skybluegod
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Yeah, and tbf just because she has extreme opinions doesn’t make her an idiot... I don’t like her either, but she is clearly intelligent, and again they are basically both in the same job.
Well, yeah, but then doesn't Katie Hopkins push boundaries too and start debates?
The US is the most Christian fundamentalist in the world and approximately 35% of US Christians believe the Bible is the literal word of God. In Muslim countries the percentages are far higher, ranging around 50%-80% depending on which country you are talking about.
And there is more bad shit in the Quran than the Bible which is why a literal belief is so dangerous. Mohammed was a war monger who personally killed hundreds of non-Muslims. How many people did Jesus kill?
Yeah, and tbf just because she has extreme opinions doesn’t make her an idiot... I don’t like her either, but she is clearly intelligent, and again they are basically both in the same job.
the old testament is full of mental shit and like the Koran people will twist it to their own ends anyway.
Do I believe Christian fundamentalism is dangerous - yes. Do I believe Islamism is currently more dangerous - yes. But I don't think the threat to our way of life is as bad as some try to make out.
I also think other Muslims suffer most from the consequences of Islamism as the recent bombing in Egypt would suggest.
Why would anyone with half a brain listen to her? If you want someone giving a polemic against Islam there are far more erudite speakers on the subject, Dawkins, Hitchen etc.
Jeez, the only time I mentioned non-white was with regard to my Asian wife. And that was in response to your unfounded and incorrect claim that I treat white Muslims differently from non white Muslims. I judge people based on their beliefs not the color of their skin. You’re really struggling now.
As expected you refuse to condemn the Islamic scriptures that call for the murder of gays, apostates, and Jews. Until you do so I will continue to call you an extremist bigot. You could regain some credibility by simply condemning those scriptures. Are you going to?
Agreed.
Regarding that bombing. Do you know why it happened? Because Sunni Muslims regard the Sufi Muslims as heretical apostates. Sufi Muslims and Ahmedi Muslims are moderates but unfortunately they account for only 10% of all Muslims.
The founder of Quilliam, Haras Rafiq, is a Sufi. He told me that Andy Burnham called him “not a real Muslim”. Andy said that because his extremist Muslim mates in the Labour Party told him that Haras is not a proper Muslim. Andy is too stupid to know any better. There are lots of people like Andy.
Yes, and Dawkins was banned by UC Berkeley for his comments about Islam. I know because I had tickets as I was visiting Berkeley with my son.
List of acts punishable by death according to the bible:
List of actions prohibited by the Bible - RationalWiki
Anything you disagree with?
Jeez, the only time I mentioned non-white was with regard to my Asian wife. And that was in response to your unfounded and incorrect claim that I treat white Muslims differently from non white Muslims. I judge people based on their beliefs not the color of their skin. You’re really struggling now.
As expected you refuse to condemn the Islamic scriptures that call for the murder of gays, apostates, and Jews. Until you do so I will continue to call you an extremist bigot. You could regain some credibility by simply condemning those scriptures. Are you going to?
I do know what happened and I am aware of the Sunni/Shia split which sort of proves my point.
Good to hear it. So presumably you will also criticize the actions of the Prophet Mohammed who - according to the Hadiths - married a child and then had sex with her. Do you criticize that as well? Or do your moral standards only apply to white people?
You mentioned people's skin colour and related it to Islam earlier in the thread. Nice attempt at diverting away from yourself and labelling me as a bigot. You're probably the biggest bigot on the entire forum.
Why would anyone with half a brain listen to her? If you want someone giving a polemic against Islam there are far more erudite speakers on the subject, Dawkins, Hitchen etc.
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So how was that post bigoted? I was accusing you of being the bigot because you apply different moral standards to people based on their skin color.
You’re really in a deep hole. I suggest you stop because you’re looking incredibly stupid.
The bombed mosque was Sufi not Shia.
I then challenged you as not all Muslims are non white and asked if white Muslims are okay? Do you consider Big Mo to be acceptable?
I know, but I said I am also aware of the Sunni/Shia split which accounts for a lot of muslim v muslim violence and proves my point that other muslims suffer most at the hands of Islamists.
EDIT - Just going back to your point on Andy Burnham, if he said that that's very disappointing from him.
I don’t know Big Mo’s religious beliefs so I can’t answer that.
Both white and non white Muslims are okay with me if they reject the fascist teachings of the Holy books.same with Christians and everyone else.
You are not acceptable because you refuse to condemn the Islamic scriptures that support the murder of gays, apostates and Jews.
What’s your next diversionary question, you bigot. Oh yes, and I am calling you a bigot whatever your skin color as skin color is irrelevant.
I know I'm always in weird threads and bickering but this thread is strange, don't get it.
It's what happens when people attempt to spread hatred and bile.
I know, but I said I am also aware of the Sunni/Shia split which accounts for a lot of muslim v muslim violence and proves my point that other muslims suffer most at the hands of Islamists.
EDIT - Just going back to your point on Andy Burnham, if he said that that's very disappointing from him.
I know I'm always in weird threads and bickering but this thread is strange, don't get it.
The danger with mythic texts is when they're reduced to an absolute. There's a multiplicity of meanings, and which meaning people choose to take out of them is as much due to their social background as anything.Agreed. The Old Testament is even more violent than the Quran. But Christians are not acting out those verses, for example stoning people who work on the Sabbath, because they believe the New Testament supersedes the Old Testament. The New Testament is much less violent than the Quran. I believe that’s why we see such stark differences between the West and the Middle East.
It's only hatred because you are don't like the truth, and want to sensor people that talk about it. That's why we have groups like Britain First and people like Milo. If you cannot talk about these issues moderately it creates a vacuum for these types.
Exactly. Wherever there is Islam there are problems.
see my post number 73.
Of course, I agree with that, How many of them actually get air time though? The quiet ones are always censored. The loud ones usually get publicly dressed down. Someone like Katie Hopkins who most of the time deserves it.
Douglas Murray ought to be worth a listen, although he'll probably get you triggered Clint
I'm not sure why you think I find any of those things acceptable. You are a very warped individual.
If we started an off-topic thread about farting in public, somehow it'd end up about Islam, Muslims, terrorists... or the EU.
Of course, I agree with that, How many of them actually get air time though? The quiet ones are always censored. The loud ones usually get publicly dressed down. Someone like Katie Hopkins who most of the time deserves it.
Douglas Murray ought to be worth a listen, although he'll probably get you triggered Clint
Despite numerous prompts, you have repeatedly refused to condemn the Islamic scriptures that call for the murder of gays, apostates, and Jews. You could easily extricate yourself from this hole you have dug. All you have to say is:
"I unreservedly condemn the Islamic scriptures that call for the murder of gays, apostates, and Jews."
Your mealy-mouthed prevarication on this issue sounds very much like the Islamists who phone up Maajid Nawaz on his LBC radio show, calling him a bigot, and yet they cannot bring themselves to condemn the Islamic scriptures that call for the murder of gays, apostates, and Jews.
Why can't you say that?
You are one very confused individual.
But it's the people appropriating something that's the issue and, if it wasn't Islam, it would be something else.
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