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commissioner_gordon

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  • Sunday at 8:57 AM
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Does anyone else find our obsession with long throws a bit embarrassing?

I have two reasons. It doesn't suit our style of play as we have so many players who are really good on the ball.

Secondly - we should be better than that, especially against poor teams like Hull. Their defenders just lapped it up!
 
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Hobo

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  • Sunday at 9:01 AM
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Plus we rarely get it over the first defender.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Sunday at 9:01 AM
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noticed they’ve moved the pitch in aswell, looks like we’ll be using it a lot
 
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covcity4life

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  • Sunday at 9:01 AM
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No it's a good weapon and even when it's not working it still gives the opposition something to think about
 
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Sbarcher

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  • Sunday at 9:02 AM
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Need to vary it by going short into space.
 
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Shannerz

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  • Sunday at 9:03 AM
  • #6
covcity4life said:
No it's a good weapon and even when it's not working it still gives the opposition something to think about
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It's a good weapon to use from time to time, not as a matter of course.

Mix it up.
 
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Deity

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  • Sunday at 9:04 AM
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I’d sooner throw it in the mixer than back to the full bs k who knocks it back to the centre half who knocks it 10 yards to Grimes but now we are on the halfway line ….
 
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Snaily

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  • Sunday at 9:04 AM
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quinn1971 said:
noticed they’ve moved the pitch in aswell, looks like we’ll be using it a lot
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Haven’t they moved the hoardings back rather than the pitch in?

Same effect though for throws
 
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quinn1971

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  • Sunday at 9:13 AM
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Snaily said:
Haven’t they moved the hoardings back rather than the pitch in?

Same effect though for throws
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maybe that was it then,
 

larry_david

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  • Sunday at 9:14 AM
  • #10
We wont see it again anyway
 
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Potbellypig

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  • Sunday at 9:17 AM
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There must be some stats out there for goals/chances created on long throws v short throws against Hull. Safe to assume that's the reason we opted for that tactic yesterday.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Sunday at 9:46 AM
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A few of them yesterday were his longest yet.

If only we had a big, gangly 6'3 striker in the box..
 
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Nick

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  • Sunday at 10:48 AM
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They were all pretty pointless as they float in for the keeper to catch
 

fatso

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  • Sunday at 10:58 AM
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commissioner_gordon said:
Does anyone else find our obsession with long throws a bit embarrassing?

I have two reasons. It doesn't suit our style of play as we have so many players who are really good on the ball.

Secondly - we should be better than that, especially against poor teams like Hull. Their defenders just lapped it up!
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Yea it was bloody crazy when we have BTA up front and they have two huge centre halves heading everything away for fun.

We should of played it short and looked to work the ball toTorp for a shot from the edge of the box. But that would mean playing to our strengths and we are reluctant to do that.
 

Bad Boy

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  • Sunday at 11:08 AM
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I've noticed MvE throwing the ball infield fairly long distances for someone in space to gather and run forwards which is a better option rather than just launching it into the penalty box.
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • Sunday at 11:13 AM
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Nick said:
They were all pretty pointless as they float in for the keeper to catch
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I disagree, I thought they looked longer and flatter than last year, and I don't remember the keeper catching (m)any, but maybe I'm wrong.
 
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Bad Boy

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  • Sunday at 11:38 AM
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pusbccfc said:
A few of them yesterday were his longest yet.

If only we had a big, gangly 6'3 striker in the box..
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It's not about having a big gangly six plus footer in the box, we do not attack the ball enough either in the air or otherwise in ALL areas of the pitch.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sunday at 11:43 AM
  • #18
Dasilva should look at Brau with throw ins he gets it straight into play and we can get moving Dasilva takes ages and then throws it to the wrong player.

MVE we have to mix it up.

Corners as soon as the ref has got involved in the wrestling in the box it’s almost pointless putting it straight into the box as the slightest fall he is giving a free kick.
 
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Marty

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  • Sunday at 11:45 AM
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Someone had a free header from one yesterday. All we seem to do is get the ball out wide and lump it in. It suits our dreadful style of play down to a tee.
 

Houchens Head

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  • Sunday at 11:49 AM
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Long throws used to work well, back in the day, when Aaron Gunnerson took them!
 
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SkyBlueBarmy84

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  • Sunday at 11:50 AM
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Early in the first half, Lampard told Kitching to bring MVE over to take a long throw from the left…

It’s a good tactic to employ to mix things up, but not when it’s telegraphed and MVE is pulled to the wrong side of the pitch - leaves our right side horribly exposed, as he sprints back!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sunday at 11:51 AM
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Houchens Head said:
Long throws used to work well, back in the day, when Aaron Gunnerson took them!
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Yep still remember that equaliser against Newcastle
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Sunday at 12:10 PM
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Potbellypig said:
There must be some stats out there for goals/chances created on long throws v short throws against Hull. Safe to assume that's the reason we opted for that tactic yesterday.
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The last long throw I can remember where we actually scored was Gunnarson against Blackburn I think
 
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SkyBlueBarmy84

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  • Sunday at 12:17 PM
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stevefloyd said:
The last long throw I can remember where we actually scored was Gunnarson against Blackburn I think
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Torp scored one last season - header against Luton, I think?
 
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SkyBlueBarmy84

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  • Sunday at 12:19 PM
  • #25
Checked: it was against Stoke
 
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Tile Hill Phil

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  • Sunday at 12:21 PM
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SkyBlueBarmy84 said:
Torp scored one last season - header against Luton, I think?
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Think it was against Stoke if I remember correctly
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Sunday at 12:25 PM
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SkyBlueBarmy84 said:
Torp scored one last season - header against Luton, I think?
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I never said my memory was good
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Sunday at 12:26 PM
  • #28
So 2 in the last 15 years...good ploy the long throw ...any more anyone can think of?
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Sunday at 1:21 PM
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A long throw if used right can be more effective than a corner as you generally have better control of your throw than where the ball when kicking can end up…. Ask Eccles about that with his corners hahaa


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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sunday at 1:59 PM
  • #30
Houchens Head said:
Long throws used to work well, back in the day, when Aaron Gunnerson took them!
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If worked rarely. Fact we only really remember the times it did work and not the numerous times it didn't.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sunday at 2:04 PM
  • #31
commissioner_gordon said:
Does anyone else find our obsession with long throws a bit embarrassing?

I have two reasons. It doesn't suit our style of play as we have so many players who are really good on the ball.

Secondly - we should be better than that, especially against poor teams like Hull. Their defenders just lapped it up!
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They're useful, but not if you do it everytime you get a throw anywhere near their area. They just set up for it and are on auto-pilot. Need to vary it up.

One place I'd like us to use it more is when we're further back and MvE gets the ball really quickly. The striker should be making a run towards that flank so MvE can hurl the ball down the line and we can try and get them on the turn. Chances are most times we'd end up with another throw further up the pitch. Again, not do it everytime but when they look out of position. At the moment we just hold onto the ball, let them get into position and end up playing a shirt throw to a player marked and under pressure.
 

olderskyblue

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  • Sunday at 2:07 PM
  • #32
They were as useful as any of our throw ins yesterday. We are quite poor at keeping the ball from them.
 
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Potbellypig

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  • Sunday at 2:31 PM
  • #33
stevefloyd said:
So 2 in the last 15 years...good ploy the long throw ...any more anyone can think of?
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I'd say firstly, MVE hasn't been playing for us for 15 years, so we can ignore that stat.

Secondly, if I was a coach/analyst I would have the data for how Hull defend against long throws and ask Lampard to make a tactical decision based on that. I assume that's what's happened, regardless of our inability to score from them.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Sunday at 3:01 PM
  • #34
Its like saying why bother with corners!
Only 12% of corners lead to a goal only 20% lead to a shot on target so should we stop them aswell.
I'm sure our percentage would be lower then that.
Its the thought and excitement that makes it worth while. IMHO
 

Robinshio

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  • Sunday at 3:07 PM
  • #35
Potbellypig said:
I'd say firstly, MVE hasn't been playing for us for 15 years, so we can ignore that stat.

Secondly, if I was a coach/analyst I would have the data for how Hull defend against long throws and ask Lampard to make a tactical decision based on that. I assume that's what's happened, regardless of our inability to score from them.
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Well if there is a defender who we are looking at for £10m then the tactics or recruitment are off
 
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