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Transfer Rumour MVE to Wolfsburg (121 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 3:34 PM
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Ccfcisparks said:
Yes I did think £6m would be sort of the fee, anyone expecting double figures was going to be significantly disappointed. Its clear he was earmarked for sale, and as the window progressed our demands would drop.
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It’s taking the piss to be honest, compared to the types of fees you see flying around for certain others. Though the source is GIMOC, a lying piece of shit at the best of times.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 3:35 PM
  • #212
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s taking the piss to be honest, compared to the types of fees you see flying around for certain others. Though the source is GIMOC, a lying piece of shit at the best of times.
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Unfortunately he's a right back, and there isnt a huge demand for them.
 

Balli001

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  • Today at 3:35 PM
  • #213
Sky Blue Goblin said:
All over X now Gimoc, look what you’ve done
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Its what he wants. Like the hatters for craving attention.
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 3:36 PM
  • #214
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s taking the piss to be honest, compared to the types of fees you see flying around for certain others. Though the source is GIMOC, a lying piece of shit at the best of times.
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We’ve been hawking him around at £10m for ages with no takers, and ideas we were going to get eight figures were fanciful.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 3:36 PM
  • #215
Ccfcisparks said:
Unfortunately he's a right back, and there isnt a huge demand for them.
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Even so, 10 million is small change compared to other positions. 6 isn’t worth it.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 3:37 PM
  • #216
I'd be very surprised if it was as low as £6m. Not sure why we're believing GIMOC all of a sudden.

Think about it logically before taking posts at face value.

We paid nearly £4m. SC Heerenveen will retain a healthy sell-on fee, and when you include his contract during his time here that will leave basically nothing in terms of profit.

It wouldn't be worth agreeing to.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 3:37 PM
  • #217
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Even so, 10 million is small change compared to other positions. 6 isn’t worth it.
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I think Doug probably is banking on the sale, and would rather recoup £6m than nothing at all this summer.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Today at 3:38 PM
  • #218
SkyBlue_Adam said:
Considering we bought him for nearly 4m.. you couldn’t lie straight in bed
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It would still be 50% gross profit, not to be sniffed at all
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 3:38 PM
  • #219
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I'd be very surprised if it was as low as £6m. Not sure why we're believing GIMOC all of a sudden.

Think about it logically before taking posts at face value.

We paid nearly £4m. SC Heerenveen will retain a healthy sell-on fee, and when you include his contract during his time here that will leave basically nothing in terms of profit.

It wouldn't be worth agreeing to.
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Profit is irrelevant if we need the cashflow.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 3:40 PM
  • #220
fernandopartridge said:
It would still be 50% gross profit, not to be sniffed at all
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It wouldn't be if SC Heerenveen have a relatively high sell-on clause, which you'd imagine they probably do.
 

CCFC86

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  • Today at 3:40 PM
  • #221
Gutted to see MVE leave loved having him at the club. First time I seen him look not his usual self in the friendly at the weekend but that might be me just looking into things too much. Wonder if that’s the last time he wears sky blue. KKH is definitely an upgrade I’m just worried about injuries we don’t have the backup to replace and don’t get me started if we have a CB injured
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 3:41 PM
  • #222
CCFC86 said:
Gutted to see MVE leave loved having him at the club. First time I seen him look not his usual self in the friendly at the weekend but that might be me just looking into things too much. Wonder if that’s the last time he wears sky blue. KKH is definitely an upgrade I’m just worried about injuries we don’t have the backup to replace and don’t get me started if we have a CB injured
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Is he definitely an upgrade?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 3:42 PM
  • #223
Ccfcisparks said:
Profit is irrelevant if we need the cashflow.
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Who says the club desperately need to sell to support cashflow?

It's all speculative rubbish at this point.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 3:43 PM
  • #224
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Who says the club desperately need to sell to support cashflow?

It's all speculative rubbish at this point.
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Well it is speculative yes thats the point. But if the fee was £6m that would explain it. We quite clearly planned to sell MVE this window hence we signed KKH
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 3:49 PM
  • #225
Ccfcisparks said:
Well it is speculative yes thats the point. But if the fee was £6m that would explain it. We quite clearly planned to sell MVE this window hence we signed KKH
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I think it's been alluded to previously that the club clearly operates on a model of bringing in exciting young talent with a view to developing over a period of a couple of years and if we're not in the PL by then, DK will say we won't stand in their way if they wish to secure a move to a higher placed team either domestically or overseas and the right fee is tabled.

I suspect that's why MVE is being moved on. Not because of some kind of SISU-style fire sale.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 3:50 PM
  • #226
Ccfcisparks said:
I think Doug probably is banking on the sale, and would rather recoup £6m than nothing at all this summer.
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If those are the options then sure.
 
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Viktor17

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  • Today at 3:51 PM
  • #227
Some mental bed wetting going on - not enough money, fire sale, kings a fraud etc etc
 
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shepardo01

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  • Today at 3:52 PM
  • #228
CCFC86 said:
Gutted to see MVE leave loved having him at the club. First time I seen him look not his usual self in the friendly at the weekend but that might be me just looking into things too much. Wonder if that’s the last time he wears sky blue. KKH is definitely an upgrade I’m just worried about injuries we don’t have the backup to replace and don’t get me started if we have a CB injured
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KKH is not an upgrade.
 

shepardo01

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  • Today at 3:52 PM
  • #229
Ccfcisparks said:
Is he definitely an upgrade?
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No.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Today at 3:53 PM
  • #230
shepardo01 said:
KKH is not an upgrade.
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He isn't a downgrade either
 

Balli001

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  • Today at 3:53 PM
  • #231
shepardo01 said:
KKH is not an upgrade.
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In your opinion. I however disagree
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 3:54 PM
  • #232
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I think it's been alluded to previously that the club clearly operates on a model of bringing in exciting young talent with a view to developing over a period of a couple of years and if we're not in the PL by then, DK will say we won't stand in their way if they wish to secure a move to a higher placed team either domestically or overseas and the right fee is tabled.

I suspect that's why MVE is being moved on. Not because of some kind of SISU-style fire sale.
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No its not a fire sale, but a squad of our size isnt big enough to house 2 quality RB's. We cant afford that luxury.
 

shepardo01

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  • Today at 3:55 PM
  • #233
fernandopartridge said:
He isn't a downgrade either
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Why weren't Wolfsburg signing KKH then?
 

Balli001

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  • Today at 3:55 PM
  • #234
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Ccfcisparks said:
No its not a fire sale, but a squad of our size isnt big enough to house 2 quality RB's. We cant afford that luxury.
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Under previous regimes he would be sold cheaply with no replacement. We have had his replacement here for weeks and already prepared for him to leave and can then improve other areas of the team too
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 3:56 PM
  • #235
shepardo01 said:
KKH is not an upgrade.
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At the very least, he's a better defender. MVE is overall a better attacking threat but KKH is younger and has developed rapidly so we've not done badly at all.

Not quite the same comparison, but when Brentford replaced Watkins with Toney, it was a "downgrade" but everything worked out fine for them. It's a reality we have to deal with and even part way through last season many people felt that COH was better than Rudoni. That changed sharply after the new year.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Today at 3:56 PM
  • #236
 

Balli001

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  • Today at 3:57 PM
  • #237
shepardo01 said:
Why weren't Wolfsburg signing KKH then?
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Well Van Ewijk already played under their manager for a start. Feel free to have your opninion i just look forward to your grovelling when you realise your wrong
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Today at 3:57 PM
  • #238
shepardo01 said:
Why weren't Wolfsburg signing KKH then?
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Because they don't want to? I don't know. That Victor Gyokeres must be shite because nobody apart from Arsenal wanted to sign him.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 3:57 PM
  • #239
Ccfcisparks said:
No its not a fire sale, but a squad of our size isnt big enough to house 2 quality RB's. We cant afford that luxury.
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No, but I think we proactively looked to secure KKH and it was likely understood internally that MVE was off. Him signing on with a new agency was a huge indicator of this.

Also, that move was potentially fast tracked as it wouldn't shock me if we got him on a better deal if we bought him before Villa's PSR deadline.

DK has always spoken about bringing in players if the deal was right.
 
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shepardo01

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  • Today at 3:58 PM
  • #240
Balli001 said:
Well Van Ewijk already played under their manager for a start. Feel free to have your opninion i just look forward to your grovelling when you realise your wrong
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Ok
 

Balli001

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  • Today at 3:59 PM
  • #241
shepardo01 said:
Ok
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Standard forum debating skills at their finest there. Good to see
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 4:02 PM
  • #242
Balli001 said:
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Under previous regimes he would be sold cheaply with no replacement. We have had his replacement here for weeks and already prepared for him to leave and can then improve other areas of the team too
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Where have I said different?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 4:03 PM
  • #243
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
No, but I think we proactively looked to secure KKH and it was likely understood internally that MVE was off. Him signing on with a new agency was a huge indicator of this.

Also, that move was potentially fast tracked as it wouldn't shock me if we got him on a better deal if we bought him before Villa's PSR deadline.

DK has always spoken about bringing in players if the deal was right.
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Yes which is what I've said all along? We always had MVE earmarked to go, especially considering KKH came in.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Today at 4:04 PM
  • #244
6-8m is what MVE is worth. We’ve probably got lower end as teams have seen we’ve bought KKH. So we need another RB now. If, as seems to be the steer on here, they don’t fetch much it shouldn’t be an issue.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Today at 4:05 PM
  • #245
Key will be another RB to come in for back up and competition. Reckon it will be a Chelsea type loan
 
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