Manchester synagogue attack (26 Viewers)

[mmttww]

the point scoring in this thread is nauseating.

 

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[Ccfcisparks]

the point scoring in the thread is nauseating.

If it was the other way round youd be all over it

 

[DT-R]

The stabbing would almost certainly have been, you would have thought

100% the stabbing was planned for that date. Im.pretty sure the pro Palestine protests were too!

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[Nick]

One of the dead men shot by the police and another in hospital also shot.

In Manchester? Confused.

Another injured by the police?

 

[torchomatic]

My mom told me during the cold war that at school they had her doing lockdown drills. Do we still do that now?

I went to school in the 70s. I don't remember lockdowns or anything, but I do remember us watching the Protect & Survive film and getting the leaflets to take home. In the event of a nuclear attack, take a door off its hinges, lean it against a wall and cover it with mattresses and/or soil and then hide underneath.

Wish I still had my P&S leaflet. Worth a bit now.

 

[DT-R]

Going back a few posts (can't be arsed to find it), I would have thought that every poster on here would know that pretty much every single thread on the entire forum, ends up talking about something different to what the OP was all about.

Been happening since the beginning of time and occurs every single day.

Wasn't it NW who said you can start talking about anything, but pretty much every conversation ends up talking about Hitler.

Anyway..

1. It would have been far too late for them to have cancelled the protest yesterday. It would have been organised before the attack in Manchester.

2. They should cancel the protest this weekend, as a sign of compassion and condolence.

Common sense really

And yes, as has been said thousands of times, there is a problem within Islam. 100%. We just need to be very careful not to target all Muslims though.

So it was too late to cancel/postpone lastnights protest, but its not too late to cancel tonight's? OK

Like I say, its almost like lastnight was planned purposefully for the day it was just to cause friction and would've gone ahead regardless.

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

100% the stabbing was planned for that date. Im.pretty sure the pro Palestine protests were too!

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The synagogue attack will have been planned in the hope of getting as many people as possible. The protest date probably was designed to be inflammatory.

 

[Nick]

The synagogue attack will have been planned in the hope of getting as many people as possible. The protest date probably was designed to be inflammatory.

If he had got in, then it would have been much worse.

Fair play to the Rabbi who barricaded the door!

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

the point scoring in the thread is nauseating.

Mmttww has spoken! Klaxon for the forum, the king of it has spoken

 

[mmttww]

If it was the other way round youd be all over it

and folks cracking on with their trolling is grim.

 

[rob9872]

If he had got in, then it would have been much worse.

Fair play to the Rabbi who barricaded the door!

A priest and a rabbi found themselves sharing a compartment on a train. After a while, the priest opened a conversation by saying, "I know that in your religion you're not supposed to eat pork. Have you actually ever tasted it?" The rabbi said, "I must tell the truth. Yes, I have, on the odd occasion."
Then the Rabbi had his turn of interrogation. He asked, "Your religion, too... I know you're supposed to be celibate, but...?"
The priest replied, "Yes, I know what you're going to ask. I have succumbed once or twice."
There was silence for a while. Then the Rabbi peeped around the newspaper he was reading and said, "Better than pork, isn't it?"

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If he had got in, then it would have been much worse.

Fair play to the Rabbi who barricaded the door!

Each of the neo-Nazi attacks I linked above were being planned for major Jewish holidays. To be honest, when I first saw the headline I felt it was as likely to be one of them as it was to be an Islamic extremist.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I’m a Christian and I find a lot of what the saddos on here say offensive about the religion, I just laugh at how sad they are though

That’s interesting
How do you feel about forgiveness?

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

If he was born in Brighton?

Neo-Nazi Brighton teenager with Hove synagogue bomb plan jailed

A judge describes Mason Reynolds as dangerous and jails him for eight years.

www.bbc.co.uk

If he was born in Sheffield?

British neo-Nazi group convicted of planning attacks on synagogues in ‘race war’ - The Jewish Chronicle

The trio were found in possession of 3D-printed firearm components and their phones contained hundreds of racist messages

www.thejc.com

If he was born in Northumberland?

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/alleged-neo-nazi-youth-accused-of-synagogues-attack-plan-to-face-trial-next-year/

It is not just Islamic extremists who are fond of violent attacks on Jewish communities.

That's a stupid argument as we can't send these back anywhere. You get people like this in all countries. We should be deporting these jihads to where there fathers are from if they are born here.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

and folks cracking on with their trolling is grim.

You’ll be apologising for calling people grim at this rate

 

[rob9872]

That’s interesting
How do you feel about forgiveness?

If there is a god and he really is all forgiving, then it doesn't matter what the fek you do or believe in this life as he'll forgive you

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

That’s interesting
How do you feel about forgiveness?

How do you feeling about Christianity always getting mocked and laughed at?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That's a stupid argument as we can't send these back anywhere. You get people like this in all countries. We should be deporting these jihads to where there fathers are from if they are born here.

Nah, it was in response to the argument that if he came from a 'decent' country he wouldn't have planned on bombing a synagogue. Three home-grown examples right there.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Nah, it was in response to the argument that if he came from a 'decent' country he wouldn't have planned on bombing a synagogue. Three home-grown examples right there.

Trying to point score on such a serious situation, that straight from the ‘I used to be a teacher 2 years ago’ playbook?

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

How Patrick Murray ended up driving cars after 'the roles dried up'

He was once a familiar face on TV screens across the country in his role as Cockney chancer Mickey Pearce in the classic British comedy Only Fools and Horses.

mol.im

Then you have this poor bloke who tried to do everything by the book to bring his wife and child over to the UK to start a new life but was constantly denied, yet the boat people get in and month later there families are bought over. It all fucking stinks to me

 

[SBT]

That's a stupid argument as we can't send these back anywhere. You get people like this in all countries. We should be deporting these jihads to where there fathers are from if they are born here.

You can’t usually “send back” someone with a British passport either. If we want to start revoking the passports of criminals based on their ethnic background then good luck with that.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Nah, it was in response to the argument that if he came from a 'decent' country he wouldn't have planned on bombing a synagogue. Three home-grown examples right there.

We can't do everything about the British ones carrying out attacks. 20% of Muslims in this country support the jihads i read somewhere

 

[Ccfcisparks]

We can't do everything about the British ones carrying out attacks. 20% of Muslims in this country support the jihads i read somewhere

Source?

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

You can’t usually “send back” someone with a British passport either. If we want to start revoking the passports of criminals based on their ethnic background then good luck with that.

Well we should do then, I'm sure Australia do it to the British and others. Good on them

 

[rob9872]

Source?

I am the one in ten five
A number on a list
I am the one in ten five
Even though I don't exist
Nobody Knows me
But I'm always there
A statistic, a reminder
Of a world that doesn't care

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

We can't do everything about the British ones carrying out attacks. 20% of Muslims in this country support the jihads i read somewhere

If these British ones were also Muslims I really doubt you'd be saying the same thing. I don't want neo-Nazi terrorists in this country any more than Muslim ones

 

[SBT]

Well we should do then, I'm sure Australia do it to the British and others. Good on them

I think you’re right tbf. I don’t expect that to be easy, but I imagine it would probably garner a lot of support.

 

[Grendel]

I'm happy here, thanks. You're the one who's terrified of everyone who might be different to you.

Where exactly is "Islam", anyway, is it a special place where all brown people should go?

Ok calm down India and get back in your Fiat 500

 

[rob9872]

What if it's an Abarth?

 

[chiefdave]

Agree with that on not being a direct reprisal, but if it was planned well in advance, then to plan for it on a highly religious day in the Jewish calendar (Yom Kippur) when they could have chosen any other day, so clearly is baiting them and therefore against Jews and not Israel.

I mean, take away the Manchester stabbing, its the biggest Jewish holiday of the year! Its almost like.it was purposefully arranged for that night to cause friction?

Probably worth pointing out that they didn't select Yom Kippur, or indeed plan for it to be specifically yesterday, it was planned for if and when Israeli forces illegally detained (or kidnapped depending how you want to phrase it) British citizens.

There were of course also citizens from other countries involved and protests in other countries.

If you want to make an argument they should have postponed it then fine, that's a different discussion and I can see reasons for and against that. But to suggest that they've specifically scheduled it for that data to wind up Jewish people or even worse to celebrate the terrorist attack isn't really helping the situation. Will just cause people, both on and off the forum, with already deeply entrenched views to dig in even harder.

Not sure why there's multiple posts saying people on here are fine with the police being attacked, can't see a single post in the thread that even hints that is OK.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

What if it's an Abarth?

That’s an upgrade on a 500, duffer is a downgrade in everything he does so not possible

 

[rob9872]

Probably worth pointing out that they didn't select Yom Kippur, or indeed plan for it to be specifically yesterday, it was planned for if and when Israeli forces illegally detained (or kidnapped depending how you want to phrase it) British citizens.

There were of course also citizens from other countries involved and protests in other countries.

If you want to make an argument they should have postponed it then fine, that's a different discussion and I can see reasons for and against that. But to suggest that they've specifically scheduled it for that data to wind up Jewish people or even worse to celebrate the terrorist attack isn't really helping the situation. Will just cause people, both on and off the forum, with already deeply entrenched views to dig in even harder.

Not sure why there's multiple posts saying people on here are fine with the police being attacked, can't see a single post in the thread that even hints that is OK.

Not quite in context again Dave, it's half a post in response to others. I was making one of two points.

Either it was pre-planned and therefore was to stir up hatred by choosing that specific day OR it was only organised on the hoof in response and therefore if it was organised so quickly it could have equally been cancelled just as quick after yesterday's atrocity. I'm not saying it was 100% one of the other, but the argument can't be for both.

Preplanned - pick another day
Not preplanned - cancel it out of respect

 

[Grendel]

Nah, it was in response to the argument that if he came from a 'decent' country he wouldn't have planned on bombing a synagogue. Three home-grown examples right there.

I think it’s statistically far more likely someone from Syria is likely to commit a terrorist attack and have a bomb on them than a Kiwi - perhaps you don’t

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

I think it’s statistically far more likely someone from Syria is likely to commit a terrorist attack and have a bomb on them than a Kiwi - perhaps you don’t

Did you know that @Brighton Sky Blue used to be a teacher 2 years ago? Feels weird how he hasn’t reminded us daily like he used to for decades

 

[rob9872]

I think it’s statistically far more likely someone from Syria is likely to commit a terrorist attack and have a bomb on them than a Kiwi - perhaps you don’t

Hadlee and Vettori have carried out some pretty heavy attacks on UK soil.