Lucy Letby (3 Viewers)

Saddlebrains · Nov 12, 2020

If true, which it seems to be judging by the swiftness of the CPS, must be up there with the worst crimes ever commited in this country

hill83 · Nov 12, 2020

Makes me feel sick. The trust you put in these people. Even if it goes wrong you accept it, why else can you do? Imagine knowing she was about if you had a baby die.

Skybluefaz · Nov 12, 2020

Yeah absolutely vile to think someone could do that

clint van damme · Nov 12, 2020

Looking at the names of the victims it looks like there might have been a set of twins. Absolutely heart breaking.

Nick · Nov 12, 2020

I just don't get this sort of shit, it is beyond evil. Harmless, innocent babies.

I hope she gets tortured every day in prison and has the worst pain imaginable 24/7.

Sky Blue Pete · Nov 12, 2020

Heartbreaking

chiefdave · Nov 12, 2020

Can't get my head round this sort of thing. Its so far beyond comprehension its hard to even process it.

BBC article says she has been arrested twice previously as part of investigations into deaths at the hospital but clearly was never charged. Can't imagine the police keep targeting one person if they aren't certain thats the right person so lets hope she gets the most severe punishment possible this time.

SBT · Nov 12, 2020

Nick said:
I just don't get this sort of shit, it is beyond evil. Harmless, innocent babies.

I hope she gets tortured every day in prison and has the worst pain imaginable 24/7.

In case anyone thought he was going soft

Saddlebrains · Nov 12, 2020

Hasnt even taken a plea ffs. Scum

stay_up_skyblues · Nov 12, 2020

Yes third time she has been pinched over it so they must be pretty sure. Beyond belief and the scourge of humanity, if you can even call her that.

Lots of female prisoners, especially those with children, I’m sure would have a number of things they’d like to do to her. Sadly she’ll get the Rose West/Myra Hindley treatment and a cushty little area to herself for her own safety.

RegTheDonk · Nov 12, 2020

Horrendus. I remember Beverly Allitt and thought at the time, what kind of woman could do something like that, thankfully that'll surely never happen again. Such sympathy to the parents.

Macca · Nov 13, 2020

Just shoot it

Grendel · Nov 13, 2020

Macca said:
Just shoot it

Careful that costs the taxpayer more apparently

Sky Blue Pete · Nov 13, 2020

She’s not guilty yet

Grendel · Nov 13, 2020

Sky Blue Pete said:
She’s not guilty yet

That is true but I suspect this is an open and shut case. Another £11 million no doubt to stay in her hotel

Ian1779 · Nov 13, 2020

Grendel said:
That is true but I suspect this is an open and shut case. Another £11 million no doubt to stay in her hotel

So what would you do?

Grendel · Nov 13, 2020

Ian1779 said:
So what would you do?

If guilty execute her Beverley Allitt has spent 30 years inside and is only 52 - what is the point

Ian1779 · Nov 13, 2020

Grendel said:
If guilty execute her

In this case i would agree and the same in most clear cases of murder too.

Grendel · Nov 13, 2020

Ian1779 said:
In this case i would agree and the same in most clear cases of murder too.

Whole life tariff prisoners are a pointless cost. Brady wanted to die and we spent £5 million in medical fees and legal challenges to keep him alive

Ian1779 · Nov 13, 2020

Grendel said:
Whole life tariff prisoners are a pointless cost. Brady wanted to die and we spent £5 million in medical fees and legal challenges to keep him alive

I don’t know much about why the death penalty was abolished to be honest.

fernandopartridge · Nov 13, 2020

Grendel said:
Whole life tariff prisoners are a pointless cost. Brady wanted to die and we spent £5 million in medical fees and legal challenges to keep him alive

I am not an advocate of the death penalty but think maybe whole life term convicts are given the option to be executed

dutchman · Nov 13, 2020

Grendel said:
Brady wanted to die

In my book that was a good reason for keeping him alive. Also there was a possibility he could have eventually revealed the whereabouts of the missing graves which might have given the parents of his victims some closure.

Saddlebrains · Nov 14, 2020

I dont see why in this day and age we don't have the death penalty. The advances
of DNA and fine tooth comb evidence, phone info etc usually puts the conviction beyond all doubt.

Id put nonses on the execute list also, however feel the best punishment for them is to be locked in a room for 30 minutes with the father of thier victim and see if they walk out. I cant fight sleep but if anyone interfered with my 2 id happily do time physically removing their testicles and kneecaps

SBT · Nov 14, 2020

What is it about certain crimes that makes people want to compete to describe all the gruesome ways they would deal with the criminals?

Like, we get it, you’re opposed to child murder and paedophilia, we all are, there aren’t any special prizes for having the most medieval response.

Ian1779 · Nov 14, 2020

SBT said:
What is it about certain crimes that makes people want to compete to describe all the gruesome ways they would deal with the criminals?

Like, we get it, you’re opposed to child murder and paedophilia, we all are, there aren’t any special prizes for having the most medieval response.

I think it’s the thought of transferring it to a personal situation involving our loved ones.

SBT · Nov 14, 2020

Ian1779 said:
I think it’s the thought of transferring it to a personal situation involving our loved ones.

I’ve got family too - does it mean I love them less if I haven’t devised my own personal torture program for people who try to hurt them or should I start researching the best vigilante methods?

Grendel · Nov 14, 2020

SBT said:
What is it about certain crimes that makes people want to compete to describe all the gruesome ways they would deal with the criminals?

Like, we get it, you’re opposed to child murder and paedophilia, we all are, there aren’t any special prizes for having the most medieval response.

An injection would be fine. In the end it spares the various torture methods they will get in prison or in the case of the delightful Robert John Maudsley spare other prisoners having their brains removed from their skull in a prison cell.

Sky Blue Pete · Nov 14, 2020

I’m against state sanctioned murder. It demeans us as a society

Just my opinion

shmmeee · Nov 14, 2020

Sky Blue Pete said:
I’m against state sanctioned murder. It demeans us as a society

Just my opinion

Same. Don’t fancy giving government the ability to murder citizens. And it’s giving in to our basest urges. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Easy to say “do it for clear cut cases”, but the justice system is pretty binary guilty/not guilty.

All for allowing euthanasia mind. If anyone of sound mind decides they don’t want to live let them go.

Ian1779 · Nov 14, 2020

How would people feel about allowing convicted lifers for murder to be euthanised if they chose to?

Nick · Nov 14, 2020

Ian1779 said:
How would people feel about allowing convicted lifers for murder to be euthanised if they chose to?

All for it.

Grendel · Nov 14, 2020

Ian1779 said:
How would people feel about allowing convicted lifers for murder to be euthanised if they chose to?

no I wouldn’t actually

Johnnythespider · Nov 14, 2020

Ian1779 said:
How would people feel about allowing convicted lifers for murder to be euthanised if they chose to?

So the problem with this as i see it is we allow convicted murderers to get out of the punishment handed down by the courts, i would want them to rot in prison and the thought of them pleading for death but not getting their wish would bring me comfort.
I don't think cost is a good enough reason to execute somebody or where does that end, somebody who spends their life going in and out of prison for less serious crimes being executed because of the cost of all the court cases and putting them up at her majesty's pleasure, infanticide is the worst of crimes to reason with, but human history is littered with it, past civilisations regularly using it to weed out the weakest born, this woman is clearly insane but our revulsion at her crimes (if proved) show how far human civilisation has come, reintroducing the death penalty would be a backward step i think.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Nov 14, 2020

Ian1779 said:
How would people feel about allowing convicted lifers for murder to be euthanised if they chose to?

No problem with it UNLESS there are victims who've yet to be found and the loved ones won't allow it until they've revealed where they are and the remains found and identified.

Ian1779 · Nov 14, 2020

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
No problem with it UNLESS there are victims who've yet to be found and the loved ones won't allow it until they've revealed where they are and the remains found and identified.

I think that is an important point. The victims families must have their needs taken in account.

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