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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Yesterday at 9:48 AM
  • #141
To be fair yesterday was just a bit of a freak accident from a defensive pov.

The free kick was imo quite good on reflection and caught us unaware. The penalty was just a silly error and then Thomas should of cleared the ball on the third.

The fact we haven’t really conceded once from open play is a major positive from last year (counting the third as a second phase of a set piece).

We do look better than last year it’s just when you play the 3-1-6 in possession, your always going to be vulnerable on the counter
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Yesterday at 9:50 AM
  • #142
Evo1883 said:
Why does nobody ever give the midfield shit for their shoddy cover and simply blame thomas or kitching

Like 2 centre halves can stop the world irrespective of whats going on around them
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My problem with Torp. He’s screaming, pointing and getting stroppy with his teammates for not covering positions he should be picking up and tracking back himself.

But pointing out what he completely lacks is forbidden on here.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 9:54 AM
  • #143
Tommo1993 said:
My problem with Torp. He’s screaming, pointing and getting stroppy with his teammates for not covering positions he should be picking up and tracking back himself.

But pointing out what he completely lacks is forbidden on here.
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I think you're pretty much on your own with the Torp hate these days tbf.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 9:55 AM
  • #144
TomRad85 said:
I think you're pretty much on your own with the Torp hate these days tbf.
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Yeah he had the most defensive contributions for us again yesterday.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Yesterday at 9:56 AM
  • #145
TomRad85 said:
I think you're pretty much on your own with the Torp hate these days tbf.
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It’s not particularly hate. It’s pointing out his generally physical and defensive weaknesses.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Yesterday at 9:59 AM
  • #146
Tommo1993 said:
It’s not particularly hate. It’s pointing out his generally physical and defensive weaknesses.
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He worked his arse off yesterday, second half I remember him sprinting back 50 yards to help MvE out. Definitely upped this part of his game. Lampard has turned him into a far more complete midfielder
 
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ovduk78

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  • Yesterday at 10:00 AM
  • #147
Grendel said:
He is as clueless about football as politics - more so if anything
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I am not convinced that replacing Thomas & Kitching but still playing JDS will have the desired effect some are convinced it will
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Yesterday at 10:02 AM
  • #148
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I can imagine us having more joy away from home if teams are more likely to be baited into not sitting in front of us. The game seemed very open yesterday, more space for players to run in behind and it played in our favour.
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I don’t think the game was that open, but it was chaotic. Their first goal was a freakish goal, the penalty came off the back of a long shot that wasn’t that troublesome and the third was the best chance they created all match. Had we gone 2 goals up, I believe we would’ve routed Derby by 3 or 4 goals.

A bit of context, last week Hull had 3 less shots in total and 1 less shot on target than Derby and the narrative was that we shut out Hull completely.

Likewise, we had a similar amount of shots this week and last so we’ve been quite consistent in the league.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Yesterday at 10:03 AM
  • #149
CCFCSteve said:
He worked his arse off yesterday, second half I remember him sprinting back 50 yards to help MvE out. Definitely upped this part of his game. Lampard has turned him into a far more complete midfielder
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Agree he worked hard, but he was flapping his arms several times at BTA and MvE for not dropping inside to pick up a man he should have been with anyway. Obviously people like to turn a blind eye with particular players.
 

clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 10:03 AM
  • #150
Tommo1993 said:
It’s not particularly hate. It’s pointing out his generally physical and defensive weaknesses.
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I've been banging on about his physicality for ages but he looks much stronger and fitter now as I suspected he would after a full preseason, particularly one working with Jones.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 10:04 AM
  • #151
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I don’t think the game was that open, but it was chaotic. Their first goal was a freakish goal, the penalty came off the back of a long shot that wasn’t that troublesome and the third was the best chance they created all match. Had we gone 2 goals up, I believe we would’ve routed Derby by 3 or 4 goals.

A bit of context, last week Hull had 3 less shots in total and 1 less shot on target than Derby and the narrative was that we shut out Hull completely.

Likewise, we had a similar amount of shots this week and last so we’ve been quite consistent in the league.
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Yeah, yesterday was a bit of an anomaly.
These type of games happen.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Yesterday at 10:06 AM
  • #152
clint van damme said:
I've been banging on about his physicality for ages but he looks much stronger and fitter now as I suspected he would after a full preseason, particularly one working with Jones.
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I’d certainly want him in a congested midfield battle over even a fit Ben Sheaf. It’s his frequent lapses I can’t get on with.
 

clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 10:09 AM
  • #153
Tommo1993 said:
I’d certainly want him in a congested midfield battle over even a fit Ben Sheaf. It’s his frequent lapses I can’t get on with.
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This time last year his performances were one big lapse!
He's improving all the time, so yes, he's not the finished article but he's getting better and better.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Yesterday at 10:16 AM
  • #154
clint van damme said:
Yeah, yesterday was a bit of an anomaly.
These type of games happen.
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Looking at FotMob, Derby’s xG was 1.48 and the only ‘good chance’ they created was for their 3rd goal. The penalty alone accounted for over half their xG.

Anyone getting carried away with the headline of 3 goals conceded either wasn’t at the game or looked at the stats. Lampard seemed to brush this off yesterday in his post-game comments.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 10:18 AM
  • #155
TomRad85 said:
I think you're pretty much on your own with the Torp hate these days tbf.
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Our MOTM yesterday.
 
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Gint11

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  • Yesterday at 10:19 AM
  • #156
Kitchings Hollywood left foot pass to Milan for the goal
 
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TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 10:20 AM
  • #157
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Our MOTM yesterday.
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Either him or Mason-Clark, yes.
 
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jto123

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  • Yesterday at 10:21 AM
  • #158
Putting aside the defensive performance for a moment, as a captain I thought he was the best since Doyle. In your face, fierce and hungry. I think most agree that Sheaf shouldn’t have the armband anymore, but I would choose Kitching over Grimes to replace (even if that competitiveness causes the odd red card).
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Yesterday at 10:21 AM
  • #159
Kitching was brilliant yesterday btw, would rather replace Thomas (all though a player like Hughes who can play both sides is a big plus).
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Yesterday at 10:27 AM
  • #160
clint van damme said:
This time last year his performances were one big lapse!
He's improving all the time, so yes, he's not the finished article but he's getting better and better.
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Accepted.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Yesterday at 10:27 AM
  • #161
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Kitching was brilliant yesterday btw, would rather replace Thomas (all though a player like Hughes who can play both sides is a big plus).
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He was, the Kitching-MVE-EMC move for goal number 4 was just fantastic.

Thomas was also great because he was a big set piece threat and this directly lead to 2 goals yesterday.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 10:31 AM
  • #162
Mucca Mad Boys said:
He was, the Kitching-MVE-EMC move for goal number 4 was just fantastic.

Thomas was also great because he was a big set piece threat and this directly lead to 2 goals yesterday.
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One touch football giving the opposition no chance to get set. Much more of that please.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Yesterday at 10:34 AM
  • #163
Mucca Mad Boys said:
He was, the Kitching-MVE-EMC move for goal number 4 was just fantastic.

Thomas was also great because he was a big set piece threat and this directly lead to 2 goals yesterday.
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Thomas was chaotic yesterday imo but like you say grabbed a goal and almost had a second.

Not a dig as I genuinely think it was just a freak show for there goals yesterday
 
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Speedies_Chips

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  • Yesterday at 11:42 AM
  • #164
Tommo1993 said:
My problem with Torp. He’s screaming, pointing and getting stroppy with his teammates for not covering positions he should be picking up and tracking back himself.

But pointing out what he completely lacks is forbidden on here.
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Random football fan claims to know more about marking and positioning than a professional footballer.
 

fatso

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  • Yesterday at 11:47 AM
  • #165
Tommo1993 said:
Obviously people like to turn a blind eye with particular players.
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Could it possibly be you that's mistaken rather than everyone else ???
 

Tommo1993

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  • Yesterday at 12:25 PM
  • #166
fatso said:
Could it possibly be you that's mistaken rather than everyone else ???
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Never.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Yesterday at 12:25 PM
  • #167
Speedies_Chips said:
Random football fan claims to know more about marking and positioning than a professional footballer.
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Thats this place is spades really isn’t it. Everyone would be guilty.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Yesterday at 12:39 PM
  • #168
Agree with Tommo on Torp. Acknowledge he’s improved though. Needs to maintain it. In terms of Kitching he’s adding in that forward carry to his game to better effect and defensively he’s our best player. Especially considering he has to cover a non existent left back a lot of the time.
 

Hobo

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  • Yesterday at 12:40 PM
  • #169
Brighton Sky Blue said:
More of a question than a comment this, but when we’re filling our own penalty area to defend set pieces, why are we putting nobody on either post? You stop at least one of those goals yesterday no problem.
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Seems to be out of fashion with most teams.

The order of the day seems to be pick a player wrap your arms around them, wrestle them and try and disrupt their movement.
 
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Hobo

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  • Yesterday at 12:46 PM
  • #170
CCFCSteve said:
He worked his arse off yesterday, second half I remember him sprinting back 50 yards to help MvE out. Definitely upped this part of his game. Lampard has turned him into a far more complete midfielder
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For me, yesterday was Torp's best 90 minutes in a Cov shirt. Not much to fault in that display. I hope he can do it consistently now. Looked the player I was hoping to see last season. In fairness to him his form was starting to look better in the later stages of last season before his injury.
 
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wingy

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  • Yesterday at 12:48 PM
  • #171
Hobo said:
Seems to be out of fashion with most teams.

The order of the day seems to be pick a player wrap your arms around them, wrestle them and try and disrupt their movement.
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Infuriating!
And the justification of it/or the nuance of it, nuasiating!
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Yesterday at 12:48 PM
  • #172
Agree with that. By far his best game. It’s what we should have been seeing for over a season. Let’s hope it’s not a one off
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Yesterday at 12:56 PM
  • #173
Sky Blue Goblin said:
To be fair yesterday was just a bit of a freak accident from a defensive pov.

The free kick was imo quite good on reflection and caught us unaware. The penalty was just a silly error and then Thomas should of cleared the ball on the third.

The fact we haven’t really conceded once from open play is a major positive from last year (counting the third as a second phase of a set piece).

We do look better than last year it’s just when you play the 3-1-6 in possession, your always going to be vulnerable on the counter
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Well if you watch you will see the player who scored from the freekick actually picked up the foam blob and moved it 3ft closer about 3ft in towards the pitch so that he could get the angle. The Referee made him move it before he let them take the kick and that twat of a referee moved it to an even better angle. Effing linos are shite and picking up money for old rope if you ask me.
 
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wingy

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  • Yesterday at 12:57 PM
  • #174
It's been evident for at least approaching half a season,cut him some slack,it hasn't just happened yesterday, he's responding.
As for pointing that could be he's brainier than the average footballer
 

Frankly_Mr_Shankly

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  • Yesterday at 1:09 PM
  • #175
Gint11 said:
Kitchings Hollywood left foot pass to Milan for the goal
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He also created our 5th goal with a similar ball.
 
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