Martyn waghorn interview , talks about his dislike for adi and robins (1 Viewer)

[Fergusons_Beard]

A footballer very much on the wain when he came to us. Rather than be the brilliant example of an experienced professional for our young strikers basically came across as a fucking mardy arse who threw his toys out of the pram because he wasn’t playing.

As he said in the interview-he knew what his role was when he joined us and as he admits-he didn’t really want to be at City.


I can image what a fucking nightmare he was for management-a bloody loose canon in a very tight knit team with great spirit-dealt with accordingly by Adi.


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[mrfr]

Martyn Waghorn being an anti-vaxxer makes total sense.

 

[Pezza]

I actually thought he came across well in the pod. Obviously a few sky blue tinted on here who jump to the defence of Adi and Robins lol. Those two fell out with each other!

It's part of life, let alone football that people don't always get on or some have poor experiences. Nobody is perfect.

It didn't work out here at all for Waghorn though, he was really poor but clearly was on the decline and had injuries, etc. I do agree though that the biggest issue seemed to be that he wanted to be elsewhere. He mentions about paying money back to the club in order to move, which is interesting.

What was nice to hear is how much he loved working for Lampard, joined Derby over Boro (who offered more money) in order to play for Frank. He said he was brilliant and a everything he does is about winning.

 

[shmmeee]

Martyn Waghorn being an anti-vaxxer makes total sense.

I bet you could make absolute bank selling nonsense to footballers.

 

[clint van damme]

Martyn Waghorn being an anti-vaxxer makes total sense.

Refused an injection of pace

 

[clint van damme]

I bet you could make absolute bank selling nonsense to footballers.

Exhibit A - Jack Rudonis wardrobe

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Exhibit A - Jack Rudonis wardrobe

Exhibit B - Michael McIndoe

 

[itsabuzzard]

He was a striker who scored as many goals in 22/23 as Ben Wilson.

For a second I thought you'd got the wrong Wilson, but then realised you weren't posting in Waghorn's defence!

 

[Hobo]

He's right in what he says about being an on pitch communicator. Was very vocal with the players around him when he played.
Unfortunately his brain couldn't communicate with his feet.

This also shows why people like Allen are so important, know they won't play every week, but train hard, show good attitude and do a job when they're called on.

With Allen and Eccles they also give us continuity at the club. It helps build the team spirit we have. It's all very well saying get rid of those four players bring in this four.

But it isn't all about skill it is also about personality and attitude. It doesn't take much to wreck the harmony. Look at Manchester United, Liverpool and Manchester City, they have all lost that mojo and it's not from the lack of spending money.

 

[clint van damme]

With Allen and Eccles they also give us continuity at the club. It helps build the team spirit we have. It's all very well saying get rid of those four players bring in this four.

But it isn't all about skill it is also about personality and attitude. It doesn't take much to reck the harmony. Look at Manchester United, Liverpool and Manchester City, they have all lost that mojo and it's not from the lack of spending money.

Lampard has spoke about what a great fella Allen is to have around.

 

[AOM]

He comes across like a less coherent version of Michael from I’m Alan Partridge

Waghorn teaching Gyokeres everything he knows in training

 

[Hobo]

Lampard has spoke about what a great fella Allen is to have around.

I am sure he is. The other thing I notice with Allen, is when he comes back from injury he seems to hit the ground running. Where as some players like Sheaf always needed two or three games to get up to speed.

Allen off the bench is pretty good at picking up on the pace of the game and just slotting in. Impacting off the bench isn't easy. If you start the game you can take 15 minutes to find your rhythm. Off the bench sometimes you are only going to get 20-15 minutes sometimes less.

 

[AOM]

I am sure he is. The other thing I notice with Allen, is when he comes back from injury he seems to hit the ground running. Where as some players like Sheaf always needed two or three games to get up to speed.

Allen off the bench is pretty good at picking up on the pace of the game and just slotting in. Impacting off the bench isn't easy. If you start the game you can take 15 minutes to find your rhythm. Off the bench sometimes you are only going to get 20-15 minutes sometimes less.

Think Jamie Allen was born match fit

 

[SkyBlueSoul]

bang average journeyman who looked a shadow of his earlier days. Can’t really remember a single lasting memory of him on the pitch either.

Mine will be his role in the 4th goal v Blues (the O'Hare glasses goal) where he didn't get onto the through ball then spent 5 seconds jumping and spinning round with no idea where the ball was. Video should start in the right place

 

[CovRes]

bang average journeyman who looked a shadow of his earlier days. Can’t really remember a single lasting memory of him on the pitch either.

Kicking the shit out of the advertising boards after scoring a penalty.

 

[Offhegoes]

He was a strange signing, what with Vik, Walker & Godden already here, and we still had O'Hare. Weren't their rumours of Viveash falling out with players around the time he left. Seems that rumour was forgotten once Robins left and King spilled the beans.

 

[Jamesimus]

You make it sound like there's a right side of the Tyne.

There is, the Newcastle side.

 

[lord_garrincha]

I am sure he is. The other thing I notice with Allen, is when he comes back from injury he seems to hit the ground running. Where as some players like Sheaf always needed two or three games to get up to speed.

Allen off the bench is pretty good at picking up on the pace of the game and just slotting in. Impacting off the bench isn't easy. If you start the game you can take 15 minutes to find your rhythm. Off the bench sometimes you are only going to get 20-15 minutes sometimes less.

Whereas Sheaf off the bench played like he had his boots on the wrong foot, with the laces tied together!

 

[SkyB]

I'll never forget Southampton away in the FA Cup, he missed a sitter when were were 2-1 down with minutes left and then stuck his toe on Todd Kane's rebound and was offside.

Fan were unbelievable all game and every player came over at full time to applaud bar him, he went straight off down the tunnel having missed the golden chance in the game.

Hated him since then

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

He was a strange signing, what with Vik, Walker & Godden already here, and we still had O'Hare. Weren't their rumours of Viveash falling out with players around the time he left. Seems that rumour was forgotten once Robins left and King spilled the beans.

It wasn't really that strange to be fair at the time. Experienced Championship footballer with a fairly decent record at this level. I didn't actually think he started the season too badly either.

The problem was he was on a downward trajectory and after he had Covid that seemed to just exacerbate that hugely.

 

[Russell Slade]

I had a mate that worked in the media team at the time. Simon Moore had actually signed a couple of days before Waghorn did, so the club were going to announce him first. However, Waghorn insisted they delayed Moore and announced his signing first. All because he wanted to throw a 'new club' party at home. The media team and Robins were very unimpressed from day one

 

[CovRes]

Something he said didn't sound right to me. He said he signed late in the window. It was early July.

Martyn Waghorn: Coventry City sign former Derby County striker

Coventry City sign striker Martyn Waghorn on a two-year contract after his departure from Derby County.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[The Philosopher]

I remember posting that it was a “strange decision” to spooge 13k per week (allegedly) on a 32 year old. I got pelters.

This trope about needing an experienced striker; what was Godden? A youth player?

(I did go on to say that we had no height or physicality in the front line with just Gyok and we should sign some lanky non-league player and keep a chunk of money for other options. Who knew?)

 

[Great_Expectations]

Think Jamie Allen was born match fit

Are you saying there has been a boy born who can swim faster than a shark?

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

I remember posting that it was a “strange decision” to spooge 13k per week (allegedly) on a 32 year old. I got pelters.

This trope about needing an experienced striker; what was Godden? A youth player?

(I did go on to say that we had no height or physicality in the front line with just Gyok and we should sign some lanky non-league player and keep a chunk of money for other options. Who knew?)

It's not really trope. At the point Waghorn signed, Godden had only played around half a season of Championship football due to injury.

Conversely, Waghorn had played probably the best part of 350 Champ games by the time he joined.

Bit of a difference.

 

[shmmeee]

More like Martyn Wage-horn amirite?

 

[blunted]

Martyn Waghorn being an anti-vaxxer makes total sense.

That was my take on it. That immediately puts other players at risk.
Can see why an experienced striker could have been perfect to bring on our young players. Says he didn't want to come and that was reflected in his performances which were really poor. Two goal, one a pen.
When players fall out with management there are always two sides to the story. He is pretty much in a minority of players who fell out with the bosses.Expected Robins to take his side over Adi. Get a life.
Strange he said Viveash ran the show.

 

[wingy]

The SISU days, best forgotten.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Waghorn’s admission that Viveash “ran the show” does go some way explaining why it went so pear shaped under Robins after AV left. He got the appointments of Carr and Boateng completely wrong.

 

[clint van damme]

Waghorn’s admission that Viveash “ran the show” does go some way explaining why it went so pear shaped under Robins after AV left. He got the appointments of Carr and Boateng completely wrong.

Or it could just be saltiness from someone who admitted he didn't want to be at the club.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Or it could just be saltiness from someone who admitted he didn't want to be at the club.

Without a doubt there’s saltiness, but that doesn’t discount that point. It’s something King effectively said by questioning the ‘support’ Robins had in Boateng and Carr.

Robins himself said on many occasions that AV would plan the training sessions and so on.

 

[clint van damme]

Without a doubt there’s saltiness, but that doesn’t discount that point. It’s something King effectively said by questioning the ‘support’ Robins had in Boateng and Carr.

Robins himself said on many occasions that AV would plan the training sessions and so on.

Loads of assistants do that.
I don't disagree that the fallout between the two is what ultimately lead to Robins leaving but some of the other narrative I don't agree with till this day.

But it's just going over old ground, and everything has worked out well.

 

[Shannerz]

More like Martyn Wage-horn amirite?

Someone on Wiki thinks so:

 

[Offhegoes]

Without a doubt there’s saltiness, but that doesn’t discount that point. It’s something King effectively said by questioning the ‘support’ Robins had in Boateng and Carr.

Robins himself said on many occasions that AV would plan the training sessions and so on.

There's no doubt that AV is and was a top coach, but you can tell he will make his point (as any good assistant should of course). Robins work at Stoke in the last year shows he's a top manager. I do wonder, had MR & AV not fallen out, what would have happened last season, and this.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

There's no doubt that AV is and was a top coach, but you can tell he will make his point (as any good assistant should of course). Robins work at Stoke in the last year shows he's a top manager. I do wonder, had MR & AV not fallen out, what would have happened last season, and this.

Robins does seem to have gone back to 22/23 tactics at Stoke. They are v solid, have a good keeper and will be difficult to beat this season. My view right now is that they won’t finish in the top 4 but will end up in the playoffs.