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Islamist ex usa army attacking teenagers in a truck

Not sure he’d be on any list to be deported as an ex serviceman

Scary times

Rip to the innocents murdered for a medieval extremism
 
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Honestly kind of bizarre that Islamic State is still a thing.
 

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do they still think its linked to the Trump Tower one?

Wasbt that fireworks? Has it been confirmed terrorism? Using a CyberTruck at Trump Towers is a bit on the nose.
 

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Both EVs both rented on Turo, AirBnB get an honourable mention.

The Trump Tower one was weird, the CyberTruck basically contained the explosives and vented them vertically. But someone with his background you would have thought could have known how to make a much bigger bang.
 

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Wasbt that fireworks? Has it been confirmed terrorism? Using a CyberTruck at Trump Towers is a bit on the nose.

Didn't it kill the person inside it and it was a rental from the same place as the one that drove into the crowd? (I could be wrong). I thought it was explosives too.
 
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Didn't it kill the person inside it and it was a rental from the same place as the one that drove into the crowd? (I could be wrong). I thought it was explosives too.

I dunno. Twitter has gone to shit for this stuff. Wasn’t too long ago I could find all the details that weren’t in the press. Now it’s just garbage. Really hard to work out what’s actually known.
 

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Both EVs both rented on Turo, AirBnB get an honourable mention.

The Trump Tower one was weird, the CyberTruck basically contained the explosives and vented them vertically. But someone with his background you would have thought could have known how to make a much bigger bang.
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Didn't it kill the person inside it and it was a rental from the same place as the one that drove into the crowd? (I could be wrong). I thought it was explosives too.

So the official story is it was fireworks and canisters of petrol. I was going off an eye witness who said big fireworks. But that would make more sense. Also saying no links to ISIS found, which is weird as the NO one had the flag attached and normally they take credit.
 

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I dunno. Twitter has gone to shit for this stuff. Wasn’t too long ago I could find all the details that weren’t in the press. Now it’s just garbage. Really hard to work out what’s actually known.

I havent looked on there, pointless trying to.

It looks as if the car was from the same rental as the other one and was a suicide bombing (although no idea if it was an actual bomb or not)

I think the only link was the timing and the rental company. Interestingly this says it was a service US army bloke too - Tesla Cybertruck explosion outside Trump Hotel in Las Vegas investigated as possible act of terrorism

Does sound terror related but maybe not ISIS, rocking up with a Tesla full of explosive shit and killing yourself outside trump towers doesn't sound too accidental.
 

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I havent looked on there, pointless trying to.

It looks as if the car was from the same rental as the other one and was a suicide bombing (although no idea if it was an actual bomb or not)

I think the only link was the timing and the rental company. Interestingly this says it was a service US army bloke too - Tesla Cybertruck explosion outside Trump Hotel in Las Vegas investigated as possible act of terrorism

Does sound terror related but maybe not ISIS, rocking up with a Tesla full of explosive shit and killing yourself outside trump towers doesn't sound too accidental.

Nah exactly. It’s definitely intentional, maybe we’re just reading too much into the choices but seems very specifically related to Trump and Musk more than a general “fuck the west” but again maybe. There’s not much logic to this stuff.
 

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Islamist ex usa army attacking teenagers in a truck

Not sure he’d be on any list to be deported as an ex serviceman

Scary times

Rip to the innocents murdered for a medieval extremism
This is true scary part isn't it

Ex US army (New Orleans) / born and bred here (Southport)

When it's people who have well integrated, but then turned, that is a huge, huge problem and so much more difficult to detect. 😢
 

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This is true scary part isn't it

Ex US army (New Orleans) / born and bred here (Southport)

When it's people who have well integrated, but then turned, that is a huge, huge problem and so much more difficult to detect. 😢
Yep which is why reform can kiss my arse
You can’t deport 52 year old men who’ve served their country. What do you do?
 
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This is true scary part isn't it

Ex US army (New Orleans) / born and bred here (Southport)

When it's people who have well integrated, but then turned, that is a huge, huge problem and so much more difficult to detect. 😢

new orelans? It was Isis. Why lie?

as for Southport, biggest coverup about who and why

Why do the media constantly use a pic of him when he was 10? Why?
 
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new orelans? It was Isis. Why lie?

as for Southport, biggest coverup about who and why

Why do the media constantly use a pic of him when he was 10? Why?
He did have an isis flag gimoc but he was also an ex us army serviceman and was born and bred in the USA and lived in Texas

The Southport stuff blows my mind that intelligent people think there’s a cover up because the press only had a picture from school until the appearance in court

I don’t get the cover up ? You’re believing social media rumours cause they suit your opinion

He committed a heinous crime - makes no difference to me if he’s a Brit (which he was and is) or someone from abroad. His actions were abhorrent and seemingly motivated by a recent conversion to Islam or are you on of these that thinks this wouldn’t have come out if it wasn’t for fuckin Richard tryce
 

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People can be born in a country and turn out to be Islamic terrorists.

The Southport one, people who knew him and went to school with him said from day one he was following Islam. The "social media rumours" turned out to be true. I think there's still plenty more to be known about that one.
 
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People can be born in a country and turn out to be Islamic terrorists.

The Southport one, people who knew him and went to school with him said from day one he was following Islam. The "social media rumours" turned out to be true. I think there's still plenty more to be known about that one.
Of course they can absolutely
 

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You can’t deport 52 year old men who’ve served their country. What do you do?

You crack down hard on anybody who is pushing that sort of rhetoric. Deport them if possible, sentence them, kill them for all I care. I mean the people trying to do the brainwashing.

There's plenty of videos of mosques in the UK calling for violence. (Not every mosque, just as a disclaimer). (Another one, not just mosques or Islam but in general).

Find out who that bloke has been speaking to, who got into his head, who has been pushing it. Give them a bullet.
 
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You crack down hard on anybody who is pushing that sort of rhetoric. Deport them if possible, sentence them, kill them for all I care. I mean the people trying to do the brainwashing.

There's plenty of videos of mosques in the UK calling for violence. (Not every mosque, just as a disclaimer). (Another one, not just mosques or Islam but in general).

Find out who that bloke has been speaking to, who got into his head, who has been pushing it. Give them a bullet.
And things we can do
 

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new orelans? It was Isis. Why lie?

as for Southport, biggest coverup about who and why

Why do the media constantly use a pic of him when he was 10? Why?
Lie?

He used to be in the US army. He was a US army veteran.

That was my point. It's much more scary when the perpetrators were previously integrated and the NO guy actually fought for the USA.
 
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Lie?

He used to be in the US army. He was a US army veteran.

That was my point. It's much more scary when the perpetrators were previously integrated and the NO guy actually fought for the USA.

Radicalises quite a few, war. There was the US Army guy I think that set himself on fire about Gaza recently too.
 

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The truly scary thing is you can’t stop this shit without serious freedom of speech crackdowns. All information gatekeeping has been thrown out and whether it’s GIMOC thinking the world is run by lizards or ISIS thinking they’re helping Muslims with terror attacks people are radicalising themselves from their phones. The standard information diet for most on all sides is a mix of outlandish cartoon characters of the other side or overly extreme rhetoric designed to get clicks and outrage.

But the very people who want this stopped the most would be most effected by such laws so they’re hardline freedom of speech
 

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Nah exactly. It’s definitely intentional, maybe we’re just reading too much into the choices but seems very specifically related to Trump and Musk more than a general “fuck the west” but again maybe. There’s not much logic to this stuff.
According to police the Vegas suicide bomber was a fan of Trump, Musk and RFK Jr and wanted to blow himself to draw attention to various issues. Although the police don’t want to class it as terrorism (hmm).

 
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To steel man, it wasn’t an attack so much as an elaborate suicide reading that. He just wanted people to notice.
It wasn’t an elaborate suicide, he shot himself in the head!
 

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Id say blowing up a cybertruck with fireworks in is pretty elaborate. Point is it doesn’t look like he was trying to kill anyone, just wanted his Daddies to notice him.
“Doesn’t look like he was trying to kill anyone” - he loaded a car with explosives primed to detonate in a pedestrianised area after he’d killed himself, injuring seven people.

I wonder why people are being so charitable to this guy’s motives…..what a mystery.
 

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“Doesn’t look like he was trying to kill anyone” - he loaded a car with explosives primed to detonate in a pedestrianised area after he’d killed himself, injuring seven people.

I wonder why people are being so charitable to this guy’s motives…..what a mystery.

I mean I literally said I was steel manning him. But sure maybe the FBI is just full of racists who want to cover it up?
 

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