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SBbucks

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  • Dec 9, 2024
  • #246
Sick Boy said:
Is there a reason why LPG never took off in the UK? I pay €20 to do something like 300km in an Audi A3.
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I’m guessing because of the very limited LPG infrastructure and very little support from the manufacturers. I think most LPG vehicles in the UK during its brief popularity in the 90s were conversions rather than off the shelf.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 9, 2024
  • #247
Grendel said:
Just fuelled up and now going home
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Yeah but I got to watch Trailer Park Boys.

But that was only because my home charger isn't installed yet. If it was I'd spend 10 seconds plugging it in and it would cost me about 3 quid or something.
 

Mcbean

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #248
Price of secondhand EVs bombing - causing lease /pcp deals some real issues - fortunately if you have a fixed buyback the lease companies will be taking a hit - however new agreements will likely spike in price within a few months
 

SBAndy

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #249
Mcbean said:
Price of secondhand EVs bombing - causing lease /pcp deals some real issues - fortunately if you have a fixed buyback the lease companies will be taking a hit - however new agreements will likely spike in price within a few months
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Tesla via work scheme has gone from £520/mth about 2 months ago to knocking on for £700/mth.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #250
SBAndy said:
Tesla via work scheme has gone from £520/mth about 2 months ago to knocking on for £700/mth.
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Mmm I thought Tesla would have retained more than others because of the range but there again the price of a new battery is in the 10 of thousands apparently
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #251
SBAndy said:
Tesla via work scheme has gone from £520/mth about 2 months ago to knocking on for £700/mth.
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Guess they will be buying Chinese or £20 grand European offerings then?
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #252
SBAndy said:
Tesla via work scheme has gone from £520/mth about 2 months ago to knocking on for £700/mth.
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Not sure which specific model you’re referring to there but you can get them a lot less than that direct from Tesla
 

Boicey

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #253
Mcbean said:
Mmm I thought Tesla would have retained more than others because of the range but there again the price of a new battery is in the 10 of thousands apparently
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Batteries last 300,00+ miles, so many myths and nonsense about.
Most UK EV's have a minimum 8 year, 100,000 mile battery warranty. The trend increasing, MG Australia offer 10 years, 150,000 miles, MG Thailand unlimited mileage, lifetime warranty.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #254
Boicey said:
Batteries last 300,00+ miles, so many myths and nonsense about.
Most UK EV's have a minimum 8 year, 100,000 mile battery warranty. The trend increasing, MG Australia offer 10 years, 150,000 miles, MG Thailand unlimited mileage, lifetime warranty.
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How much do you think when they reach those milealages, do you think everyone will stick to manufacturers guidelines during their ownership?
 
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SBbucks

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #255
Mcbean said:
Mmm I thought Tesla would have retained more than others because of the range but there again the price of a new battery is in the 10 of thousands apparently
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I dislike Tesla/Musk more than most (so am definitely not an advocate for them) but how many Teslas are you aware of that have had to have new batteries?
 

duffer

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #256
MalcSB said:
Lots of the so called safety kit is a bit ott. My car keeps bleeping to remind me that the car I know is on the inside lane to my left is, in fact, on the inside lane to my left. Typically when exiting a roundabout in to a dual carriageway. It startles me tbh, and I have to look about to see if it’s something else I haven’t spotted hence diverting my attention from the manoeuvre I’m half way through raising potential for an accident. Lane assist comes in even when indicating left to return to the left hand lane after completing an overtake. Why? This is the only car with the feature that has done that.

All part of the process of softening everyone up for autopilot driving systems.
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God yes, I hate all of that stuff. The only thing I'd have is the automatic braking that kicks in if you're about to ram someone, and cruise control for keeping your speed down through the roadworks. That's it.

I can't bear the automatic handbrake on our Citroen, it either stays on when you don't need it, or goes off when you don't expect it. It's already cost me a few bob in an embarrassing roll down the drive and into the house, when I wasn't even in the car! Reversing downhill is stupidly dangerous.

Ratchety, clicky things for me please. Proper knobs and dials and none of your touchscreen rubbish, thank you. Harumph.

And if I'm moving into your lane with my old banger, honk!
 
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MalcSB

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #257
duffer said:
God yes, I hate all of that stuff. The only thing I'd have is the automatic braking that kicks in if you're about to ram someone, and cruise control for keeping your speed down through the roadworks. That's it.

I can't bear the automatic handbrake on our Citroen, it either stays on when you don't need it, or goes off when you don't expect it. It's already cost me a few bob in an embarrassing roll down the drive and into the house, when I wasn't even in the car! Reversing downhill is stupidly dangerous.

Ratchety, clicky things for me please. Proper knobs and dials and none of your touchscreen rubbish, thank you. Harumph.

And if I'm moving into your lane with my old banger, honk!
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Ashley Neal, a driving instructor with a YouTube channel, likened Tesla Autopilot to a really bad driver with incredible reflexes. Can’t be good for the peace of mind.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #258
Just had a look on Autotrader and there's loads of Teslas on there with over 100k miles. So it would seem the battery life is indeed pretty good and doesn't explode and need replacing once you hit 100k.

There's risks involved if you buy a diesel car with 80k on the clock, so I really I don't see what the difference is and all this scaremongering about batteries needing to be replaced seems to be exactly that - scaremongering.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #259
i thought the batteries could'nt hold as much the older they get ?
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #260
Mcbean said:
i thought the batteries could'nt hold as much the older they get ?
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I think it's generally considered to be around 10% less after 10 years.

Which is pretty decent I'd say.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #261
PVA said:
I think it's generally considered to be around 10% less after 10 years.

Which is pretty decent I'd say.
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You just need to wait for the apocalypse then use it as a power bank and buy a new one,or get the horse out of the stable's!
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #262
Boicey said:
Batteries last 300,00+ miles, so many myths and nonsense about.
Most UK EV's have a minimum 8 year, 100,000 mile battery warranty. The trend increasing, MG Australia offer 10 years, 150,000 miles, MG Thailand unlimited mileage, lifetime warranty.
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Ive seen people refurb Tesla batteries at 500k miles.

MalcSB said:
Ashley Neal, a driving instructor with a YouTube channel, likened Tesla Autopilot to a really bad driver with incredible reflexes. Can’t be good for the peace of mind.
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Latest one is completely different apparently. Still not actual self driving but very smooth apparently compared to previous ones.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #263
SBAndy said:
Tesla via work scheme has gone from £520/mth about 2 months ago to knocking on for £700/mth.
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Our work scheme the prices are ridiculous, even a small EV with a limited range was £600+ per month.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #264
fernandopartridge said:
Our work scheme the prices are ridiculous, even a small EV with a limited range was £600+ per month.
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It’s because of the depreciation, residual values sinking continually.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #265
MalcSB said:
It’s because of the depreciation, residual values sinking continually.
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Surely they can’t change their mind once you’ve signed the deal? Seems a proper rip off.
 

SBAndy

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #266
PVA said:
Not sure which specific model you’re referring to there but you can get them a lot less than that direct from Tesla
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Was the Model Y and that was the net salary deduction so gross cost was billed a lot higher.

shmmeee said:
Surely they can’t change their mind once you’ve signed the deal? Seems a proper rip off.
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It won’t be that happening, I’ve been keeping track of the offering as was initially planning to change cars in May/June. Unlikely to happen now, as it goes but will see what happens in the meantime.
 

lewys33

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #267
Going to take a look at a BYD dolphin in the next week for the wife. PCP deals are good, better than most out there. Just got to ignore the front end looks and what BYD stands for … then we will be sweet!

The disco will serve as the main family wagon so electric makes perfect sense.
 
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