Sky Blue Harry H
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Glad he didn't sugar coat it. Fair assessment.
Robins saying we don’t deserve anything. We just don’t have a go at the opposition. We are not there yet . Still not at the level playing catch up. We hate losing games. We had a couple of shots and have to do better. Players coming back from injury and have to play them straight away. We need to start picking up points. We need to get to a higher level. Lads will be ok, we have to believe that. Players are fearful in their play. We need to be confident. Strange surroundings but have to adjust. Will take time to get more out of the players. Tough league. Tried to win the game with the subs. Walker should have been up front not in midfield and taking them on. We get the ball and give it back to them. Had a bit of control then made changes and ball has to go in right area. When they score clinical. Have to be calm and the score again but we were kamikaze and they score again. Marko comes out and nowhere near it. Wasn’t to be. Disappointed and have to stay positive and get on with it. Can’t go under and hiding. Need to face this and see too much fear. Playing Reading top of the league. Challenge for us. We are not us at the moment. Games are thick and fast.
Waste of time this is
Walker lost the ball on the half way line trying to dribble round 2 players. I don't know why he was there in the first place but none of our other midfielders would try and do that in that position on the pitch. He might have been fouled in the process but it was the decision to do that which was the catalyst for the goal. Think the CBs switched off because they weren't expecting that.Surprised this is how you saw it. I don’t think the subs and anything to do with the goal, which was straight up dog shit defending being caught out by a simple ball between two CBs.
(or a criminal offside but the camera man was daydreaming so who knows)
yes, yes you are tonight
Walker lost the ball on the half way line trying to dribble round 2 players. I don't know why he was there in the first place but none of our other midfielders would try and do that in that position on the pitch. He might have been fouled in the process but it was the decision to do that which was the catalyst for the goal. Think the CBs switched off because they weren't expecting that.
For me, Walker should have been subbed on for Godden and been running the channels/over the top and not been in that position in the first place.
I'll take 3-1 (after one over)
Glad he didn't sugar coat it. Fair assessment.
L1 kids? How many of the starting 11 tonight would you class as 'kids'??
I don't wish to see him go at all. I just wish to see us be more flexible and set up in different ways depending on who we play. Loosing is one thing, but if we just do the same thing and still expect a different outcome every week it would a concern.
Every time he's come on he's looked not quite sure where he's supposed to be in relation to Godden. I've not seen one run into space from him yet he's just been a target man.Walker lost the ball on the half way line trying to dribble round 2 players. I don't know why he was there in the first place but none of our other midfielders would try and do that in that position on the pitch. He might have been fouled in the process but it was the decision to do that which was the catalyst for the goal. Think the CBs switched off because they weren't expecting that.
For me, Walker should have been subbed on for Godden and been running the channels/over the top and not been in that position in the first place.
Every time he's come on he's looked not quite sure where he's supposed to be in relation to Godden. I've not seen one run into space from him yet he's just been a target man.
Is he? I didn't get that impression from the highlights I've seen of himHe is too similar to Godden, that's the problem.
Both players highlights are very similar their goals all come from good service playing with partners majority of walkers are poachers goals in and about the box same as Godden I haven’t seen many if any of them winning long balls running into the channels beating players and finishingIs he? I didn't get that impression from the highlights I've seen of him
Robins saying we don’t deserve anything. We just don’t have a go at the opposition. We are not there yet . Still not at the level playing catch up. We hate losing games. We had a couple of shots and have to do better. Players coming back from injury and have to play them straight away. We need to start picking up points. We need to get to a higher level. Lads will be ok, we have to believe that. Players are fearful in their play. We need to be confident. Strange surroundings but have to adjust. Will take time to get more out of the players. Tough league. Tried to win the game with the subs. Walker should have been up front not in midfield and taking them on. We get the ball and give it back to them. Had a bit of control then made changes and ball has to go in right area. When they score clinical. Have to be calm and the score again but we were kamikaze and they score again. Marko comes out and nowhere near it. Wasn’t to be. Disappointed and have to stay positive and get on with it. Can’t go under and hiding. Need to face this and see too much fear. Playing Reading top of the league. Challenge for us. We are not us at the moment. Games are thick and fast.
We will have to agree to disagree on the definition of a kid in that case. A 23yo in my view is not a kid in the modern game. Look at the England squad picked on merit, it's jammed packed full of kids!!Kids (U23): Østigård, Giles, McCallum, Hamer, Sheaf, O’Hare, Shipley, Walker. Even Maroši is young for a keeper.
L1 (or equiv majority of experience): Maroši, Østigård, Hyam, McFadz, Giles, McCallum, Sheaf, Hamer, Allen, Shipley, Godden, O’Hare, Walker, Dabo
Is he? I didn't get that impression from the highlights I've seen of him
The tactics were odd tonight in my opinion, Boro aren’t a standout team at this level and we played for a 0-0 with 10 men behind the ball. We executed it well first half but to do it over 90 minutes is too much of an ask for a team who give away 3 or 4 self inflected opportunities to the other team a game, they really should have scored as early as the 50th minute when Sheaf passed it straight to them.
Once the first goal went in it was game over
“When are we going to really believe that we are going to get something from the game, because I don’t think we did.
What so MR doesn't think we should only give it a go against a few teams at the bottom either? I'm shookRobins saying we don’t deserve anything. We just don’t have a go at the opposition. We are not there yet . Still not at the level playing catch up. We hate losing games. We had a couple of shots and have to do better. Players coming back from injury and have to play them straight away. We need to start picking up points. We need to get to a higher level. Lads will be ok, we have to believe that. Players are fearful in their play. We need to be confident. Strange surroundings but have to adjust. Will take time to get more out of the players. Tough league. Tried to win the game with the subs. Walker should have been up front not in midfield and taking them on. We get the ball and give it back to them. Had a bit of control then made changes and ball has to go in right area. When they score clinical. Have to be calm and the score again but we were kamikaze and they score again. Marko comes out and nowhere near it. Wasn’t to be. Disappointed and have to stay positive and get on with it. Can’t go under and hiding. Need to face this and see too much fear. Playing Reading top of the league. Challenge for us. We are not us at the moment. Games are thick and fast.
Yeh fair enough. I’d probably argue though that’s an individual error rather than being too aggressive with the changes.Walker lost the ball on the half way line trying to dribble round 2 players. I don't know why he was there in the first place but none of our other midfielders would try and do that in that position on the pitch. He might have been fouled in the process but it was the decision to do that which was the catalyst for the goal. Think the CBs switched off because they weren't expecting that.
For me, Walker should have been subbed on for Godden and been running the channels/over the top and not been in that position in the first place.
Boro and Blackburn are some of the lesser teamsFor what it is worth I would like us to play a few more games before I become a total doom munger , especially against what I would think the leagues lesser teams. It may be fantasy but a couple of wins who knows , I think the absence of the incredible and Long suffering SBA may have an effect as the support was mentioned in despatches many times last season, the team mostly new to this level . I just think it’s too simplistic to say we are plain shite .
For what it is worth I would like us to play a few more games before I become a total doom munger , especially against what I would think the leagues lesser teams. It may be fantasy but a couple of wins who knows , I think the absence of the incredible and Long suffering SBA may have an effect as the support was mentioned in despatches many times last season, the team mostly new to this level . I just think it’s too simplistic to say we are plain shite .
Even Brentford are 11thBoro and Blackburn are some of the lesser teams
He surely cannot let that long ball to Godden shit carry on anyway If you wanna go long play a target manMR has accurately laid out the problems but he doesn’t sound like he knows what to try
The tactics were odd tonight in my opinion, Boro aren’t a standout team at this level and we played for a 0-0 with 10 men behind the ball. We executed it well first half but to do it over 90 minutes is too much of an ask for a team who give away 3 or 4 self inflected opportunities to the other team a game, they really should have scored as early as the 50th minute when Sheaf passed it straight to them.
Once the first goal went in it was game over
He surely cannot let that long ball to Godden shit carry on anyway If you wanna go long play a target man
If I'm not mistaken only 3 of our starting 11 had played a Championship game before this season. That includes Godden playing a handful of games for Scunthorpe in their relegation season 10 years ago and Allen playing for Burton in their relegation season. McFadzean is the only one with a decent amount of Championship experience and in the three seasons he's played he's been part of a relegation side twice.L1 kids? How many of the starting 11 tonight would you class as 'kids'??
Anyone who remembers the Cov years in the prem , this current is par for the course , one example we did not win till october one season then the Steve froggat belter changed that .ironically the season we went down we spent a lot of money that year in transfers
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