shmmeee
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New evidence or argument according to this: Lucy Letby application received by Criminal Cases Review Commission - Criminal Cases Review Commission
Letby's legal team has applied to the Criminal Cases Review Commission to have the case go back to appeal - that can't happen unless new evidence is presented, and that's what's happened today.
According to the air embolism expert (in the Times interview above) Letby's defence team asked him to review the way the prosecution had used his studies during the original case. When he saw how it had been used, he asked Letby's team if he could review the evidence with an independent panel.How did they get access to the evidence?
It's weird how this case seems to have been taken up by both some of the most serious and storied institutions in medicine and journalism, and also some of the world's biggest lunatics.Did I imagine it or were there people from a Facebook group in pictures celebrating her birthday in a pub? That's fucking weird. Check their hard drives.
According to the air embolism expert (in the Times interview above) Letby's defence team asked him to review the way the prosecution had used his studies during the original case. When he saw how it had been used, he asked Letby's team if he could review the evidence with an independent panel.
The conviction was based on various pieces of evidence, yes. All of it disputed to various degrees, as you might expect - in the case of this new independent panel, they dispute all seven of the murders. But if Letby's defence team can show the jury was misled on the first two murders that supposedly took place, would that be material grounds for a retrial? (It's a genuine question, I don't know the answer)And did the case rest on his evidence?
The point I’m driving at here is that it wasn’t just that paper that she was convicted on but witness statements as well. The defence seems to be focusing on this (they would wouldn’t they?) but the conviction wasn’t based on this alone.
And did the case rest on his evidence?
The point I’m driving at here is that it wasn’t just that paper that she was convicted on but witness statements as well. The defence seems to be focusing on this (they would wouldn’t they?) but the conviction wasn’t based on this alone.
There were no witnesses to anything though was there? There was circumstantial evidence that Letby had been on duty.
Wes ever the opportunist. Talks utter shite as well, NHS leadership is exceedingly white.
Streeting went on to say he believed addressing those challenges was a political fight he was willing to take on, but added that he would “also need the profession to help”.
But he added: “Sometimes there are some really daft things being done in the name of equality, diversity and inclusion, which [have] undermined the cause. For example, there was one member of NHS staff who was merrily tweeting a job ad online and saying part of her practice was anti-whiteness.”
They are experts who may well be called as expert witnesses. Certainly more than interested third parties and, as people likely to be giving evidence, they will obviously have access to the evidence.But they’re just interested third parties, not the appeals panel or people with access to the evidence?
Wrong.This is still just randoms who haven’t seen all the evidence and are going of media reports right?
They are experts who may well be called as expert witnesses. Certainly more than interested third parties and, as people likely to be giving evidence, they will obviously have access to the evidence.
Susie beever!!! Fnar fnarHope a few on here find love…
Lucy Letby supporters plan 'speed dating' event after twisted birthday party
Supporters who believe convicted murderer Lucy Letby is innocent are considering holding a Valentine's 'speed dating' night after throwing the killer nurse a birthday party last monthwww.mirror.co.uk
Like I was saying!Hope a few on here find love…
Lucy Letby supporters plan 'speed dating' event after twisted birthday party
Supporters who believe convicted murderer Lucy Letby is innocent are considering holding a Valentine's 'speed dating' night after throwing the killer nurse a birthday party last monthwww.mirror.co.uk
In my experience the executive class in this country are universally about covering their own arses first and foremostI used to work as a complaints officer for PALS at some unnamed hospitals and I can guarantee you stuff like this could happen a lot more frequently than is reported. The amount of covering up that goes on is quite scary. The fail safes are easily overridden by the lowest of staff, so you can imagine how easily Execs get away with accountability.
I used to work as a complaints officer for PALS at some unnamed hospitals and I can guarantee you stuff like this could happen a lot more frequently than is reported. The amount of covering up that goes on is quite scary. The fail safes are easily overridden by the lowest of staff, so you can imagine how easily Execs get away with accountability.
They close ranks over everything and make it impossible to get information. When my Dad went into hospital, which was peak covid, he went in with a no-resus order.I used to work as a complaints officer for PALS at some unnamed hospitals and I can guarantee you stuff like this could happen a lot more frequently than is reported. The amount of covering up that goes on is quite scary. The fail safes are easily overridden by the lowest of staff, so you can imagine how easily Execs get away with accountability.
So sorry to hear that, and I hope he is on the mend soon. (As best he can) I'm not sure it'll help but it's very common. I was at PALS during covid and trying to collate any information from that time is most definitely pissing in the wind. I had difficulty obtaining it so god knows how it must be for a family member. I worked on the elderly side so as you can imagine Covid wise it was a minefield. What I would say is don't give up as it does get sorted eventually, but I imagine a lot of folk would just give up which I'm sure some trusts hope forThey close ranks over everything and make it impossible to get information. When my Dad went into hospital, which was peak covid, he went in with a no-resus order.
As it was peak covid we couldn't visit but the first couple of days we spoke to him on the phone and then there was a sudden deterioration and since then he's basically had no idea what is going on, where he is etc. The only explanation we were ever given for the sudden change was that it was part of his dementia triggered by a change of environment, which obviously doesn't explain why he was fine the first few days.
Fast forward to April this year and dropped in with some paperwork I was cc'd on, possibly by mistake, was a mention of him receiving CPR and defibrillation while in hospital which ties in exactly with the time he completely changed.
I've spent the weeks since I received that trying to get more information but I either get no response or told to contact someone different. Potentially if they'd have done what they were supposed to he wouldn't have been suffering in a care home for the last few years, not to mention the tens of thousands its cost me to have him in there.
Thanks mate, not much chance of him getting better. We're in a very slow cycle of basically waiting for him to die while he has zero quality of life. Now into year 4 of 3 months to live, 6 months max.So sorry to hear that, and I hope he is on the mend soon. (As best he can) I'm not sure it'll help but it's very common. I was at PALS during covid and trying to collate any information from that time is most definitely pissing in the wind. I had difficulty obtaining it so god knows how it must be for a family member. I worked on the elderly side so as you can imagine Covid wise it was a minefield. What I would say is don't give up as it does get sorted eventually, but I imagine a lot of folk would just give up which I'm sure some trusts hope for
Dropped you a direct message buddyThanks mate, not much chance of him getting better. We're in a very slow cycle of basically waiting for him to die while he has zero quality of life. Now into year 4 of 3 months to live, 6 months max.
Think the whole system is designed to make people give up. You wait months, if not years, for a reply to something and then it will say something like 'if you don't respond within 7 days we will consider the matter closed'
A lot of supposition here and whilst I don't doubt the cover-ups and Briles' own personal examples (and I'm particularly sad to read the personal experience of chiefdave) people are not infallible, they make mistakes and it sometimes costs people lives. There is a risk.
Whilst I'm not talking this specific of Letby, that's all been done to death, lots of mistakes will happen and my view is they are covered not for exec reasons, but because people are so quick to blame someone when there is no mistake too. Always looking for a blame and often followed by a claim. Genuine mistakes by good people who have joined the profession as much to help as for a career, hung out to dry and made a scapegoat. Modern society imo is as guilty for the cover ups because nobody is afforded the option of genuine human error any longer.
She's going to face further charges I think, how bizarre!
You mean such crazy theories as the person who's study the CPS used saying that it doesn't show what the CPS says it does?Almost like she’s a murderer and people are taken in by a pretty face and a conspiracy theory online. Who would think?
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