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Match Thread Luton Town - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 26th Apr (20 Viewers)

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clint van damme

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,381
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Does anyone have confidence in getting the required result next week with Collins in goal because I don't
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Most of Middlesborough.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,382
Rodders1 said:
Not for me. Collins and Binks had played well. The former created the chance for Luton so takes more of the blame - but Binks attempt was fucking laughable - embarrassing.
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He wouldn't have needed to make the attempt if Collins had stayed on his line rather than come 15 yards to punch Kitching in the back of the head.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,383
stupot07 said:
I'm going to go back to we played 40 minutes with equal numbers and amassed just 3 shots.

0-13 11v11 (13 mins)
68- 96 10v10 (28 mins)
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That's cos you are as negative as they come tbh

Edit actuallys that's not unfair sorry.
I do think it's hard to change mentality so fast though. I think we got ob top and retained possession well for 10 mins after Walsh went off but then lost control again
 

stupot07

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,384
Blake said:
JDS was sent off on 13 minutes and there were 9 minutes of added time. Playing a man down takes more work, so it's no surprise we had less energy after Walsh was sent off.
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We made just 1 one change after Walsh's sending off and that was BTA in the 92nd minute after they scored. He could have freshened it up earlier.
 
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Rodders1

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,385
clint van damme said:
He wouldn't have needed to make the attempt if Collins had stayed on his line rather than come 15 yards to punch Kitching in the back of the head.
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I completely agree - still was a dog shit attempt of clearing the shot.
 

Chris1987

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,386
stupot07 said:
I'm going to go back to we played 40 minutes with equal numbers and amassed just 3 shots.

0-13 11v11 (13 mins)
68- 96 10v10 (28 mins)
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But the final 27 minutes were after a total of 64 minutes of playing with 10 men .
 

Tealeaf

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,387
For me that was just like watching Dabo missing that penalty at Wembley. Gutted
 
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stupot07

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,388
Chris1987 said:
But the final 27 minutes were after a total of 64 minutes of playing with 10 men .
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Again, the only sub he makes after Walsh gets sent off is BTA on 92 mins after we go 1-0 down.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,389
Chris1987 said:
But the final 27 minutes were after a total of 64 minutes of playing with 10 men .
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Cardiff looked far better than we did when they spent similar time with 10 men against us than we did against Luton
 
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WONDERLAMPS

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,390
stupot07 said:
Again, the only sub he makes after Walsh gets sent off is BTA on 92 mins after we go 1-0 down.
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Yep - a proactive manager makes the changes to try and push for the win - Frank just sat on his hands as he often does. Only thing really so far that frustrates me so much about him/edwards
 
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Jimmy87

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,391
Hard to take that one. Ultimately the early dismissal put any plan we may have had to bed. Undone by the high line once again. I get we have injuries but that set up is just not doing us any favours away from home.
By the time the numbers are evened up, the players are shattered.

I get that they are managing injuries with players, but having got to half time still in the game, i think we absolutely should have taken Simms off, he simply cannot cover the ground needed whilst managing an injury, and risking further injury problems to the squad.
I also get that they couldn't bring BTA on at half time as he is also being managed and probably has set minutes, that's fine, can totally understand they have injuries, however why could we not have taken Simms off and stuck Wright up top, maybe Paterson on the left, he's match fit and i'm sure capable of defending.
Also, once the numbers were evened up, could we not have made an attacking change a bit sooner?, only the staff will know.

Could say a lot about the ref but ultimately it could have ended with 9 each, Binks probably should have had 2 yellows.

What it all comes down to in the end though, is the amount of points lost this season by goalkeeping / defensive errors.
I don't blame Collins, i really don't, the decision to keep playing him when Wilson is fit, is not on him.
His mind must be a mess with the constant errors, clearly backing him and putting him back out there hasn't been working, so take him out, for his own sake.
I really like Lampard, and all the coaching staff, but i think there has been naivety at times this season. I think we may see the addition of a defensive coach in the summer.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,392
@shmmeee lampard said he has no complaints about the red because they are the rules .. what are your thoughts mate
 
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AJB1983

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,393
stupot07 said:
Again, the only sub he makes after Walsh gets sent off is BTA on 92 mins after we go 1-0 down.
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Options off the bench were reasonably limited though at least from an attacking perspective - Paterson maybe but they were a big team Luton. Rapha would have been a bit of a gamble.

I reckon there’s probably frustration that they took simms off and then Walsh gets sent off. He’d probably have stayed on if they knew that was coming. Could have gone two up the middle then.

anyways it’s gone. A lot of ifs, buts and maybes
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,394
AJB1983 said:
Options off the bench were reasonably limited though at least from an attacking perspective - Paterson maybe but they were a big team Luton. Rapha would have been a bit of a gamble.

I reckon there’s probably frustration that they took simms off and then Walsh gets sent off. He’d probably have stayed on if they knew that was coming. Could have gone two up the middle then.

anyways it’s gone. A lot of ifs, buts and maybes
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Agreed
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,395
Evo1883 said:
@shmmeee lampard said he has no complaints about the red because they are the rules .. what are your thoughts mate
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Yet bizarrely still going on about the hypothetical scenario that we wouldn't have lost last week had the other team been down to 10. Rapidly losing faith in Lampard.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,396
Evo1883 said:
@shmmeee lampard said he has no complaints about the red because they are the rules .. what are your thoughts mate
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Lampards wrong the refs are shite.
Lampard was right, the other night!
 
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JoeCCFCPUSB

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,397
Let's not forget Thomas, Dovin, Mason-Clarke, Torp and Milan didn't play.

Arguably 5 first team starters.

You then add Dasilva's red card in the mix, you have to say we played our hearts out.
Luton literally put every fucking thing on the line today, they had to.

I can only look at Simms and Collins and just shake my head, but I think at this point it's absolutely evident both players will be told they are surplus to requirements in the summer.


When I look at our squad, we aren't far away. We need a 1st choice keeper with Dovin out, we desperately need someone of that left hand side, that can run all day long like Milan. We desperately need a centre forward aswell thst has a first touch and can link up the play.

I se us needing 3 more players that are first team quality, when put like that, we really have to get this summer window right.

Simms, Collins, Asante must be moved on in the summer. If we can get 6 million quid then it's a bonus.

But we are so close to being a squad that's good enough to be promoted automatically.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,398
JoeCCFCPUSB said:
Let's not forget Thomas, Dovin, Mason-Clarke, Torp and Milan didn't play.

Arguably 5 first team starters.

You then add Dasilva's red card in the mix, you have to say we played our hearts out.
Luton literally put every fucking thing on the line today, they had to.

I can only look at Simms and Collins and just shake my head, but I think at this point it's absolutely evident both players will be told they are surplus to requirements in the summer.


When I look at our squad, we aren't far away. We need a 1st choice keeper with Dovin out, we desperately need someone of that left hand side, that can run all day long like Milan. We desperately need a centre forward aswell thst has a first touch and can link up the play.

I se us needing 3 more players that are first team quality, when put like that, we really have to get this summer window right.

Simms, Collins, Asante must be moved on in the summer. If we can get 6 million quid then it's a bonus.

But we are so close to being a squad that's good enough to be promoted automatically.
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We really aren’t, we’ll end up about 25-30 points off second place.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 26, 2025
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Macca

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,400
JoeCCFCPUSB said:
Let's not forget Thomas, Dovin, Mason-Clarke, Torp and Milan didn't play.

Arguably 5 first team starters.

You then add Dasilva's red card in the mix, you have to say we played our hearts out.
Luton literally put every fucking thing on the line today, they had to.

I can only look at Simms and Collins and just shake my head, but I think at this point it's absolutely evident both players will be told they are surplus to requirements in the summer.


When I look at our squad, we aren't far away. We need a 1st choice keeper with Dovin out, we desperately need someone of that left hand side, that can run all day long like Milan. We desperately need a centre forward aswell thst has a first touch and can link up the play.

I se us needing 3 more players that are first team quality, when put like that, we really have to get this summer window right.

Simms, Collins, Asante must be moved on in the summer. If we can get 6 million quid then it's a bonus.

But we are so close to being a squad that's good enough to be promoted automatically.
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Agree with most but in my opinion miles off a top 2 side
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,401
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We really aren’t, we’ll end up about 25-30 points off second place.
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Absolute madness talking about an autos challenge.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,402
stupot07 said:
We made just 1 one change after Walsh's sending off and that was BTA in the 92nd minute after they scored. He could have freshened it up earlier.
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Midfield was fucked, Allen on for A N other definitely
 
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RoysterE17

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,403
How are we still in 6th 🫣 thought borough would of nicked it off us by now! Must win vs boro!! Hopefully millwall don't nick it
 
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JoeCCFCPUSB

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,404
Macca said:
Agree with most but in my opinion miles off a top 2 side
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I think it entirely depends on recruitment, if the club go and recruit 3/ 4 players that are top draw, we really have a chance.

I've been a massive critic of our defenders, but Kitching for me has really impressed of late.

If we had someone on that left hand side that was as mobile as Milan/Sakamoto and had the work rate to want to track back and help out, it would make a huge difference.

The goalkeeping situation is honestly destroying us and Simms playing is another massive negative. The guy does absolutely nothing and it's bad enough with Haji's lack of work rate, but at least Haj actually scores goals.

I genuinely believe if the board and scouting really get it right in the summer we can make a serious push.
 
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AJB1983

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,405
JoeCCFCPUSB said:
I think it entirely depends on recruitment, if the club go and recruit 3/ 4 players that are top draw, we really have a chance.

I've been a massive critic of our defenders, but Kitching for me has really impressed of late.

If we had someone on that left hand side that was as mobile as Milan/Sakamoto and had the work rate to want to track back and help out, it would make a huge difference.

The goalkeeping situation is honestly destroying us and Simms playing is another massive negative. The guy does absolutely nothing and it's bad enough with Haji's lack of work rate, but at least Haj actually scores goals.

I genuinely believe if the board and scouting really get it right in the summer we can make a serious push.
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Simms is feeding off scraps in terms of chances though - fair enough people can go on about movement and work rate. But at Plymouth Simms had one chance and got it on target and it led to goal. Today he had nothing.

wright is a striker that plays on the wing - so I think naturally tracking back to protect the full back isn’t something that’s in his make up - that said he’s had enough time playing out there to get used to it.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,406
Silver linings and all that…. If results go the way I want them, Preston and Cardiff can get relegated. Will be glad to see the back of them
 

clint van damme

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,407
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Silver linings and all that…. If results go the way I want them, Preston and Cardiff can get relegated. Will be glad to see the back of them
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After today I want Luton gone.
My ambivalence towards them is over, send the fuckers down!
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,408
England women's looking like they're gonna tear the French a new one in the egg chasing.
Erm, every cloud, maybe?
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,409
Strangely Luton’s late goal hasn’t made any real difference to what’s needed in the last game
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Apr 26, 2025
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oscillatewildly said:
England women's looking like they're gonna tear the French a new one in the egg chasing.
Erm, every cloud, maybe?
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,411
Grendel said:
Strangely Luton’s late goal hasn’t made any real difference to what’s needed in the last game
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Yes just said that on another thread. I feel slightly better now
 
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skybluecb

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,412
Still in top 6 going into last game,still in our hands
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,413
Grendel said:
Strangely Luton’s late goal hasn’t made any real difference to what’s needed in the last game
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To add a little more context - The one legged arse kicking contest that is the 'race' to claim 6th spot, goes to the final day.
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Apr 26, 2025
  • #2,414
Anyone fancy a pint
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Apr 26, 2025
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skybluecb said:
Still in top 6 going into last game,still in our hands
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Yeah, but who's hands ultimately?
 
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