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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #526
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
I come on this forum for everything sky blue and have a bit of banter
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When are you going to start bantering then?
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #527
And another quote from their forum, relating to their financial accounts:-
“ This is an unmitigated disaster of a set of figures
It follows on from the record breaking loss of £10m in year to June 2018
If you ignore the £16m handout from CVC the loss has risen to £12m
Totally unsustainable
Rugby attendance is only a half full stadium and down with revenues from 2018
Wasps continue to add more Chiefs so now two CEO's - one for venue one for sport - so costs go up and we ask why is that needed
Derek is owned £18m with no way to repay him as well as the bonds due in 2022
A massive £50m in loans and losses risen and no end in sight, with one big ugly asset being the Ricoh
Probably why the bond value has crashed 30% in last weeks and more to come ….“

Their site is quite interesting, quite a few not that happy at being at the Ricoh.
 
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BackRoomRummermill

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #528
They are desperate hopefully , the council will beg Cov to come home , I say stuff them until all insects gone
 
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MalcSB

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #529
Wasps second from bottom as well.
Rumblings of discontent.
Attendances reduced year on year since infesting the Ricoh.
Upsetting local communities beyond football supporters.
No naming rights, and reduced value of those rights with no football team involved.
Bond matures in 2 years.

Excellent, all going in the right direction.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #530
BackRoomRummermill said:
They are desperate hopefully , the council will beg Cov to come home , I say stuff them until all insects gone
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That’s ok, so long as CCFC could hold out for an uncertain amount of time.
 

BackRoomRummermill

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #531
Cov could end buying the Ricoh on the cheap from the liquidator

the place is cursed
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #532
BackRoomRummermill said:
They are desperate hopefully , the council will beg Cov to come home , I say stuff them until all insects gone
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Tommo1993 said:
That’s ok, so long as CCFC could hold out for an uncertain amount of time.
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What would we realistically hope for or agree to?

Ideal world, they go back down sarf and we move back in for a pittance.

Realistically - would we go halfs and split the non-sports side down the middle? Would SISU cough up and pay for that deal? After all, it's been pointed out the council shafted us and quite a few complained we weren't offered the same deal. Maybe splitting the difference and going 50/50 is the only realistic way of playing again in Cov.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #533
hill83 said:
I’ve called Columbo Nick a bellend several times.


I think Grendel is a right knob 95% of the time. Actual quote from me.


Fernando is a whinging little dry lunch bitch and I’ve called him out for it.

And no offence to Liquid Gold but I couldn’t tell you anything about him. Don’t know him (don’t know any of them) and can’t recall any post of his in particular.

All of this probably says more about me than them tbf but you need to dry your eyes you little bitch. There is only one thing we all agree on.

I’m my own person and the suggestion of me being part of a hive mind on here really gets on my tits.
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Dead to me
 
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CanadianCCFC

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #534
Leicester seem to be worse than Wasps so hopefully their form improves.
 

BackRoomRummermill

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #535
RegTheDonk said:
What would we realistically hope for or agree to?

Ideal world, they go back down sarf and we move back in for a pittance.

Realistically - would we go halfs and split the non-sports side down the middle? Would SISU cough up and pay for that deal? After all, it's been pointed out the council shafted us and quite a few complained we weren't offered the same deal. Maybe splitting the difference and going 50/50 is the only realistic way of playing again in Cov.
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I think any deal that prevents them being able to lock us out is acceptable and all money from CCFC activity goes to CCFC

divorce any arrangements on security parking , hot dogs etc

we cannot go back if they are taking a chunk of match day money because they will up the rent to compensate for their demise
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #536
BackRoomRummermill said:
I think any deal that prevents them being able to lock us out is acceptable and all money from CCFC activity goes to CCFC

divorce any arrangements on security parking , hot dogs etc

we cannot go back if they are taking a chunk of match day money because they will up the rent to compensate for their demise
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I’m ok to go back so long as we can pick up some naming rights money. Us not being there is the reason they haven’t got a naming right.

on top of that we want all of the football revenue - they can keep the rest
 
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hill83

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #537
Liquid Gold said:
Dead to me
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CCFC54321

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #538
CanadianCCFC said:
Leicester seem to be worse than Wasps so hopefully their form improves.
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It’s expected their form will once their internationals are back. (So I read)
 
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Feb57

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #539
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Link to a site that is touting office space at the Ricoh for rent 160,000 PA?
Anyone know who has departed or are they making new space available?
 

shepardo01

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #540
Feb57 said:
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Link to a site that is touting office space at the Ricoh for rent 160,000 PA?
Anyone know who has departed or are they making new space available?
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Somebody posted yesterday, on either Wasps BS/want to go home/wasps finances thread (can't remember!) that Ricoh themselves were moving out. (Stated poor relationship with Wasps) (Didn't even know that they had offices at the ricoh).... if this is true.....
We know that the naming rights are and have been up for some while.
Edit... skybluecharlie9 in Wasps finances on Friday....
 

MalcSB

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #541
Thinking about it, on what basis would wasps have expected CCFC to offer an indemnity? IF any wrong doing was shown by the EU process, it would have been the council’s actions and not wasps or CCFC. Logically it should be for the council and or councillors personally to indemnify wasps against the consequences of anything dodgy.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #542
BackRoomRummermill said:
I think any deal that prevents them being able to lock us out is acceptable and all money from CCFC activity goes to CCFC

divorce any arrangements on security parking , hot dogs etc

we cannot go back if they are taking a chunk of match day money because they will up the rent to compensate for their demise
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #543
Feb57 said:
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Link to a site that is touting office space at the Ricoh for rent 160,000 PA?
Anyone know who has departed or are they making new space available?
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Going to assume the photos of offices aren't the ones they are actually looking to lease out as they appear to be Wasps own offices. Shirts on the walls, Wasps pictures etc.
 

SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #544
shepardo01 said:
Somebody posted yesterday, on either Wasps BS/want to go home/wasps finances thread (can't remember!) that Ricoh themselves were moving out. (Stated poor relationship with Wasps) (Didn't even know that they had offices at the ricoh).... if this is true.....
We know that the naming rights are and have been up for some while.
Edit... skybluecharlie9 in Wasps finances on Friday....
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Yes mate. My friend here in Kent has worked for Ricoh for years in their Croydon office and he told me Friday night they are leaving office at Ricoh. (I didn't know they had an office there either). My mate is not City fan and is a sound reliable guy. I'll check when it's happening.
 

jordan210

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #545
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
Yes mate. My friend here in Kent has worked for Ricoh for years in their Croydon office and he told me Friday night they are leaving office at Ricoh. (I didn't know they had an office there either). My mate is not City fan and is a sound reliable guy. I'll check when it's happening.
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They appear to have 20 or so offices in the UK

Ricoh offices
 

hill83

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #546
chiefdave said:
Going to assume the photos of offices aren't the ones they are actually looking to lease out as they appear to be Wasps own offices. Shirts on the walls, Wasps pictures etc.
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So they are moving to Milton Keynes then!

 

SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #547
jordan210 said:
They appear to have 20 or so offices in the UK

Ricoh offices
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Ok. Not really sure what that is trying suggest - as Ricoh are a global company with offices in lots of places. I have no idea why they are actually leaving the Arena.
 
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Feb57

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #548
It’s not that big an space that’s being touted. 9,886 sq ft, which if my maths are correct is about 33 yards by 33 yards or 99 feet by 99 feet.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #549
Feb57 said:
It’s not that big an space that’s being touted. 9,886 sq ft, which if my maths are correct is about 33 yards by 33 yards or 99 feet by 99 feet.
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If it is a lost tenant then reduces the valuation more!
 

MalcSB

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #550
It would be quite funny if Ricoh think that being associated with wasps (given the local situation) and/ or rugby union in general (given the financial shenanigans) was damaging to their brand image. Even more so if other companies followed suit.
 

MalcSB

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #551
BTW, what’s happened to peaches and cream? Gone sour?
 

Tommo1993

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #552
MalcSB said:
BTW, what’s happened to peaches and cream? Gone sour?
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Probably picked another team to support. Probably Saints or Tigers. Or both. They’re a weird race are Rugby fans.
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Nov 10, 2019
  • #553
MalcSB said:
It would be quite funny if Ricoh think that being associated with wasps (given the local situation) and/ or rugby union in general (given the financial shenanigans) was damaging to their brand image. Even more so if other companies followed suit.
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Your not a million miles from the truth there.....
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Nov 11, 2019
  • #554
I wonder who pays to take down the signage at the ground as taking the ricoh signs down will cost a few quid
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Nov 11, 2019
  • #555
Terry Gibson's perm said:
I wonder who pays to take down the signage at the ground as taking the ricoh signs down will cost a few quid
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ACL/Wasps I guess as it's their gaff.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Nov 11, 2019
  • #556
Skyblueweeman said:
ACL/Wasps I guess as it's their gaff.
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Hope so
 

jordan210

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  • Nov 11, 2019
  • #557
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
Ok. Not really sure what that is trying suggest - as Ricoh are a global company with offices in lots of places. I have no idea why they are actually leaving the Arena.
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Just pointing out how many offices they have the in UK. So I doubt the one at the Ricoh was huge. Also interesting Ricoh call it the Arena. You would thing they would be the ones calling it the Ricoh Arena.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Nov 11, 2019
  • #558
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Hope so
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I cannot see who else would pick up the cost. Certainly wouldn't be Ricoh themselves.
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 11, 2019
  • #559
jordan210 said:
Just pointing out how many offices they have the in UK.
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Bit odd to move out of a building thats got your companies name!

As much as Wasps try to spin things its a constant stream of bad news. Just in the last few weeks training ground plans downgraded again, someone else planning a hotel near the Ricoh when they can't get their plans off the ground (and have a deadline this month with the council), Ricoh moving out and possibly giving up naming rights, team at the bottom of the league, crowds falling, snooker tournament they've hosted for years moving to MK, terrible accounts released.

If it was us there would be story after story in the CT about how much shit we were in.
 
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ccfc92

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  • Nov 11, 2019
  • #560
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