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Manchester Airport Incident (3 Viewers)

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David O'Day

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  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #71
Nick said:
Think the kick was more damaging than the stamp to be fair.
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The issue with the stamp is the suspect was without any doubt not a danger and was under control.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #72
eastwoodsdustman said:
The officer showed a level of restraint as he was holding a gun in his hand. If he’d truly lost the plot he’d have pulled the trigger.
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It's ok, he only stamped on him and didn't murder him is a take
 
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eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #73
David O'Day said:
It's ok, he only stamped on him and didn't murder him is a take
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My point was that he hasn't really totally lost the plot has he? which really makes it worse in a way. However, we are seeing 30 seconds of a much bigger incident and I'm sure there is a lot more to it.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #74
Having now seen the video, I didn’t realise the guy had already been tasered before the policeman kicked and stamped on his head at close range.

Unfortunately, it’s not really surprising.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #75
David O'Day said:
It's ok, he only stamped on him and didn't murder him is a take
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I'm sure if a copper had done the same to Tommy Robinson people would have been creaming themselves.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #76
Nick said:
Think the kick was more damaging than the stamp to be fair.
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Only because he 'missed' the stamp. If he'd connected it could have killed him.

The bloke was no doubt a c**t, especially if he'd broken a woman's nose, but as a copper you can't be stamping on someone's head when they're prone on the floor having been tasered.

It's possible to think the bloke probably deserved it but also the copper went too far and should be sacked.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #77
PVA said:
Only because he 'missed' the stamp. If he'd connected it could have killed him.

The bloke was no doubt a c**t, especially if he'd broken a woman's nose, but as a copper you can't be stamping on someone's head when they're prone on the floor having been tasered.

It's possible to think the bloke probably deserved it but also the copper went too far and should be sacked.
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Again, it's hard to judge without seeing all of the video and context.

It could be he had been tasered and got up before to attack a copper so he didn't want to take the risk again.

It's impossible to say.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #78
If he'd twatted him while he was apparently fighting the police and breaking the policewoman's nose, fair enough. To stamp on the head of someone who is subdued is cowardly.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #79
Now been suspended from all duties. If it is appropriate now, it was appropriate in the immediate aftermath, and it is indicative of either weak leadership or an atrocious culture (possibly both).
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #80
Nick said:
I'm sure if a copper had done the same to Tommy Robinson people would have been creaming themselves.
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Again there is a Uno reverse for everything

My first thought to the comments on twitter and here was that ppl don't care about the guy getting stamped cos he's Muslim. If white guy I imagine more anger at copper

Just shows everyone sees it differently and neither viewpoints are 100 percent true!
 
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SkyBlueCharlie9

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #81
Nick said:
I'm sure if a copper had done the same to Tommy Robinson people would have been creaming themselves.
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You'll be screaming the world's gone WOKE next !!!! Why the need to bring up a prick like Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon who loves stoking racial divisions for his sympathisers/morons. What the policeman did not seem like 'policing' to me and he lost control and used extremely excessive force but its very very difficult to judge from this video the full context. Scary that he had a gun in his hands that he lost his shit as police training on gun use and self control is incredibly thorough. Police record on violence and institutional racism means this will quite rightly be scrutinised and I suspect he will lose his job. That's unfortunate as we sadly need strong officer's to deal with airport security and the attitude of lads drinking heavily at airports before going on hols.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #82
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
You'll be screaming the world's gone WOKE next !!!! Why the need to bring up a prick like Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon who loves stoking racial divisions for his sympathisers/morons. What the policeman did not seem like 'policing' to me and he lost control and used extremely excessive force but its very very difficult to judge from this video the full context. Scary that he had a gun in his hands that he lost his shit as police training on gun use and self control is incredibly thorough. Police record on violence and institutional racism means this will quite rightly be scrutinised and I suspect he will lose his job. That's unfortunate as we sadly need strong officer's to deal with airport security and the attitude of lads drinking heavily at airports before going on hols.
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Oh not at all. I'd happily watch a copper do that to him and I'd say the same.

I brought it up because it's just how there's double standards and I think you proved my point.
 

Diogenes

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #83
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
You'll be screaming the world's gone WOKE next !!!! Why the need to bring up a prick like Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon who loves stoking racial divisions for his sympathisers/morons. What the policeman did not seem like 'policing' to me and he lost control and used extremely excessive force but its very very difficult to judge from this video the full context. Scary that he had a gun in his hands that he lost his shit as police training on gun use and self control is incredibly thorough. Police record on violence and institutional racism means this will quite rightly be scrutinised and I suspect he will lose his job. That's unfortunate as we sadly need strong officer's to deal with airport security and the attitude of lads drinking heavily at airports before going on hols.
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sTeEpHeN yAxLeY lEnNoN
 

Diogenes

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #84
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
If he'd twatted him while he was apparently fighting the police and breaking the policewoman's nose, fair enough. To stamp on the head of someone who is subdued is cowardly.
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Use of force must be reasonable, proportional and justifiable. That's what we were trained.

It's very difficult to judge based on a short clip but it's hard to see how the actions of the policeman fit any of these criteria given that the suspect appears to have been tased already and is immobile.

Now, if there's additional context we can't see, such as he has already got up after being based and he is saying he has a bomb, and his friends are beating another copper to death behind him, then maybe?

There clearly is some context missing from the clip, but I really doubt it's going to be enough to mitigate the actions seen here.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #85
Nick said:
I'm sure if a copper had done the same to Tommy Robinson people would have been creaming themselves.
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No - just you and your other buddy in the ‘whataboutery squad’
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #86
Diogenes said:
Use of force must be reasonable, proportional and justifiable. That's what we were trained.

It's very difficult to judge based on a short clip but it's hard to see how the actions of the policeman fit any of these criteria given that the suspect appears to have been tased already and is immobile.

Now, if there's additional context we can't see, such as he has already got up after being based and he is saying he has a bomb, and his friends are beating another copper to death behind him, then maybe?

There clearly is some context missing from the clip, but I really doubt it's going to be enough to mitigate the actions seen here.
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A more appropriate course of action would be to grab his hands and cuff them behind his back to neutralise any threat, not kick him senseless!
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #87
Ian1779 said:
No - just you and your other buddy in the ‘whataboutery squad’
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I'd be the same if it was Tommy Robinson getting a slap for being a c**t.

It's not "whataboutery".
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #88
clint van damme said:
There's no argument over the stabbing though. There's disagreement on this issue.

Edit - ignore this remark, just been on the thread, arguments begun.
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Have to wait for people to wake up for the arguments

(And I don't mean in the WAKE UP AND SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING) sense!)
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #89
Sky Blue Pete said:
Do you not think he should be charged?
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Yep,and rehabilitate?
 

Bugsy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #90
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #91
wingy said:
Yep,and rehabilitate?
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Course
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #92
Nick said:
I'm sure if a copper had done the same to Tommy Robinson people would have been creaming themselves.
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no, not really no one deserves to have their head stamped on when they are defenceless
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #93
Mucca Mad Boys said:
In Germany all the police around football fans were geared up, looked ready to go and didn’t look like the kind of people you’d want to antagonise.

Our approach to policing is a too soft and I believe that has played a part in rising public disorder and violence in the streets. There’s no deterrent.
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The police are usually quite aggressive with football fans in this country and it causes as much harm as it solves
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #94
David O'Day said:
no, not really no one deserves to have their head stamped on when they are defenceless
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Plenty do.

Defenceless makes it sound like he's a little child, not somebody who has been hitting others.

Good to see the spin though
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #95
Nick said:
I'm sure if a copper had done the same to Tommy Robinson people would have been creaming themselves.
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Didn’t Tommy Robinson do it to a copper?
 

Diogenes

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #96
Nick said:
Plenty do.

Defenceless makes it sound like he's a little child, not somebody who has been hitting others.

Good to see the spin though
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The males have all been released without charge.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #97
Country full of wet farts
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #98
Kids lawyer says he has a cyst on the brain which could be related to this incident
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #99
Evo1883 said:
Kids lawyer says he has a cyst on the brain which could be related to this incident
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My thoughts when I heard it so I googled it, you can get a cyst on the brain from an impact injury.

(Add neurology to the list of my areas of expertise)
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #100
clint van damme said:
My thoughts when I heard it so I googled it, you can get a cyst on the brain from an impact injury.

(Add neurology to the list of my areas of expertise)
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Well I'm sure he will be paid millions then , the fucking scrote
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #101
clint van damme said:
My thoughts when I heard it so I googled it, you can get a cyst on the brain from an impact injury.

(Add neurology to the list of my areas of expertise)
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Need some of the forum physios who diagnosed Sakamoto with a 50% chance of death against PNE
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #102
Evo1883 said:
Well I'm sure he will be paid millions then , the fucking scrote
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The minute his ears stopped ringing he'll have started planning it, it's clear that's what's going on.
Got a family member who's a copper apparently
Who won't go into work because he fears for his safety, imagine they'll be a claim going in there as well.

To be fair, a lad I knew, great lad, sadly no longer with us, had a full on fist fight with his brother in the queue for check in Tenerife so even the best of us can lose it and start scrapping in the airport!
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #103
Evo1883 said:
Kids lawyer says he has a cyst on the brain which could be related to this incident
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Right..
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #104
clint van damme said:
My thoughts when I heard it so I googled it, you can get a cyst on the brain from an impact injury.

(Add neurology to the list of my areas of expertise)
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Is it an old video or has he gone private?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #105
Evo1883 said:
Well I'm sure he will be paid millions then , the fucking scrote
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All about the victim compo.
 
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