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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Yesterday at 11:09 AM
  • #281
GC1976 said:
Skydome and old IKEA building now that’s a stadium location.
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Wonder how much of soon street would have to be removed to build there. Underground parking would help any concerns with that.

Could also move the listed buildings as was originally done not sure.

Either way council won’t sign off on it since they want to build an art studio/museum there

 

SHUNT31

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  • Yesterday at 11:30 AM
  • #282
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Wonder how much of soon street would have to be removed to build there. Underground parking would help any concerns with that.

Could also move the listed buildings as was originally done not sure.

Either way council won’t sign off on it since they want to build an art studio/museum there

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You can’t demolish half of the city ffs
 
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ceetee

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  • Yesterday at 11:32 AM
  • #283
I presume all those desperate for a city centre stadium are people who can easily travel by public transport.
Unfortunately many of us don't have that convenience and would dread trying to find a city centre parking space
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Yesterday at 11:36 AM
  • #284
SHUNT31 said:
You can’t demolish half of the city ffs
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Exactly my point, IKEA is a non starter
 

hinckley cov

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  • Yesterday at 11:37 AM
  • #285
ceetee said:
I presume all those desperate for a city centre stadium are people who can easily travel by public transport.
Unfortunately many of us don't have that convenience and would dread trying to find a city centre parking space
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I wouldn’t worry about it pal we all know it’s complete and utter rubbish Doug hasn’t got enough to buy players and a 40,000 ground would cost 100 million at least.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 11:44 AM
  • #286
SHUNT31 said:
You can’t demolish half of the city ffs
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You need to take a trip to the city centre and see how much of it is boarded off at the moment because they're demolishing it!
 

shmmeee

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  • Yesterday at 11:52 AM
  • #287
“Hey guys you know that stadium we built with major roads all around that has huge traffic problems? Why don’t we make it 30% bigger and move it to the middle of the city??”
 
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shmmeee

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  • Yesterday at 11:58 AM
  • #288
I would love a proper city centre arena though. Not as much as I’d love working public transport to the current one mind.
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Yesterday at 11:59 AM
  • #289
Sky Blue Pete said:
We’ve had the butts retreat
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Great Pub in my day! However some wag took the S and the RE one night and upset a few people
 
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Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 12:01 PM
  • #290
shmmeee said:
“Hey guys you know that stadium we built with major roads all around that has huge traffic problems? Why don’t we make it 30% bigger and move it to the middle of the city??”
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You have always said highfield road could never have been expanded. You really should get out more and visit places like Liverpool and Newcastle.
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 12:12 PM
  • #291
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
The football club is the major contributor to Fraser's bottom line at the CBS. This is a game of bluff but Doug as a responsible owner has to look beyond a lease deal. It would not be good business practice if he didn't explore all the options to maximise the potential now he has earned the good will of the fans. The ground could have been so much better but that's history that doesn't need digging up. The main stand has always looked like a bolt on that doesn't fit the rest of the ground. As long as the club stays within a couple of miles of the city who's bothered as long as it's a success. DK has to do what's best for the future of the club.
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I know some people who’ve been on the tour and the guy showing them round is very pointed that Frasers make no money from hosting football.

The issue clearly is that they want a big increase and we are not in a negotiating position of strength.
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • Yesterday at 12:22 PM
  • #292
Grendel said:
I know some people who’ve been on the tour and the guy showing them round is very pointed that Frasers make no money from hosting football.

The issue clearly is that they want a big increase and we are not in a negotiating position of strength.
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Trouble is where are they going to find a new tenant that will pay the type of rent that CCFC will have to pay,I would think that DK would try to tie the rent up with our promotion dreams, however the can get the WASPs back if they talk to the council
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 12:25 PM
  • #293
Warwickhunt said:
Trouble is where are they going to find a new tenant that will pay the type of rent that CCFC will have to pay,I would think that DK would try to tie the rent up with our promotion dreams, however the can get the WASPs back if they talk to the council
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I think the issue is the return they make is minuscule and they believe the rent is far too low.
 

ceetee

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  • Yesterday at 12:40 PM
  • #294
hinckley cov said:
I wouldn’t worry about it pal we all know it’s complete and utter rubbish Doug hasn’t got enough to buy players and a 40,000 ground would cost 100 million at least.
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No worries personally. By the time it opened I wouldn't be going anyway!
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Yesterday at 12:45 PM
  • #295
Grendel said:
I think the issue is the return they make is minuscule and they believe the rent is far too low.
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I agree with you! But I don't know what they consider how much rent they want off CCFC, is it currently about £1.2 million a year? Or would they be trying to get CCFC rent to be able to cover the current operating loss of the Stadium. If it gets too high then DK would have to think of alternatives
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 12:51 PM
  • #296
Warwickhunt said:
I agree with you! But I don't know what they consider how much rent they want off CCFC, is it currently about £1.2 million a year? Or would they be trying to get CCFC rent to be able to cover the current operating loss of the Stadium. If it gets too high then DK would have to think of alternatives
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There aren’t any but don’t worry grendel says we shouldn’t be interested in what’s going on
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Yesterday at 12:57 PM
  • #297
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
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Doug King doing this as opposed to Tim Fisher
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I thought this was the screenshot from the Coldplay concert for a moment.
 
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GC1976

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  • Yesterday at 1:28 PM
  • #298
Doug King has done good things in his ownership seems a decent genuine guy. With the stadium he put in pitch ownership, paid for flood lights and new turnstiles And upgraded Ryton. It’s well within his rights to explore options regardless of how fanciful. I suspect EFL have asked him what is Plan B for CCFC and he is looking.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Yesterday at 1:34 PM
  • #299
There is no plan B. Frasers know that. They also know they don’t need football there as it makes no cash for them. It’s not a good combination for us.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Yesterday at 1:56 PM
  • #300
Cally Fedora said:
There is no plan B. Frasers know that. They also know they don’t need football there as it makes no cash for them. It’s not a good combination for us.
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So what happens to it if there’s no football? In about 5 years time there’s gonna be 2 40,000+ capacity stadiums with much better facilities than the CBS, much better transport links and effectively more money behind them.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Yesterday at 1:59 PM
  • #301
Cally Fedora said:
There is no plan B. Frasers know that. They also know they don’t need football there as it makes no cash for them. It’s not a good combination for us.
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Would love to know what Frasers plans are for the bowl in that situation considering they couldn’t get any tours in after the exit fascio last time.

Sounds like both sides posturing to an extent
 

Hobo

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  • Yesterday at 2:09 PM
  • #302
Calista said:
"Sky Blues urged by fans to build radical new stadium, and the name will take your breath away…"
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Perhaps we could do that one SISU mocked up that looked like a toilet seat.

The Domestos Butts Park Arena.
 

chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 2:14 PM
  • #303
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Would love to know what Frasers plans are for the bowl in that situation considering they couldn’t get any tours in after the exit fascio last time.

Sounds like both sides posturing to an extent
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I'm led to believe there are gigs booked for the stadium bowl next summer. I got told 'you'll love who is at the Ricoh next summer' which could either be someone I actually like or someone I hate
 

SBAndy

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  • Yesterday at 2:17 PM
  • #304
Warwickhunt said:
I agree with you! But I don't know what they consider how much rent they want off CCFC, is it currently about £1.2 million a year? Or would they be trying to get CCFC rent to be able to cover the current operating loss of the Stadium. If it gets too high then DK would have to think of alternatives
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It’s one of the things that, to me, really didn’t make sense regarding Fraser’s picking up the stadium. The ROI is likely to be paltry.
 

Nick

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  • Yesterday at 2:19 PM
  • #305
Cally Fedora said:
There is no plan B. Frasers know that. They also know they don’t need football there as it makes no cash for them. It’s not a good combination for us.
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Of course it makes cash for the stadium
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Yesterday at 2:27 PM
  • #306
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
So what happens to it if there’s no football? In about 5 years time there’s gonna be 2 40,000+ capacity stadiums with much better facilities than the CBS, much better transport links and effectively more money behind them.
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Exactly this.

The CBS will be left behind by the facilities in Birmingham.
 
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Offhegoes

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  • Yesterday at 2:31 PM
  • #307
King is spinning this out to get a better deal with Frasers. We know he's a tough negotiator, and has done a good job for us so far (The Vik adds on, hiring Frank, the matchday experience. He'll know what he's doing.
 
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wingy

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  • Yesterday at 2:32 PM
  • #308
Warwickhunt said:
I agree with you! But I don't know what they consider how much rent they want off CCFC, is it currently about £1.2 million a year? Or would they be trying to get CCFC rent to be able to cover the current operating loss of the Stadium. If it gets too high then DK would have to think of alternatives
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Well we do have sole use of the place, that seems to have a cost associated.
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 3:23 PM
  • #309
SBT said:
I’m not here to personally defend every story that the BBC publish about us, but you’re right that stories should include proper context, of course.

As I say, for a comparatively niche beat like Coventry City Football Club, I’m glad that we get journalists covering us at all, and the bar for newsworthiness is probably pretty low. This article about the stadium today pretty clearly meets it.
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Describing CCFC as comparatively niche and any journalist covering us should make us grateful is a very odd take

35 years in the top flight
An innovator under Jimmy Hill
One of the best known names in the country now in charge

Bizarre
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 3:26 PM
  • #310
Grendel said:
Describing CCFC as comparatively niche and any journalist covering us should make us grateful is a very odd take

35 years in the top flight
An innovator under Jimmy Hill
One of the best known names in the country now in charge

Bizarre
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How many journalists do we have covering us full time?
 
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Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 3:31 PM
  • #311
SBT said:
How many journalists do we have covering us full time?
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And you accuse me of hanging on your every word.

It’s your second post of the day I think!

Where did I say a journalist covers is full time. The face you think we are a niche football club that we should be grateful a dog shit journalist says anything about us … well what a massive impression you have of the club you claim to support
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 3:38 PM
  • #312
I mean this is pretty ridiculous posturing on King's part that he'd be best advised to step back from, unless he really does have a serious wad of investment lined up to actually build a 40k stadium elsewhere in the city.

Dare I say it's not a very 'grown up' way of doing things.
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 3:38 PM
  • #313
Grendel said:
And you accuse me of hanging on your every word.

It’s your second post of the day I think!

Where did I say a journalist covers is full time. The face you think we are a niche football club that we should be grateful a dog shit journalist says anything about us … well what a massive impression you have of the club you claim to support
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It’s the second time you’ve quoted me already today, but thanks for keeping count!

It’s a serious question….we all love the club, but we’re still a second-tier side and like most other Championship teams we’re not exactly drowning in media coverage. People like yourself love to sneer about the occasional coverage from people like Gilbert, but take that away and what are you actually left with? Sky Blues Extra?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 3:40 PM
  • #314
SBT said:
It’s the second time you’ve quoted me already today, but thanks for keeping count!

It’s a serious question….we all love the club, but we’re still a second-tier side and like most other Championship teams we’re not exactly drowning in media coverage. People like yourself love to sneer about the occasional coverage from people like Gilbert, but take that away and what are you actually left with? Sky Blues Extra?
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We've clearly had more national coverage in recent years and even more so since Lampard's appointment to be fair.
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 3:42 PM
  • #315
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We've clearly had more national coverage in recent years and even more so since Lampard's appointment to be fair.
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I agree!
 
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