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SBbucks

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Is there a reason why LPG never took off in the UK? I pay €20 to do something like 300km in an Audi A3.

I’m guessing because of the very limited LPG infrastructure and very little support from the manufacturers. I think most LPG vehicles in the UK during its brief popularity in the 90s were conversions rather than off the shelf.
 

PVA

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Just fuelled up and now going home

Yeah but I got to watch Trailer Park Boys.

But that was only because my home charger isn't installed yet. If it was I'd spend 10 seconds plugging it in and it would cost me about 3 quid or something.
 

Mcbean

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Price of secondhand EVs bombing - causing lease /pcp deals some real issues - fortunately if you have a fixed buyback the lease companies will be taking a hit - however new agreements will likely spike in price within a few months
 

SBAndy

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Price of secondhand EVs bombing - causing lease /pcp deals some real issues - fortunately if you have a fixed buyback the lease companies will be taking a hit - however new agreements will likely spike in price within a few months

Tesla via work scheme has gone from £520/mth about 2 months ago to knocking on for £700/mth.
 

Mcbean

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Tesla via work scheme has gone from £520/mth about 2 months ago to knocking on for £700/mth.
Mmm I thought Tesla would have retained more than others because of the range but there again the price of a new battery is in the 10 of thousands apparently
 

PVA

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Tesla via work scheme has gone from £520/mth about 2 months ago to knocking on for £700/mth.

Not sure which specific model you’re referring to there but you can get them a lot less than that direct from Tesla
 

Boicey

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Mmm I thought Tesla would have retained more than others because of the range but there again the price of a new battery is in the 10 of thousands apparently
Batteries last 300,00+ miles, so many myths and nonsense about.
Most UK EV's have a minimum 8 year, 100,000 mile battery warranty. The trend increasing, MG Australia offer 10 years, 150,000 miles, MG Thailand unlimited mileage, lifetime warranty.
 

wingy

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Batteries last 300,00+ miles, so many myths and nonsense about.
Most UK EV's have a minimum 8 year, 100,000 mile battery warranty. The trend increasing, MG Australia offer 10 years, 150,000 miles, MG Thailand unlimited mileage, lifetime warranty.
How much do you think when they reach those milealages, do you think everyone will stick to manufacturers guidelines during their ownership?
 

SBbucks

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Mmm I thought Tesla would have retained more than others because of the range but there again the price of a new battery is in the 10 of thousands apparently

I dislike Tesla/Musk more than most (so am definitely not an advocate for them) but how many Teslas are you aware of that have had to have new batteries?
 

duffer

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Lots of the so called safety kit is a bit ott. My car keeps bleeping to remind me that the car I know is on the inside lane to my left is, in fact, on the inside lane to my left. Typically when exiting a roundabout in to a dual carriageway. It startles me tbh, and I have to look about to see if it’s something else I haven’t spotted hence diverting my attention from the manoeuvre I’m half way through raising potential for an accident. Lane assist comes in even when indicating left to return to the left hand lane after completing an overtake. Why? This is the only car with the feature that has done that.

All part of the process of softening everyone up for autopilot driving systems.

God yes, I hate all of that stuff. The only thing I'd have is the automatic braking that kicks in if you're about to ram someone, and cruise control for keeping your speed down through the roadworks. That's it.

I can't bear the automatic handbrake on our Citroen, it either stays on when you don't need it, or goes off when you don't expect it. It's already cost me a few bob in an embarrassing roll down the drive and into the house, when I wasn't even in the car! Reversing downhill is stupidly dangerous.

Ratchety, clicky things for me please. Proper knobs and dials and none of your touchscreen rubbish, thank you. Harumph.

And if I'm moving into your lane with my old banger, honk! 😄
 

MalcSB

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God yes, I hate all of that stuff. The only thing I'd have is the automatic braking that kicks in if you're about to ram someone, and cruise control for keeping your speed down through the roadworks. That's it.

I can't bear the automatic handbrake on our Citroen, it either stays on when you don't need it, or goes off when you don't expect it. It's already cost me a few bob in an embarrassing roll down the drive and into the house, when I wasn't even in the car! Reversing downhill is stupidly dangerous.

Ratchety, clicky things for me please. Proper knobs and dials and none of your touchscreen rubbish, thank you. Harumph.

And if I'm moving into your lane with my old banger, honk! 😄
Ashley Neal, a driving instructor with a YouTube channel, likened Tesla Autopilot to a really bad driver with incredible reflexes. Can’t be good for the peace of mind.
 

PVA

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Just had a look on Autotrader and there's loads of Teslas on there with over 100k miles. So it would seem the battery life is indeed pretty good and doesn't explode and need replacing once you hit 100k.

There's risks involved if you buy a diesel car with 80k on the clock, so I really I don't see what the difference is and all this scaremongering about batteries needing to be replaced seems to be exactly that - scaremongering.
 

wingy

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I think it's generally considered to be around 10% less after 10 years.

Which is pretty decent I'd say.
You just need to wait for the apocalypse then use it as a power bank and buy a new one,or get the horse out of the stable's!
 

shmmeee

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Batteries last 300,00+ miles, so many myths and nonsense about.
Most UK EV's have a minimum 8 year, 100,000 mile battery warranty. The trend increasing, MG Australia offer 10 years, 150,000 miles, MG Thailand unlimited mileage, lifetime warranty.

Ive seen people refurb Tesla batteries at 500k miles.

Ashley Neal, a driving instructor with a YouTube channel, likened Tesla Autopilot to a really bad driver with incredible reflexes. Can’t be good for the peace of mind.

Latest one is completely different apparently. Still not actual self driving but very smooth apparently compared to previous ones.
 

SBAndy

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Not sure which specific model you’re referring to there but you can get them a lot less than that direct from Tesla

Was the Model Y and that was the net salary deduction so gross cost was billed a lot higher.

Surely they can’t change their mind once you’ve signed the deal? Seems a proper rip off.

It won’t be that happening, I’ve been keeping track of the offering as was initially planning to change cars in May/June. Unlikely to happen now, as it goes but will see what happens in the meantime.
 

lewys33

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Going to take a look at a BYD dolphin in the next week for the wife. PCP deals are good, better than most out there. Just got to ignore the front end looks and what BYD stands for … then we will be sweet!

The disco will serve as the main family wagon so electric makes perfect sense.
 

SBT

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Also, what’s the best family/midsize SUV to buy? As someone who hasn’t owned a car since 2006.
 

Grendel

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Also, what’s the best family/midsize SUV to buy? As someone who hasn’t owned a car since 2006.

You strike me as a Kia Ray type of guy
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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I've always done bangernomics and fully intend to continue for as long as I can. I firmly believe it's cheaper, no more hassle than owning a new car and I get to change cars fairly frequently which suits me as I enjoy researching and buying cars more than I do driving them TBH.

My current wagon is a 2008 Citroen C5 estate with the 2.0 turbodiesel and a manual box. I bought it from an older couple who were giving up driving, it had been scrupulously looked after, relatively low miles and was top of the range in its day so still has a reasonable spec by today's standards.

I paid £1000 for the car with 11 months MOT on it, immediately had to shell out for a replacement windscreen (on the insurance) a window regulator which I bought off eBay and fitted myself, and a major service including topping up the onboard ELOYS tank (fluid that cleans the DPF). I also had it remapped which has taken the power up to 190bhh ish.

It then needed 2 tyres, a CV boot and a replacement seatbelt buckle (kids broke it 🙄) ahead of the MOT this year, which it passed with no advisories. I reckon I've spent maybe £1700 total, including the purchase, on the car in just over a year of trouble free motoring. It returns 50 ish mpg in mixed driving and close to 70mpg on a long run. It's also the most comfortable car I've ever owned and while not a rocketship, with almost 200 bhp on tap she can hike up her petticoats and sprint when she needs to, surprised one or two more exotic machines away from the lights. Swallows all the kids crap and the dog with ease, tows our trailer like it's not even there and costs absolutely peanuts to insure.

She's no supermodel admittedly but as old estates go I don't think she's a bad looker either.

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Kneeza

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I've always done bangernomics and fully intend to continue for as long as I can. I firmly believe it's cheaper, no more hassle than owning a new car and I get to change cars fairly frequently which suits me as I enjoy researching and buying cars more than I do driving them TBH.

My current wagon is a 2008 Citroen C5 estate with the 2.0 turbodiesel and a manual box. I bought it from an older couple who were giving up driving, it had been scrupulously looked after, relatively low miles and was top of the range in its day so still has a reasonable spec by today's standards.

I paid £1000 for the car with 11 months MOT on it, immediately had to shell out for a replacement windscreen (on the insurance) a window regulator which I bought off eBay and fitted myself, and a major service including topping up the onboard ELOYS tank (fluid that cleans the DPF). I also had it remapped which has taken the power up to 190bhh ish.

It then needed 2 tyres, a CV boot and a replacement seatbelt buckle (kids broke it 🙄) ahead of the MOT this year, which it passed with no advisories. I reckon I've spent maybe £1700 total, including the purchase, on the car in just over a year of trouble free motoring. It returns 50 ish mpg in mixed driving and close to 70mpg on a long run. It's also the most comfortable car I've ever owned and while not a rocketship, with almost 200 bhp on tap she can hike up her petticoats and sprint when she needs to, surprised one or two more exotic machines away from the lights. Swallows all the kids crap and the dog with ease, tows our trailer like it's not even there and costs absolutely peanuts to insure.

She's no supermodel admittedly but as old estates go I don't think she's a bad looker either.

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I was always a fan of fluid Citroens, and had a few BXs (hatches and an estate).
Great cars that cost peanuts to buy and run, although the non-turbo diesel wagon was sloth-like. However, it took four of us to the Rhine and Mosel, and returned loaded to the gunwhales with wine and beer, completely level, without missing a beat.
Still prefer the looks of the Xantia to the C5, but, as you say, the C5 wagon isn't bad looking.
 

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