mmttww
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I know we all think this club is great, but this is a stretch for benchmarking. It's second tier football.
Matchday Ticket Prices (11 Viewers)
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I know we all think this club is great, but this is a stretch for benchmarking. It's second tier football.
shmmeee
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It’s one of the top five leagues in Europe and has an international audience. It’s not Bedworth Wrestling Society
Marty
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It's a great standard of football, far better than most top divisions, the only reason we don't get entries into European competitions is because we're second tier.
Evo1883
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Top 5 by what metric
fernandopartridge
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The team currently 71st in the Opta Power Rankings mate
shmmeee
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Most lists of top 5 leagues. It’s an international product. World class doesn’t mean “can play in the World Cup” (though the league does have numerous players who will be). We might not be talking Hollywood blockbuster but significantly above community theatre.
Evo1883
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Its not one of the big 5 leagues is it , but i agree its a good product .. its not world class becauee thats reserved for the best leagues in the world with the best players
shmmeee
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If you arranged all football being played competitively on the planet what % would you out it at?
Define best if not “one of the top 5/10/20 in a field of hundreds of thousands”? You’re just setting an arbitrary bar. The fact is people who are not local watch it, people who are not English watch it. It is by definition a world class product.
Evo1883
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Ok mate its world class , the scottish premier league is also a world class product using this logic
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alexccfc99
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A lot of our fans are going on the defensive regarding this and I half understand it - You have got WBA, Brum etc. fans saying that we should be charged the same for the respective return games and it has got peoples backs up - Does that make them any better? Why should we be held to account for them not agreeing with the actions of our owner
In Birmingham's case, I genuinely believe they are lucky to even get an allocation at all when they visit The CBS as the last three occasions on the spin they have proven that they are incapable of acting like a normal fanbase and act like Neanderthals by trashing the toilet and concourse - They are a special exception and I can genuinely understand the club wanting to cover their own backs for the required increase in policing costs etc. - Infact, in future I would not be opposed to shutting them out of any game they play at The CBS in the future and if that means no allocation for us at St Andrew's then so be it
In Birmingham's case, I genuinely believe they are lucky to even get an allocation at all when they visit The CBS as the last three occasions on the spin they have proven that they are incapable of acting like a normal fanbase and act like Neanderthals by trashing the toilet and concourse - They are a special exception and I can genuinely understand the club wanting to cover their own backs for the required increase in policing costs etc. - Infact, in future I would not be opposed to shutting them out of any game they play at The CBS in the future and if that means no allocation for us at St Andrew's then so be it
Evo1883
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Some odd takes on here for sure , out of touch
shmmeee
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What does a performance at the Belgrade cost? That’s a similar level of time and local quality if you don’t accept British football is an international product.
And no one has said it’s fine to charge that for kids just that they understand why the club has had to do it after watching arseholes come on here gloating about how they never pay full price.
Evo1883
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Dont blame fans for the club being unable to police the fucking turnstiles correctly
shmmeee
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Nah I will actually. You won’t probably because you know some of them but if you want someone to blame for high kids prices it’s very clearly them. All policing is by consent. It was happening at such a scale that the club could either spend hundreds of thousands on enforcement or just stop it being so attractive to people who want to rip the club off.
Evo1883
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They should be checking tickets .. its their job .
So no its not because a few went in for cheap that doug has decided to screw kids prices in some games
What a weird take
shmmeee
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Not in Block 35. Maybe the club directs limited resources where the most offences happen and with turnstiles that’s just not possible? Maybe they can’t afford to pay people who would confront a coked up fan.
The fact you’re defending people ripping off the club to the extent that they felt forced to basically remove match day kids discount while claiming to really care about ticket prices.
Every cost a fan incurs on the club has to be paid somehow.
Evo1883
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So no stewards check tickets in block 35 ? Raise it with the club .. clearly its your block letting all the man childs in
clint van damme
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clint van damme
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Was an issue with adults on kids tickets.
Issue sorted.
2 years later kids prices become the most expensive in the league because of it - apparently.
Evo1883
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Yea no other club suffers with these problems just ours
Evo1883
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Im saying the club should be simply checking tickets like you have to do at most events .. and raising it if an adult is trying to gain access on a childs ticket
Whats the issue with that ?
shmmeee
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The issue is that most places aren’t dealing with football fans.
Evo1883
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Right , then maybe the club should be ? Not hard is it , most other clubs manage it fine .. i get checked away from home at the turnstiles every match
shmmeee
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Ultimately you can either see the club as a club and that we all have a responsibility to act properly and chip in to keep it going, or you can see it as a business that needs to stay afloat. But you can’t pick and choose when you see it as what. If you think the club should have some social purpose then IMO that places more responsibility on fans not to act like dicks and raise costs. And probably thanks to Sisu there are some fans that see the club as a faceless corporation to rip off without guilt.
Evo1883
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I think everybody understands the club need to try and make revenue .
So is every other football club in the football league
Ccfcisparks
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Voiceover - "He was not infact done."
mmttww
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If there's other clubs in the same league with a stadium that's not sh*t charging as much or more than us for U18s tickets, that's grim but I'll feel a bit less frustrated.
Otherwise, I'm not having my club benchmarked against touring artists that have nothing to do with my community. Blaming fans for high kids prices is a bit masochistic, too.
Otherwise, I'm not having my club benchmarked against touring artists that have nothing to do with my community. Blaming fans for high kids prices is a bit masochistic, too.
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clint van damme
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If people think our kids ticket prices are OK then that's up to them even though I disagree with them.
But let's not pretend it's:
a) because we had people going in on concession tickets 2 years ago.
b) Kyle from Bordesley Green smashed a urinal
c) Someone paid £125 to see Michael Buble
Skyblueweeman
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Evo1883
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Irish Sky Blue
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Football is not the same as the theatre. I enjoy going to plays and musicals but it’s a two or three times a year event, particularly as ticket prices are high.
Football clubs depend upon the same group of people coming back up to 30 times in a year ( cup matches, friendlies etc). I’d say that the people who go to the Belgrade are a much wider group who visit a lot less often than those who go to the CBS. It’s therefore going to be much more costly to do what the club ultimately needs us to do, that is attend regularly.
I doubt that adults using a children’s tickets are a reason or a justification for the prohibitive price of a junior ticket. How do other clubs manage?
chiefdave
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This is the issue basically. Some people believe football tickets are no different to other forms of live entertainment and therefore the person setting the prices is correct to be looking to maximise revenue.
Other people believe football is different and shouldn't be subject to market forces and that the person setting the prices should make them affordable even if the club in question is losing a 7 figure sum every year.
We're just going round in circles between the two groups.
Not sure its really in any way a different argument to those saying the same about concerts, theatre etc. They all believe that their chosen form of entertainment should be cheaper and not impacted be rising ticket prices elsewhere.