Rubbish. We’re a bigger club than Bournemouth. Howe isn’t coming here and Robins isn’t going there
Thankfully this blinkered point of view if slowly being silenced, I am not saying they haven’t made A LOT of mistakes however we could be a lot worse off.Long may it continue. One if not the only one thing the owners have got right during their incompetent tenure
Not really rubbish is it, Sunderland with the correct manager would be going only one way... Barnsley will never go any further than championship strugglers
Barnsley are above Sunderland in the league pyramid
Anyway back to thread, yes we have a great manager let’s enjoy it!Thankfully this blinkered point of view if slowly being silenced, I am not saying they haven’t made A LOT of mistakes however we could be a lot worse off.
Time to take a step back and realise that our situation was a result of a whole host of twats!
I don't think it's sinking in.... Sunderland a bigger club with much bigger resources and a better chance of ever getting back to the promised land... Under the correct manager.
Barnsley will never get back to the Premier league
And we will? They’re far better resourced and stable than us
You can’t compare the two. Each deserves merit in their own way.So if he managed his entire career in the top flight he’d have the same ratio?
Hill and Robins never managed in the top flight
Is Dowie a better manager than Sillett? Is Robins?
No
Rubbish. We’re a bigger club than Bournemouth. Howe isn’t coming here and Robins isn’t going there
A manager wouldn’t leave a bottom half Premier League club for example Norwich or Bournemouth for Leeds because Leeds have been in the top 4 before and have the fanbase to do it again in the future
That was to be closer to his familyWell the Bristol manager went to Mansfield... A league below
Or a playerA manager wouldn’t leave a bottom half Premier League club for example Norwich or Bournemouth for Leeds because Leeds have been in the top 4 before and have the fanbase to do it again in the future
Or a player
You don't think if Leeds came and offered Eddie howe a massive wage and a healthy transfer budget he wouldnt jump ship... With the club on the cusp of promotion and a chance to become a legend... Whilst Bournemouth look like going one way and Leeds the other
Would he? Are there any examples of this happening? I can’t remember one
Howard Wilkinson dropped down a division to become Sheffield Wednesday manager after managing Notts County a division above
So none in recent times?
Dont move the goalposts
There’s one example in 1983 which is not really applicable to 2020 with the Premier League as we know it now
You asked for an example I gave you one in 30 seconds... Its neither here nor there... I don't think Robins would leave us for a Barnsley this time.
Turning away Sunderland would have been a much harder thing to do in my opinion, we will have to agree to disagree
Yes we will have to. I just don’t think that’s a major part of a players or managers thinking really, it’s all about the present situation and not the past imo
It means more happy days than sadI’m not sure if that means anything does it?
I know we all love to think our manager and players will stick with us no matter what but if a Barnsley or someone of that ilk came in for him he’d be off or at least giving it serious consideration
If he gets us promoted all the way into the top flight, provides sell-out entertainment and sets the whole of Coventry and Warwickshire alight with passion for CCFC, then yes.Wasn't it pretty much the same journey up? If he somehow gets us up again then he's on course to match what hill achieved surely
Very doubtful indeed, he'll still never have anything like the budget he's got at Bournemouth, nor the patience from fans. He couldn't do it at BurnleyYou don't think if Leeds came and offered Eddie howe a massive wage and a healthy transfer budget he wouldnt jump ship... With the club on the cusp of promotion and a chance to become a legend... Whilst Bournemouth look like going one way and Leeds the other... He'd be gone tomorrow
How many teams had he got promoted other than us?
Just like Leicester would never win the Premier League. Just like Bournemouth would never be in it.I don't think it's sinking in.... Sunderland a bigger club with much bigger resources and a better chance of ever getting back to the promised land... Under the correct manager.
Barnsley will never get back to the Premier league
So if he managed his entire career in the top flight he’d have the same ratio?
Hill and Robins never managed in the top flight
Is Dowie a better manager than Sillett? Is Robins?
No
I agree credit where it’s due but he can’t be compared to managers in the top flight as it’s a very different circumstance
I think that one of the most remarkable aspects of Robins achievements as manager of CCFC is that he’s had to do it without the luxury of having what Jimmy had. Everyone including the owners pulling in the same direction with a clear focus and goal. On that basis you could argue that Robins is achieving more than Jimmy, relatively speaking.
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