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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 2, 2022
  • #946
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It's frustrating as if he had hit the ground running, we would've likely been able to recoup a decent proportion of the fee that we initially paid.

However, at this rate mutual termination beckons in the summer unless a L1 club is willing to pay a menial fee for him.
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Do you think it's definitely over for him here?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Mar 2, 2022
  • #947
fernandopartridge said:
Do you think it's definitely over for him here?
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I don't think there's really evidence to suggest otherwise. Perhaps if he'd replicated form shown at Lincoln then he would've stood half a chance but based on his recent performances I think it's safe to say the ship has most definitely sailed for him.

Far too costly to act as a fourth option and he just doesn't suit our style of play.
 

larry_david

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  • Mar 2, 2022
  • #948
We won't mutually cancel him. The guy scored 16ish league 1 goals in 6 months two years ago and was near enough top scorer in league 2. Yes his form recently is patchy but he's a saleable asset, even if it's a couple of hundred grand to someone like a Salford or someone like that. Wrexham bought Ollie Palmer for about 150k in the conference!
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Mar 2, 2022
  • #949
larry_david said:
We won't mutually cancel him. The guy scored 16ish league 1 goals in 6 months two years ago and was near enough top scorer in league 2. Yes his form recently is patchy but he's a saleable asset, even if it's a couple of hundred grand to someone like a Salford or someone like that. Wrexham bought Ollie Palmer for about 150k in the conference!
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The issue is LD is going to be his wages. Obviously he's going to have to take a reduction if he wants to play regular football but I don't think it's going to be as simple as you're making out given he's one of our highest earners... Hopefully we don't have to pay compensation for him to leave but at this rate I really wouldn't be putting any guarantees against it.

Without being pedantic also, NL purchases are anomalies as they don't have to comply to any form of FFP and are therefore more willing to significantly overpay for EFL players in L1/L2. See the example of Paul Mullin who is reportedly on £10k per week at Wrexham.
 
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rexo87

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  • Mar 2, 2022
  • #950
Cba to start a new thread but apparently we've offered JCS a 3 year deal


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Happy_Martian

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  • Mar 2, 2022
  • #951
Jack Burroughs got 25mins tonight for Ross County's 1-0 victory against Motherwell. Drysdale was an unused sub.

Hearing about Walker not performing at Portsmouth, Cashman not getting in the Rochdale team and now the two lads at Ross County getting bit parts, has our loan policy backfired for players we thought highly of (Walker had a good reputation before we bought him) ?
 

larry_david

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  • Mar 2, 2022
  • #952
Happy_Martian said:
Jack Burroughs got 25mins tonight for Ross County's 1-0 victory against Motherwell. Drysdale was an unused sub.

Hearing about Walker not performing at Portsmouth, Cashman not getting in the Rochdale team and now the two lads at Ross County getting bit parts, has our loan policy backfired for players we thought highly of (Walker had a good reputation before we bought him) ?
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Throw in bapaga and billson it does seem to have been a poor season for our loan lads so far
 

higgs

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  • Mar 2, 2022
  • #953
They haven't got much game time

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rexo87

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  • Mar 3, 2022
  • #954
Burroughs looks the most successful of the lot. Was generally appearing in all games before his injury and since. The rest it's fair to say have been faliures

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 4, 2022
  • #955
rexo87 said:
Burroughs looks the most successful of the lot. Was generally appearing in all games before his injury and since. The rest it's fair to say have been faliures

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It’s not a club fault it’s more the players not taking advantage of their opportunities
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 4, 2022
  • #956
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s not a club fault it’s more the players not taking advantage of their opportunities
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I saw Drysdale play and he gave away a penalty and then was at fault for another goal. Ross County were 1-0 at the time and then went on to lose 2-1. He lost his place after that.
 

larry_david

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  • Mar 4, 2022
  • #957
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I saw Drysdale play and he gave away a penalty and then was at fault for another goal. Ross County were 1-0 at the time and then went on to lose 2-1. He lost his place after that.
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Yeah he started first 3 to fairly good reviews but losing that header to a small midfielder has cost him his place. Ross County have gone on a run too so he's just not had a chance to get back in. I thought the pen was bloody harsh as well, about a yard out volleyed at him and his hand was behind his back but he turned it back so it hit it. I know their manager was fuming at the time.

Burroughs came on for about 27 mins on Tuesday and looked like he was left of a front 3 at first then went to rwb.
 
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skyblue025

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  • Mar 5, 2022
  • #958
Burroughs needs to stick to one position. It's great being a utility player but you never master a position and become first choice.
 

larry_david

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  • Mar 5, 2022
  • #959
Magwitch said:
Any feed back on Bosma how he’s done etc he’s a big unit just the type we need in midfield imo
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Reading back on this forum is fun.

We had such high hopes for camwell, Kyle finn, even kwame Thomas. And magwitch with bosma
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Mar 5, 2022
  • #960
Drysdale got the last 10 mins (84th min sub and 4mins of stoppage time) as Ross County won 1-0 against St Mirren. Ross now up into 6th place in the Scottish Premiership. Jack Burroughs was an unused sub.

Same too for Danny Cashman, keeping the bench warm as Rochdale fell to a 3-0 away defeat at Sutton United.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Mar 7, 2022
  • #961

LOAN WATCH: Sky Blues Round-Up

Julien Dacosta and Marcel Hilssner both started for their loan sides, as they got some minutes in the tank this past weekend.
www.ccfc.co.uk
 

stevefloyd

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  • Mar 8, 2022
  • #962
skyblue025 said:
Burroughs needs to stick to one position. It's great being a utility player but you never master a position and become first choice.
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Milner hasn't had a bad career doing that
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Mar 8, 2022
  • #963
Walker has scored.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 8, 2022
  • #964
Sick Boy said:
Walker has scored.
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Release him on a free
 
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skybluegod

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  • Mar 12, 2022
  • #965
Cashman back in picture at Rochdale last couple games. Got on for 10 mins today.
Walker back on bench only got 5 mins.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Mar 22, 2022
  • #966
And the head coach has pledged to ‘find the spark’ to ignite the loanee’s underwhelming Pompey career.

Cowley told The News: ‘I’ve got the best out of Tyler once – and will try to keep working with him to find the spark that he needs to play to his best.

‘He scored against Crewe in the previous game he started and then picked up that ankle injury, which probably just stopped his momentum a little. Unfortunately, that’s the way it has gone for him.

‘We haven’t seen the best of him, that’s obvious to say.

‘I’m not going to criticise my players and I never will, not to you guys, and I don’t mean that disrespectfully.

‘Being a professional footballer is a tough job, especially at a big club like Pompey where there’s a lot of noise, so I’m not going to create more.

‘Tyler has to keep working. His attitude, work ethic and willingness for the team is, without doubt, there, but it has not happened for him at this point.’

Cowley had hoped Walker would provide the cutting edge so glaringly absent from his side in the first half of the season.
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'I’m not going to criticise my players and I never will': Pompey boss won't give up on underwhelming Tyler Walker

Danny Cowley is refusing to give up on Tyler Walker.
www.portsmouth.co.uk
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 22, 2022
  • #967
SlowerThanPlatt said:

'I’m not going to criticise my players and I never will': Pompey boss won't give up on underwhelming Tyler Walker

Danny Cowley is refusing to give up on Tyler Walker.
www.portsmouth.co.uk
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Fucks sake Tyler, we’re never getting you off the wage bill at this rate.

Crazy how a player can nose dive like that.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 22, 2022
  • #968
shmmeee said:
Fucks sake Tyler, we’re never getting you off the wage bill at this rate.

Crazy how a player can nose dive like that.
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I really don´t think he was ever that good. All opinions of course.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 22, 2022
  • #969
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I really don´t think he was ever that good. All opinions of course.
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His goal scoring record would argue otherwise.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 22, 2022
  • #970
shmmeee said:
His goal scoring record would argue otherwise.
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Which is?

Surely if it was that good he wouldn't have been sent off on loan.
 
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better days

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  • Mar 22, 2022
  • #971
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Which is?

Surely if it was that good he wouldn't have been sent off on loan.
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It allowed us to get Bidwell in.
Seemed to make sense at the time
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 22, 2022
  • #972
better days said:
It allowed us to get Bidwell in.
Seemed to make sense at the time
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If his goal record was that good we wouldn't have made the switch though.

He was used as a make weight financially because he was seen as disposable enough.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2022
  • #973
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
If his goal record was that good we wouldn't have made the switch though.

He was used as a make weight financially because he was seen as disposable enough.
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Hence the question why he nosedived having been out top scorer the season before and a good record at L1.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 22, 2022
  • #974
shmmeee said:
His goal scoring record would argue otherwise.
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Find it amazing parks is liking this post
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 22, 2022
  • #975
Evo1883 said:
Find it amazing parks is liking this post
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I'm really living rent free since I said your favourite player wasn't the best championshpi player to ever exist
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 22, 2022
  • #976
Ccfcisparks said:
I'm really living rent free since I said your favourite player wasn't the best championshpi player to ever exist
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You're making yourself look stupid is all

Really bizarre

Calling your hypocrisy out
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 22, 2022
  • #977
shmmeee said:
Hence the question why he nosedived having been out top scorer the season before and a good record at L1.
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I still don´t think his goal stats are anywhere near as good as some try and make them sound.

 
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Colin Steins Smile

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  • Mar 22, 2022
  • #978
better days said:
It allowed us to get Bidwell in.
Seemed to make sense at the time
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Given the limited resources MR has, it seemed a sound decision at the time.
On Saturday it seemed an even better decision with Bidwell able to slot in at left side centre back. I'm not sure who we would have tried to play there if he hadn't been available.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 22, 2022
  • #979
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I still don´t think his goal stats are anywhere near as good as some try and make them sound.

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To be fair to him , alot of those championship matches were bit part games when he was alot younger .. he's got something to offer , but I don't think he currently fits the style at ccfc .. or pompey by the looks of it .
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 22, 2022
  • #980
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I still don´t think his goal stats are anywhere near as good as some try and make them sound.

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His career average in all games is a goal every 195 minutes. That’s excellent. Pulling out appearances for a player who has been playing two minute spells is disingenuous.

Be as grumpy as you like about him, but his record up to this season has been excellent, hence why we and several other clubs chased him.
 
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