
What's the pitch got to do with this ? The reason our matches were called off ?
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What other club has this happened to?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #53
Evo1883 said:
We should pay for a pitch that the landlords rugby club could play on In a stadium that's not ours
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Or rent out to be destroyed.
 

MatthewWallis

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #54
How has the investigation into this cost £6k???
 
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theferret

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #55
Londonccfcfan said:
Well we made over 250k in gate reciepts yesterday of almost 10k seats sold at average of £25.
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That's all in the budget though. These are anticipated gate receipts. This isn't extra revenue and if anything, the cat A game attendances are down on last season.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #56
I've played rugby sevens and know it won't damage the pitch
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #57
Grendel said:
its the clubs responsibility to ensure games are played. I think we got away with it - clubs are sick and tired of us and it’s entirely the football clubs responsibility to ensure games are played

If we start messing around again and start whining the new deal offered by Ashley isn’t commercially viable tough - that’s a situation created by the owners and no one else - remember we agreed it seems a licence and not a protected lease which is utter nonsense given wasps were clearly distressed. We did it as it’s cheaper and to keep this pathetic charade we are building a new stadium
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Like I said, I know there's a argument about CCFC being on top of it more. That doesn't detract from the fact that Wasps were complicit in the state of the pitch and the lack of repair around it.

When you say clubs are sick and tired of us, what proof do you have or is that opinion? Having spoken to a few in the EFL (inc at least 3 in the Championship), I've only heard sympathetic overtones towards us.

And can you post the link about Wasps not having to offer a new pitch? I must have missed that.
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #58
I like all the opposition fans that dont understand the word suspended
 
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LevelBest

Member
  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #59
Happy_Martian said:
So unless FG mess the state of the Arena and pitch up to a point we can't play there, we're only hit financially and out of pocket to Huddersfield, Wigan and WBA and nothing else. Considering the underlying reasons for the postponements, think this is the best the EFL could have offered.

But watch for a pitchfork and torch-wielding mass of Sunderland Forumites baying for EFL and Sky Blue blood when they get to hear the news. They were screaming for a points deduction after the initial postponement.
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I think WBA was postponed because of the Queen's death so they aren't due anything
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #60
LevelBest said:
I think WBA was postponed because of the Queen's death so they aren't due anything
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Why isn't she paying compensation?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #61
MatthewWallis said:
How has the investigation into this cost £6k???
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Even at paying somebody £500 a day you're getting a couple of weeks' work. You'd imagine there would be meetings with various parties, assessment of documentation etc, £6k doesn't seem extraordinarily high.
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #62
Wouldnt get too excited we wont see this deduction

Harry Styles and Arctic Monkeys amongst other things on the pitch over the summer.

No time for a new one to be laid and could cause issues. Thats if we're even there though tbf
 

Robinshio

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #63
i would get sport england (or whoever runs the commonwealth games) to pay
they should return the stadium in the same condition they take it on surely exactly the same as if you were renting a property
 
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Robinshio

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #64
Saddlebrains said:
Wouldnt get too excited we wont see this deduction

Harry Styles and Arctic Monkeys amongst other things on the pitch over the summer.

No time for a new one to be laid and could cause issues. Thats if we're even there though tbf
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they are both in may so gives 2+ months to sort out a new pitch
 
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theferret

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #65
Saddlebrains said:
Wouldnt get too excited we wont see this deduction

Harry Styles and Arctic Monkeys amongst other things on the pitch over the summer.

No time for a new one to be laid and could cause issues. Thats if we're even there though tbf
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Plenty of time for a drop in pitch after concerts.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #66
Saddlebrains said:
Wouldnt get too excited we wont see this deduction

Harry Styles and Arctic Monkeys amongst other things on the pitch over the summer.

No time for a new one to be laid and could cause issues. Thats if we're even there though tbf
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I’m sure between us we can have a Brianstorm and sort something out.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #67
Can't even see how it would work for FG to now say "you are in charge of the pitch" and then say "oh by the way we are putting on 2 concerts and other football matches on it".
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #68
MatthewWallis said:
How has the investigation into this cost £6k???
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Amuse bouches and Guinness
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #69
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’m sure between us we can have a Brianstorm and sort something out.
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do I wanna know?
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #70
Robinshio said:
they are both in may so gives 2+ months to sort out a new pitch
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Yep. We've had concerts on the pitch over many summers and it's been fine from what I recall.

It was literally due to the parasites and the CGs that it was unplayable.
 
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