Netflix - Making a murderer (2 Viewers)

chiefdave · Nov 17, 2016

Otis said:
Hope it doesn't end up like Lost and they've been dead the whole time and merely living in limbo.

Lost has just turned up on Now TV. Not sure if its worth rewatching or not.

Otis · Dec 9, 2017

Absolutely bloody unbelievable. Words fail me. Dassey's conviction upheld.

Making a Murderer: Court upholds Brendan Dassey conviction - Court backs Making a Murderer confession

Marty · Dec 9, 2017

It is an absolute joke, I couldn't believe what I was watching when they were getting the confession out of him, and even worse it held up in court.

They basically just kept telling him to change his story until he got it right.

Otis · Dec 9, 2017

Marty said:
It is an absolute joke, I couldn't believe what I was watching when they were getting the confession out of him, and even worse it held up in court.

They basically just kept telling him to change his story until he got it right.

It's as clear a case of coercion you could ever get. A total and complete fix up.

How any judge could uphold that conviction based on that confession is totally beyond belief.

stupot07 · Dec 9, 2017

The US justice system is a joke. That was a shocking piece of coerced confession, and you watched the Confession Tapes on Netflix it seems to be standard police procedure.

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Nick · Dec 9, 2017

You would have thought anything without a lawyer in the room wouldn't have been accepted anyway with adults, from a child with learning difficulties you would think it would need to be even more watertight.

The americans are dicks though.

chiefdave · Dec 9, 2017

Unbelievable. I can't see how anyone can watch the police interviews and be happy the conviction is safe.

Nick · Oct 19, 2018

Apparently a second series starts today? assume it will be about the younger one trying to be released that was in the news.

chiefdave · Oct 19, 2018

Unbelievable that they're still locked up.

Otis · Oct 19, 2018

chiefdave said:
Unbelievable that they're still locked up.

Yup.

There was so much doubt cast upon the convictions from this documentary.

Shows the American justice system to be an ass that they declared the convictions safe.

WhaleOilBeefHooked · Oct 19, 2018

I thought it was all tenuous.... Until the evidence with the blood (I think) in the box which had clearly been opened, used, and put back.

Otis · Oct 19, 2018

Hmm, not so sure.

Can't remember a lot of it, but didn't they only find blood after the 6th search and weeks later? And the 'confession' of Dassey was outrageous and led by pure coercion.

That confession should have been thrown out of court.

Loads wrong from what I can recall.

block16 · Oct 20, 2018

Yanks

Marty · Oct 20, 2018

Otis said:
Hmm, not so sure.

Can't remember a lot of it, but didn't they only find blood after the 6th search and weeks later? And the 'confession' of Dassey was outrageous and led by pure coercion.

That confession should have been thrown out of court.

Loads wrong from what I can recall.

It was searched a number of times (can't remember the figure) by an outside police force, the local police force (the one who he sued) then searched it and unsurprisingly found all sorts. Definitely been stitched up.

Otis · Oct 21, 2018

Watching part two now.

They have reshown some of the Dassey confession. Just reminded me how unbelievable that truly was.

Should never have been accepted into evidence. The poor lad hasn't got a clue what he is saying, clearly knows nothing and they falsely give him the impression that he can go home if he tells them what they need to know and want him to say.

Otis · Oct 21, 2018

Now on episode 4 and the constant reminders have me pinching myself to just how very wrong this whole thing is. The justice system of the US is an ass for sure.

If this was a fictional TV series no-one would believe it or accept it.

Marty · Oct 21, 2018

Otis said:
Now on episode 4 and the constant reminders have me pinching myself to just how very wrong this whole thing is. The justice system of the US is an ass for sure.

If this was a fictional TV series no-one would believe it or accept it.

Where are you watching it?

Otis · Oct 22, 2018

Marty said:
Where are you watching it?

On the sofa.

Netflix! Released on Friday. All episodes.

ccfcrob · Oct 22, 2018

Finished Series 2 yesterday. Absolutely love Zellner, she is terrifying. How they were convicted in the first place was a joke. If this was a drama it would be comical.

Otis · Oct 22, 2018

ccfcrob said:
Finished Series 2 yesterday. Absolutely love Zellner, she is terrifying. How they were convicted in the first place was a joke. If this was a drama it would be comical.

No-one would buy it. Not for a single second.

Even for the thickest bloke on the planet you can see Brendan Dassey's confusion was coached and coerced and the poor lad was just saying anything they wanted him to say.

He should have been released in 2015 when everyone thought he he was going to be released and the district judge said his testimony could not be relied on.

The whole thing is outrageous.

I do fancy Brendan Dassey's lawyer though (the female in case you are wondering).

Otis · Oct 22, 2018

Almost like the perfect woman for me. She has eyes and teeth and is cute and has the girl next door look about her.

Smart and intelligent too. What's not to like?

ccfcrob · Oct 22, 2018

Otis said:
Almost like the perfect woman for me. She has eyes and teeth and is cute and has the girl next door look about her.

Smart and intelligent too. What's not to like?

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She walks with her toes pointing out, also kitten heels are a no no for me. So out of season

chiefdave · Oct 22, 2018

Otis said:
She has eyes and teeth

Are those your only requirements?!

Otis · Oct 22, 2018

chiefdave said:
Are those your only requirements?!

What can I say, I am not a fussy man.

Otis · Oct 22, 2018

ccfcrob said:
She walks with her toes pointing out, also kitten heels are a no no for me. So out of season

What the hell are kitten heels?

ccfcrob · Oct 22, 2018

Otis said:
What the hell are kitten heels?

Heels that are tiny, not stilettos but no quite flats. If you need me I will be in Milan this week sorting out this winters collection.

Nick · Oct 25, 2018

Watching the one now about dassey conviction overturned. I know it might sound harsh but why was the atterney saying he would give the family of the victim input on what happens?

How does that work? Obviously an awful situation for them but could they give? Surely the input should be the letters of the law?

Nick · Oct 25, 2018

Avery the fanny magnet

Otis · Oct 25, 2018

Nick said:
Avery the fanny magnet

I think it was that nickname that was his downfall in his original court case.

Otis · Oct 26, 2018

Not as good as the first series, which had so much to cram in and I feel this second season could be so much shorter.

A lot of filling and padding of the Avery family and the Dassey family.

Think the key here is pulling apart what was wrong in the first trial and uncovering any new evidence.

Bit too much focus on the day to day life of the families back home.

Am now just coming up to episode 8.

Nick · Oct 27, 2018

Got a little bit bored of it, like you say it feels like in a couple of episodes they have just made 1 or 2 points but dragged it out.

The other thing about this is how widespread it is. In the first one unless I googled it Id have had no idea if they were guilty or not. Now we know they are both still locked up, if they got released we wouldn't have missed it as it would be everywhere.

Otis · Oct 27, 2018

Nick said:
Got a little bit bored of it, like you say it feels like in a couple of episodes they have just made 1 or 2 points but dragged it out.

The other thing about this is how widespread it is. In the first one unless I googled it Id have had no idea if they were guilty or not. Now we know they are both still locked up, if they got released we wouldn't have missed it as it would be everywhere.

Yeah, there was a bit of a cliffhanger feel to it last time, but like you say, if they were released now we would definitely know about it.

Just finished the whole thing last night. Still find it utterly ridiculous in regard to Brendan Dassey's 'safe' and 'non-coerced' confession.

16 and with a very low IQ, yet they led him to where they wanted to go with it.

Scandalous really.

Otis · Nov 1, 2018

The latest on the case.

he h://www.digitalspy.com/tv/making-a-murderer/feature/a869656/kathleen-zellner-now-updates-steven-avery-case/

Seemingly, according to that, they are hinting that someone on the prosecution team has admitted that Steven Avery is innocent.

The other thing I really picked up on is the fact that apparently, Bobby Dassey, Brendan's brother wasn't actually where he said he was at the time (gone hunting). Phone records show he was elsewhere.

fellatio_Martinez · Nov 1, 2018

He deserves life in prison for what he did to that cat.

#pussyjustice

Otis · Nov 1, 2018

McCavity?

Mild-Mannered Janitor · Nov 6, 2018

Just on episode 3 of the new series. How did the system allow Dassey to sit there and be coerced into that, they told him everything about the crime, he didn’t get anything right.

Off system of justice, both Avery and Dassey have issues but I’m not sure they did it but the show is very good at showing certain sides to the story.

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