New evidence or argument according to this: Lucy Letby application received by Criminal Cases Review Commission - Criminal Cases Review Commission
New evidence or argument according to this: Lucy Letby application received by Criminal Cases Review Commission - Criminal Cases Review Commission
According to the air embolism expert (in the Times interview above) Letby's defence team asked him to review the way the prosecution had used his studies during the original case. When he saw how it had been used, he asked Letby's team if he could review the evidence with an independent panel.
It's weird how this case seems to have been taken up by both some of the most serious and storied institutions in medicine and journalism, and also some of the world's biggest lunatics.
The conviction was based on various pieces of evidence, yes. All of it disputed to various degrees, as you might expect - in the case of this new independent panel, they dispute all seven of the murders. But if Letby's defence team can show the jury was misled on the first two murders that supposedly took place, would that be material grounds for a retrial? (It's a genuine question, I don't know the answer)
There were no witnesses to anything though was there? There was circumstantial evidence that Letby had been on duty.
Not what was reported and proves my point about the media reporting around this really.
They are experts who may well be called as expert witnesses. Certainly more than interested third parties and, as people likely to be giving evidence, they will obviously have access to the evidence.
They’re not lawyers or people who have special access other than what the defence has chosen to share with them. They’ve not disproven the substance of the case and one of them has already been rejected at appeal.
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Lucy Letby supporters plan 'speed dating' event after twisted birthday party
Supporters who believe convicted murderer Lucy Letby is innocent are considering holding a Valentine's 'speed dating' night after throwing the killer nurse a birthday party last month
www.mirror.co.uk
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Lucy Letby supporters plan 'speed dating' event after twisted birthday party
Supporters who believe convicted murderer Lucy Letby is innocent are considering holding a Valentine's 'speed dating' night after throwing the killer nurse a birthday party last monthwww.mirror.co.uk
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Lucy Letby supporters plan 'speed dating' event after twisted birthday party
Supporters who believe convicted murderer Lucy Letby is innocent are considering holding a Valentine's 'speed dating' night after throwing the killer nurse a birthday party last monthwww.mirror.co.uk
I have previousky suggested this could be a cover up by the hospital, who have just lost an employment tribunal when the CEO ( a medic) won a case for constructive dismissal following her whistleblowing - which is supposed to be protected in the NHS.
Evidence was destroyed by the Trust
www.bma.org.uk
The link below gives a very good reason for wanting to pin the blame for babies deaths on criminality rather the poor standards of service.
Evidence was destroyed by the Trust
BMA responds to Dr Susan Gilby tribunal judgment - BMA media centre - BMA
Media release from the BMA
www.bma.org.uk
The link below gives a very good reason for wanting to pin the blame for babies deaths on criminality rather the poor standards of service.
Urgent need for legal reform as costs of NHS claims rise again, MDU says - The MDU
Both the number and costs of NHS claims in England rose in 2022/23
www.themdu.com
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Well, well, well
news.sky.com
Three members of Lucy Letby hospital's senior leadership team arrested
An investigation into gross negligence manslaughter began in March of this year - in addition to one probing potential corporate manslaughter, which started in October 2023.
Interesting parallel in how Letby was treated, she was arrested and name released to the media immediately. Whereas the senior executives and clinicians are provided (rightly) with anonymity at this point.
I used to work as a complaints officer for PALS at some unnamed hospitals and I can guarantee you stuff like this could happen a lot more frequently than is reported. The amount of covering up that goes on is quite scary. The fail safes are easily overridden by the lowest of staff, so you can imagine how easily Execs get away with accountability.
In my experience the executive class in this country are universally about covering their own arses first and foremost
They close ranks over everything and make it impossible to get information. When my Dad went into hospital, which was peak covid, he went in with a no-resus order.
As it was peak covid we couldn't visit but the first couple of days we spoke to him on the phone and then there was a sudden deterioration and since then he's basically had no idea what is going on, where he is etc. The only explanation we were ever given for the sudden change was that it was part of his dementia triggered by a change of environment, which obviously doesn't explain why he was fine the first few days.
Fast forward to April this year and dropped in with some paperwork I was cc'd on, possibly by mistake, was a mention of him receiving CPR and defibrillation while in hospital which ties in exactly with the time he completely changed.
I've spent the weeks since I received that trying to get more information but I either get no response or told to contact someone different. Potentially if they'd have done what they were supposed to he wouldn't have been suffering in a care home for the last few years, not to mention the tens of thousands its cost me to have him in there.
So sorry to hear that, and I hope he is on the mend soon. (As best he can) I'm not sure it'll help but it's very common. I was at PALS during covid and trying to collate any information from that time is most definitely pissing in the wind. I had difficulty obtaining it so god knows how it must be for a family member. I worked on the elderly side so as you can imagine Covid wise it was a minefield. What I would say is don't give up as it does get sorted eventually, but I imagine a lot of folk would just give up which I'm sure some trusts hope for
Thanks mate, not much chance of him getting better. We're in a very slow cycle of basically waiting for him to die while he has zero quality of life. Now into year 4 of 3 months to live, 6 months max.
Think the whole system is designed to make people give up. You wait months, if not years, for a reply to something and then it will say something like 'if you don't respond within 7 days we will consider the matter closed'
Dropped you a direct message buddyThanks mate, not much chance of him getting better. We're in a very slow cycle of basically waiting for him to die while he has zero quality of life. Now into year 4 of 3 months to live, 6 months max.
Think the whole system is designed to make people give up. You wait months, if not years, for a reply to something and then it will say something like 'if you don't respond within 7 days we will consider the matter closed'
Prosecutors considering further charges against Lucy Letby
The Crown Prosecution Service is considering a "full file" of evidence submitted by Cheshire Police.
www.bbc.com
A lot of supposition here and whilst I don't doubt the cover-ups and Briles' own personal examples (and I'm particularly sad to read the personal experience of chiefdave) people are not infallible, they make mistakes and it sometimes costs people lives. There is a risk.
Whilst I'm not talking this specific of Letby, that's all been done to death, lots of mistakes will happen and my view is they are covered not for exec reasons, but because people are so quick to blame someone when there is no mistake too. Always looking for a blame and often followed by a claim. Genuine mistakes by good people who have joined the profession as much to help as for a career, hung out to dry and made a scapegoat. Modern society imo is as guilty for the cover ups because nobody is afforded the option of genuine human error any longer.
Whilst I'm not talking this specific of Letby, that's all been done to death, lots of mistakes will happen and my view is they are covered not for exec reasons, but because people are so quick to blame someone when there is no mistake too. Always looking for a blame and often followed by a claim. Genuine mistakes by good people who have joined the profession as much to help as for a career, hung out to dry and made a scapegoat. Modern society imo is as guilty for the cover ups because nobody is afforded the option of genuine human error any longer.