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mark82

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  • Apr 20, 2012
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Assuming Thorns contract expires, who do you think may take the helm as manager next year for a promotion push. I would like to see one of Lee Carsley or Clive Platt. If we could afford him the obvious choice would be Lee Clark for his league 1 experience.
 
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derbyskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #2
Given our finances, thats not a bad shout....assuming they would want it after seeing what sisu did to A T.
 
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banbury_skyblue

New Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #3
Clive Platt! No chance. Lee Clark would be ideal candidate but I doubt we will be able to afford wages or offer any real prospect of success. Carsley therefore is the front runner in my eyes.
 
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TommyAtkins

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  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #4
mark82 said:
Assuming Thorns contract expires, who do you think may take the helm as manager next year for a promotion push. I would like to see one of Lee Carsley or Clive Platt. If we could afford him the obvious choice would be Lee Clark for his league 1 experience.
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SISU didn't do anything to AT, other than task him to manage a football club with no resources. Which is fair enough when the club doesn't have any money.

Plenty of other managers cope with no resouces. I don't know why we expect CCFC or a CCFC manager to be special in some way.

We won't be an attractive option for any potential new manager.

Bobby Gould might be the only applicant
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #5
TommyAtkins said:
SISU didn't do anything to AT, other than task him to manage a football club with no resources. Which is fair enough when the club doesn't have any money.

Plenty of other managers cope with no resouces. I don't know why we expect CCFC or a CCFC manager to be special in some way.

We won't be an attractive option for any potential new manager.

Bobby Gould might be the only applicant
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I agree to an extent tommy, but the fact remains we have brought in less players both permanent and loans than any other team in the league.

IMO gould has been out of the game too long.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #6
Greg Abbott if it means we keep his old mucker Keogh. Paul Tisdale if he had just a bit of budget. It won't really matter if we still have these owners, though!
 
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derbyskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #7
Nonleagueherewecome said:
Greg Abbott if it means we keep his old mucker Keogh. Paul Tisdale if he had just a bit of budget. It won't really matter if we still have these owners, though!
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And therein lies the problem.
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #8
Lee Clark spent a lot of money in League 1 standards to get his team to where it was. If Thorn's contract isn't renewed then I would think it has to be Carsley - with these owners.
 
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castlevaleskyblue

New Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #9
If sisu still here it will just be whoever is cheapest as all they want to do is cut costs. Depends how much thorns comments last week have upset sisu. Either be him or Carsley no other candidates imo
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #10
Carsley could just turn out as another Thorne situation though, what makes people think he would do much better? Don't get me wrong he may well do a lot better or might also do worse.
 
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kingharvest

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  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #11
I don't get this fascination with Lee Clarke. He spent more money in league 1 than anyone else has done for ages. Ok he went on that massive unbeaten run which is a great achievement, but he never got them promoted, and considering he spent money and never got em up - why do people think that if he came into a club with no money he'd fair any better?

I think if Thorn goes, there are MUCH better options than Lee Clarke.
 
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Stoppercurtis

New Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #12
I think there is short list of one. Thorn

Stopper
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #13
Stoppercurtis said:
I think there is short list of one. Thorn

Stopper
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The whole club needs a fresh start, we need new backroom staff, we need new ideas. We need a plan B.
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #14
thorns contract does not need to be renewed - it is a rolling contract, ie at any point in time, he still has a 12 month contract left . It is a case of whether they keep him, sack him or move him back to scout

If they do not want to keep him, it would still make sense to give him his 12 month notice, and in the meantime retain him as scout
 
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castlevaleskyblue

New Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #15
Totally agree Nick, this summer is so important to the future of our club it needs to be done properly with a manager who has time, a proper budget and support. We need sisu out ASAP
 

ExmouthNeil

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  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #16
Nick said:
The whole club needs a fresh start, we need new backroom staff, we need new ideas. We need a plan B.
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Plan B has no football management, granted some good music but nothing in the football arena
 

Otis

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  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #17
Nick said:
Carsley could just turn out as another Thorne situation though, what makes people think he would do much better? Don't get me wrong he may well do a lot better or might also do worse.
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You think he might do worse than relegate us, Nick?

:thinking about:
 

PhilWasn'tBabb

New Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #18
Putting aside the issue of where he is any good or not, there is no way Lee Clark would come to us. At Huddersfield he has a bit of money to spend and the support of the board. SISU would have sold Rhodes in a heart beat.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #19
If the current owners/board remain it won't matter as they will employ someone inexperienced or just simply shit and give them no backing. If we get owners with a bit of ambition there are plenty of good options out there.
 

LastGarrison

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  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #20
I really don't understand the clamour for Carsley......
 

Otis

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  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #21
LastGarrison said:
I really don't understand the clamour for Carsley......
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It's the clamour of knowing that the odds are that we will recruit from within. That means Carsley, Rioch, Oggy or Sky Blue Sam.

Hardly a wide ranging choice now is it!
 
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Mumford and Daughter

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  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #22
LastGarrison said:
I really don't understand the clamour for Carsley......
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he has done well with the kids , saying that so has the ladies team
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #23
LastGarrison said:
I really don't understand the clamour for Carsley......
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I think it is more a reflection on the owners than the fans choice, that fans see him as one of a few realistic replacements for the manager.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #24
I think it'll be Thorn.

If not, i'd like to see Sean O'Driscoll or Mark Robins, with Carsley as assistant.
 
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TommyAtkins

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  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #25
CCFC said:
If the current owners/board remain it won't matter as they will employ someone inexperienced or just simply shit and give them no backing. If we get owners with a bit of ambition there are plenty of good options out there.
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I think by "ambition" you mean money to spend. I suspec that any new owner won't be allowed to spend money until the club gets it spending under control.

A new owner will have to cut costs in the same way as SISU.
 

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #26
Otis said:
It's the clamour of knowing that the odds are that we will recruit from within. That means Carsley, Rioch, Oggy or Sky Blue Sam.

Hardly a wide ranging choice now is it!
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Why not stick with Thorn then? At least he has now had a years experience under his belt. Learn from his mistakes and all that.

If Thorn goes are you telling me that there isn't a lower league manager out there with plenty of experience that isn't on a smaller wage than Thorn who would find managing a club like us attractive?
 
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TommyAtkins

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  • Apr 20, 2012
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LastGarrison said:
Why not stick with Thorn then? At least he has now had a years experience under his belt. Learn from his mistakes and all that.

If Thorn goes are you telling me that there isn't a lower league manager out there with plenty of experience that isn't on a smaller wage than Thorn who would find managing a club like us attractive?
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I think there are very few managers who would find this club attractive.

Bear in mind, we are losing money, don't own our own stadium and will have to cut costs next year - irrespective of owners. Dont forget some players will want to leave and attendances will fall.

Our expectation levels will be too high. Too many fans expect/think we will be/should be challenging for promotion.

We are a poisoned chalice. Again. Who is going to risk their reputation on us?

Bobby Gould is probably the only experienced manager out there who would apply.
 
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Mumford and Daughter

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  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #28
TommyAtkins said:
Bobby Gould is probably the only experienced manager out there who would apply.
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no way , theyd be plenbty out of work intersted

look at dave jones went to sheffield wed

wilson at sheffield utd

etc....
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #29
TommyAtkins said:
I think by "ambition" you mean money to spend. I suspec that any new owner won't be allowed to spend money until the club gets it spending under control.

A new owner will have to cut costs in the same way as SISU.
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Not really, SISU could have still shown ambition to stay in the league and cut costs at the same time imo.
Yea we do need to get our finance in order but the way SISU have gone about it is dreadful.

We have went into the last 2 games with around 7/8 senior players and only have about 10/11 senior players in the squad, that is radical by anyone's measurement.
 
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Chipfat

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #30
Megson anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #31
So why the hell would Carsley want this to be his first venture into football management?

Anyway, from a personal point of view I am sure there are some lower league managers who would relish the challenge of being at a big(ger) club.

I know next to fuck all about lower league football but the first club and manager I googled were Crewe, chap called Steve Davis had a few lower league jobs, seems to have done alright recently and is a Brummie to boot. You're telling me someone like him wouldn't be interested in the Cov job?

Also, some may see it as a poisoned challice but others may see it as a no lose situation. Everyone knows what shit we're in, have no money etc. so it's hardly going to damage their career if they do fuck all with fuck all is it?

I don't know the answer but I do know that on boards like these Thorn has been slagged off for making mistakes as a new manager and how we needed someone with more experience but now all of a sudden everyone wants to give Carsley the job who has no managerial experience at all.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #32
Mumford and Daughter said:
no way , theyd be plenbty out of work intersted

look at dave jones went to sheffield wed

wilson at sheffield utd

etc....
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Both clubs kept the bulk of there squad and added players to it. Nobody good/experienced will want to work with the current owners.
 

CovLis86

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #33
Stick with Thorn, if not, roll the dice for Tisdale. Save him from the turmoil at Exeter, he could be a great manager in the future.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #34
CCFC said:
Nobody good/experienced will want to work with the current owners.
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You would probably be surprised if we advertised it at the long list of applicants....
 
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TommyAtkins

New Member
  • Apr 20, 2012
  • #35
CCFC said:
Not really, SISU could have still shown ambition to stay in the league and cut costs at the same time imo.
Yea we do need to get our finance in order but the way SISU have gone about it is dreadful.

We have went into the last 2 games with around 7/8 senior players and only have about 10/11 senior players in the squad, that is radical by anyone's measurement.
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Radical it is. But what was the alternative. Spending more borrowed money?
 
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