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  • Thread starter Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 11:00 AM
  • #211
Ccfcisparks said:
You constantly defend the indefensible. If you love Islam so much go and live there
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He’s openly not denying he’s fine with men in women’s toilets, scary if you ask me
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 11:01 AM
  • #212
Grendel said:
I somehow doubt if he was born in Auckland and came here as a young child he’d be killing Jews and have bombs on him. Just a thought.
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If he was born in Brighton?

Neo-Nazi Brighton teenager with Hove synagogue bomb plan jailed

A judge describes Mason Reynolds as dangerous and jails him for eight years.
www.bbc.co.uk

If he was born in Sheffield?

British neo-Nazi group convicted of planning attacks on synagogues in ‘race war’ - The Jewish Chronicle

The trio were found in possession of 3D-printed firearm components and their phones contained hundreds of racist messages
www.thejc.com

If he was born in Northumberland?

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/alleged-neo-nazi-youth-accused-of-synagogues-attack-plan-to-face-trial-next-year/

It is not just Islamic extremists who are fond of violent attacks on Jewish communities.
 
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duffer

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  • Today at 11:02 AM
  • #213
Ccfcisparks said:
You constantly defend the indefensible. If you love Islam so much go and live there
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I'm happy here, thanks. You're the one who's terrified of everyone who might be different to you.

Where exactly is "Islam", anyway, is it a special place where all brown people should go?
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 11:04 AM
  • #214
duffer said:
I'm happy here, thanks. You're the one who's terrified of everyone who might be different to you.

Where exactly is "Islam", anyway, is it a special place where all brown people should go?
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You still don’t get he’s on the wind up you weirdo
 
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PVA

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  • Today at 11:04 AM
  • #215
DT-R said:


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Well are they?

Either anyone who does anything on a weekday evening is some benefits scrounger or just when it’s something you don’t agree with?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 11:05 AM
  • #216
duffer said:
I'm happy here, thanks. You're the one who's terrified of everyone who might be different to you.

Where exactly is "Islam", anyway, is it a special place where all brown people should go?
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Christ almighty you are thick
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 11:07 AM
  • #217
Peaceful Palestine protesters again on the holy Jewish day and after the attack
 

Otis

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  • Today at 11:08 AM
  • #218
Going back a few posts (can't be arsed to find it), I would have thought that every poster on here would know that pretty much every single thread on the entire forum, ends up talking about something different to what the OP was all about.

Been happening since the beginning of time and occurs every single day.

Wasn't it NW who said you can start talking about anything, but pretty much every conversation ends up talking about Hitler.

Anyway..

1. It would have been far too late for them to have cancelled the protest yesterday. It would have been organised before the attack in Manchester.

2. They should cancel the protest this weekend, as a sign of compassion and condolence.

Common sense really

And yes, as has been said thousands of times, there is a problem within Islam. 100%. We just need to be very careful not to target all Muslims though.
 
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Otis

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  • Today at 11:09 AM
  • #219
Ccfcisparks said:
Christ almighty you are thick
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Thou shalt not use the Lord's name in vein
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 11:09 AM
  • #220
Otis said:
Going back a few posts (can't be arsed to find it), I would have thought that every poster on here would know that pretty much every single thread on the entire forum, ends up talking about something different to what the OP was all about.

Been happening since the beginning of time and occurs every single day.

Wasn't it NW who said you can start talking about anything, but pretty much every conversation ends up talking about Hitler.

Anyway..

1. It would have been far too late for them to have cancelled the protest yesterday. It would have been organised before the attack in Manchester.

2. They should cancel the protest this weekend, as a sign of compassion and condolence.

Common sense really

And yes, as has been said thousands of times, there is a problem within Islam. 100%. We just need to be very careful not to target all Muslims though.
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No it wouldn’t have been to late to cancel it last night you clown, also see them all attacking the police? Any comment on that or is that alright in your eyes
 
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Otis

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  • Today at 11:10 AM
  • #221
DT-R said:
I mean, take away the Manchester stabbing, its the biggest Jewish holiday of the year! Its almost like.it was purposefully arranged for that night to cause friction?

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The stabbing would almost certainly have been, you would have thought
 
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Sbarcher

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  • Today at 11:10 AM
  • #222
One of the dead men shot by the police and another in hospital also shot.
 
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PVA

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  • Today at 11:10 AM
  • #223
Otis said:
Wasn't it NW who said you can start talking about anything, but pretty much every conversation ends up talking about Hitler.
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Godwin's Law!

Godwin's law - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Today at 11:12 AM
  • #224
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Yeah, it is weird reading this thread.

Again, it comes down to the topic. People feel uncomfortable challenging Islam, particularly radical Islam, therefore turn it into a joke session.

The last one who wants to be the fun police, but this is pretty depressing reading.
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Say for arguments sake 1400 or so Muslims committed a crime and there’s 4m in the uk. So 0.00035% of the Muslim population. What action would you want to take?
You may have answered and I missed it
 

Otis

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  • Today at 11:13 AM
  • #225
SkyBlueDom26 said:
No it wouldn’t have been to late to cancel it last night you clown, also see them all attacking the police? Any comment on that or is that alright in your eyes
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Of course not. Any attack by people at the protest, on the police should face the full force of the law

Hope they arrested, every single one of them
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Today at 11:16 AM
  • #226
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Odd timing with what’s happened, surely they could have put last nights march off. Surely the thought ‘read the room’ comes to mind

Look forward to the sbt saddos on here defending that kind of behaviour against our police force
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Probably say they are protesting the deaths of family and children and women on a daily basis rather than just today

it’s all just fuckin horrendous
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 11:18 AM
  • #227
Sbarcher said:
One of the dead men shot by the police and another in hospital also shot.
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That’s grim for all concerned.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 11:20 AM
  • #228
Sky Blue Pete said:
Probably say they are protesting the deaths of family and children and women on a daily basis rather than just today

it’s all just fuckin horrendous
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Yeah well it’s called read the fucking room, also attacking our police force? Is that alright in your eyes because of what there protesting for?
 

mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Today at 11:20 AM
  • #229
Otis said:
And yes, as has been said thousands of times, there is a problem with religious extremism within Islam. 100%. We just need to be very careful not to target all Muslims though.
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Fixed.

this was terrorism, targeting Jews. Murdering people because of who they are. Sunni Muslims in Gaza are being slaughtered by a Zionist state while the world watches. It's pretty frightening.

How we talk about this stuff and how we treat people who don't seem to see things from the same starting point is probably the limit to which we can have any impact on what happens next.
 
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LarryGrayson

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  • Today at 11:22 AM
  • #230
Sky Blue Pete said:
Probably say they are protesting the deaths of family and children and women on a daily basis rather than just today

it’s all just fuckin horrendous
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its stoopid though gotta look at how it looks same as you wudnt go to a tommy robinson rally thinking it werent racist you wudnt go to these thinking it werent a bit wrong at the moment
 

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Today at 11:22 AM
  • #231
rob9872 said:
Agree with that on not being a direct reprisal, but if it was planned well in advance, then to plan for it on a highly religious day in the Jewish calendar (Yom Kippur) when they could have chosen any other day, so clearly is baiting them and therefore against Jews and not Israel.
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It may have been deliberate timing, i don't know, its not a date i'm aware of myself but i dont think anyone other than the organisers can know if it were deliberately set for Yom Kippur.
 

Marty

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  • Today at 11:23 AM
  • #232
Ccfcisparks said:
Christ almighty you are thick
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Empty vessels and all that. He's proper come out swinging this morning.
 

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Today at 11:24 AM
  • #233
Grendel said:
The police have asked for a postponement as have the government. The Jewish uk based community say every time it occurs attacks on their community increase.
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Havent studied the figures myself to know but id not be surprised if anti-semitic incidents increased alongside the protests. The horribe reality is that too many people, across the population, incorrectly conflate Israel and Judaism.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 11:24 AM
  • #234
Marty said:
Empty vessels and all that. He's proper come out swinging this morning.
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Made a complete embarrassment of himself, not denying he’s fine with blokes in women’s toilets is the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen on here
 
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rob9872

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  • Today at 11:26 AM
  • #235
Otis said:
1. It would have been far too late for them to have cancelled the protest yesterday. It would have been organised before the attack in Manchester.
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Agree, but the wider point is that if it was in support of Israel and not just anti-Jewish, then why was it planned to be on Yom Kippur? Taking yesterday's horrific event aside, it was still pre-planned to stir up hatred and animosity.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 11:27 AM
  • #236
rob9872 said:
Agree, but the wider point is that if it was in support of Israel and not just anti-Jewish, then why was it planned to be on Yom Kippur? Taking yesterday's horrific event aside, it was still pre-planned to stir up hatred and animosity.
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Rob it was all planned to stir up hate and could have been cancelled instantly, don’t try and get the saddos to agree with you on here, you’ll never be able to get them to see common sense! Hopefully they get banned after that shameful display last night and the night before
 
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PVA

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  • Today at 11:28 AM
  • #237
Sbarcher said:
One of the dead men shot by the police and another in hospital also shot.
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Seems that those two people were behind the door, trying to prevent the attacker from getting in, and the bullet(s?) must have gone through the door. Thankfully the gunshot wound of the one in hospital is not life threatening.

Incredibly brave from those two (and others of course).
 
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rob9872

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  • Today at 11:28 AM
  • #238
Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon said:
It may have been deliberate timing, i don't know, its not a date i'm aware of myself but i dont think anyone other than the organisers can know if it were deliberately set for Yom Kippur.
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I'd like to think anyone who is of the mindset to get from behind their keyboard and be so passionate to attend demonstration, would at least have done their research and be well aware of the significance of the day.
 

Marty

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  • Today at 11:30 AM
  • #239
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Made a complete embarrassment of himself, not denying he’s fine with blokes in women’s toilets is the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen on here
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He's an incredibly strange person and extremely condescending in almost everything he posts. Just put him on ignore and let him spout his bile into the abyss.
 

Otis

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  • Today at 11:31 AM
  • #240
rob9872 said:
Agree, but the wider point is that if it was in support of Israel and not just anti-Jewish, then why was it planned to be on Yom Kippur? Taking yesterday's horrific event aside, it was still pre-planned to stir up hatred and animosity.
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Oh, I thought it was because Israel had stopped a flotilla from delivering aid and food to Gaza. That was what the protest was supposed to be about.

That happend on the 1st (Wednesday) I believe, so the protest was arranged for the next day, the 2nd (yesterday)

Surely if that is the case, then the Israelis must have known there would then be protests on Yom Kippur.
 
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Today at 11:31 AM
  • #241
rob9872 said:
I'd like to think anyone who is of the mindset to get from behind their keyboard and be so passionate to attend demonstration, would at least have done their research and be well aware of the significance of the day.
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Maybe, i don't think it's that unrealistic to think they might not have though. Not that we'll ever know either way!
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 11:32 AM
  • #242
Otis said:
Oh, I thought it was because Israel had stopped a flotilla from delivering aid and food to Gaza. That was what the protest was supposed to be about.

That happend on the 1st (Wednesday) I believe, so the protest was arranged for the next day, the 2nd (yesterday)

Surely if that is the case, then the Israelis must have known there would then be protests on Yom Kippur.
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Common sense just doesn’t work with you does it Otis
 

SomersetSB

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  • Today at 11:32 AM
  • #243
I saw a placard someone was carrying at one of the protests last night saying”deport the racists and welcome the immigrants”
Pot and kettle come to mind!!
 

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Today at 11:33 AM
  • #244
Sbarcher said:
One of the dead men shot by the police and another in hospital also shot.
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Fucking hell, i know it goes with the territory to some extent but imagine being that policeman. Also the family of the people shot, horrific.
 
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rob9872

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  • Today at 11:34 AM
  • #245
Otis said:
Oh, I thought it was because Israel had stopped a flotilla from delivering aid and food to Gaza. That was what the protest was supposed to be about.

That happend on the 1st (Wednesday) I believe, so the protest was arranged for the next day, the 2nd (yesterday)

Surely if that is the case, then the Israelis must have known there would then be protests on Yom Kippur.
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Well if it was planned that quickly then of course it could be cancelled equally at pace. ?The rhetoric we're being fed is that this was planned a good time in advance, if that wasn't the case then there is no excuse for not preventing it in light of the attack.
 
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