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  • Start date Jan 12, 2025
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JSL

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  • Today at 9:52 AM
  • #386
He was injured when we first got him which hindered his quality. The same with BTA who was carrying an injury so I read, but has now turned it around
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Today at 10:33 AM
  • #387
Its amazing how signing a bit of direct quality competition wolfenden is gettong the best out of these Kitching/Thomas.

My concern is hes a booking away from suspension.

One vs Charlton and its Wolfy in against Ipswich funny how football may work.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 10:37 AM
  • #388
Londonccfcfan said:
Its amazing how signing a bit of direct quality competition wolfenden is gettong the best out of these Kitching/Thomas.

My concern is hes a booking away from suspension.

One vs Charlton and its Wolfy in against Ipswich funny how football may work.
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The world as we know it won't crumble if Wolfenden has to deputise though will it.

It's hardly like we'd be thrusting an academy player into the deep end.

Wrexham was a poor game for him granted, but he's still a very good player at this level.

Kitching is fantastic and we want our best and most settled XI against Ipswich sure, but he's hardly infallible.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Today at 10:41 AM
  • #389
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
The world as we know it won't crumble if Wolfenden has to deputise though will it.

It's hardly like we'd be thrusting an academy player into the deep end.

Wrexham was a poor game for him granted, but he's still a very good player at this level.

Kitching is fantastic and we want our best and most settled XI against Ipswich sure, but he's hardly infallible.
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Coming in as one of a settled back four instead of part of three changes is big too
 
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mmttww

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  • Today at 11:14 AM
  • #390
Loved Kitching from day one and I don't think it's wild to point out that him and Thomas aren't water tight. We've just conceded four goals in three days!
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Today at 11:37 AM
  • #391
Shannerz said:
I don't think it was ridiculous.

His first season, despite some positive moments, he could be a bit of a liability.

Something clearly went on there, so who knows what would have happened without the managerial change, but I'd argue the time out of the team did him good. Sometimes it works that way.
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He wasn't at all, our record from when he came into the team improved significantly, him being sent off at Blackburn late on in the season is held against him alongside the sudden view that Binks was good because he did a hard tackle on Fernandes. Kitching was clearly the better player and clearly should have been starting games.
 
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Shannerz

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  • Today at 11:58 AM
  • #392
fernandopartridge said:
He wasn't at all, our record from when he came into the team improved significantly, him being sent off at Blackburn late on in the season is held against him alongside the sudden view that Binks was good because he did a hard tackle on Fernandes. Kitching was clearly the better player and clearly should have been starting games.
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I agree that he was always better than Binks.

However, there were three reds in that first season, and several clangers. He was also prone to giving away silly free kicks around the area, which showed a general lack of discipline.

This has gone; since he's come back into the team, and especially following the pre-season, he's looked a different player.
 
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theskyisthelimit

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  • Today at 11:58 AM
  • #393
Is it beyond the realms that Kitching is protected against Charlton and Woolfenden starts to safeguard against the yellow
 
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shmmeee

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  • Today at 12:02 PM
  • #394
theskyisthelimit said:
Is it beyond the realms that Kitching is protected against Charlton and Woolfenden starts to safeguard against the yellow
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I’d be really careful about rotating but it’s not actually a bad shout. Dasilva and maybe even Torp. Still think it’s a bit disrespectful to a Charlton side who until recently were doing pretty well.
 
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theskyisthelimit

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  • Today at 12:08 PM
  • #395
shmmeee said:
I’d be really careful about rotating but it’s not actually a bad shout. Dasilva and maybe even Torp. Still think it’s a bit disrespectful to a Charlton side who until recently were doing pretty well.
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Only thing I would say with DaSilva would be that he got left out at Wrexham alongside Thomas and MVE and our defence looked all over the place.
I know it is just DaSilva and not MVE you are suggesting but I would not want to risk too many changes and Wrexham happening again
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 12:15 PM
  • #396
shmmeee said:
I’d be really careful about rotating but it’s not actually a bad shout. Dasilva and maybe even Torp. Still think it’s a bit disrespectful to a Charlton side who until recently were doing pretty well.
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The underlying stats point to the fact that they were overachieving and in a false position.

They're one of the lowest for xG in the league and their forwards aren't good enough for this league.

Still shouldn't underestimate them but I'm expecting them to probably start to struggle a bit until players come back from injury and dependent on what their Jan window looks like.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Today at 12:17 PM
  • #397
theskyisthelimit said:
Only thing I would say with DaSilva would be that he got left out at Wrexham alongside Thomas and MVE and our defence looked all over the place.
I know it is just DaSilva and not MVE you are suggesting but I would not want to risk too many changes and Wrexham happening again
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Double edged sword innit? The more we’d miss a player the more incentive to drop him so he can’t be suspended for Ipswich.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Today at 12:18 PM
  • #398
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
The underlying stats point to the fact that they were overachieving and in a false position.

They're one of the lowest for xG in the league and their forwards aren't good enough for this league.

Still shouldn't underestimate them but I'm expecting them to probably start to struggle a bit until players come back from injury and dependent on what their Jan window looks like.
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Im a big fan of stats, but an even bigger fan of the football narrative of “plucky club bites complacent big boys on the arse”
 
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Grendel

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  • Today at 12:18 PM
  • #399
shmmeee said:
No one says that though
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Of course they are good defenders at this level and are complimentary as a pairing.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 12:20 PM
  • #400
Grendel said:
Of course they are good defenders at this level and are complimentary as a pairing.
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Thoughts on Simms Tuesday G?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 12:21 PM
  • #401
shmmeee said:
Im a big fan of stats, but an even bigger fan of the football narrative of “plucky club bites complacent big boys on the arse”
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Tranmere in 19/20 season...
 

Evo1883

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  • Today at 12:23 PM
  • #402
mmttww said:
Loved Kitching from day one and I don't think it's wild to point out that him and Thomas aren't water tight. We've just conceded four goals in three days!
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Obviously bobby scored the own goal , but you cant attribute every goal to liam and bobby
 

Grendel

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  • Today at 12:26 PM
  • #403
Ccfcisparks said:
Thoughts on Simms Tuesday G?
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Probably his best game for the club.
 
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Jay88

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  • Today at 12:26 PM
  • #404
shmmeee said:
I’d be really careful about rotating but it’s not actually a bad shout. Dasilva and maybe even Torp. Still think it’s a bit disrespectful to a Charlton side who until recently were doing pretty well.
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I wouldn't be rotating the defence at all. They've got a week without a game after Saturday. Like you said Charlton have been fairly solid up until last weekend.
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 12:27 PM
  • #405
Jay88 said:
I wouldn't be rotating the defence at all. They've got a week without a game after Saturday. Like you said Charlton have been fairly solid up until last weekend.
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Its about whether you risk a random yellow from a Championship ref though.
 

mmttww

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  • Today at 12:27 PM
  • #406
Evo1883 said:
Obviously bobby scored the own goal , but you cant attribute every goal to liam and bobby
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I'm not, but we've not been solid at the back consistently with them as our CBs. I rate them both, but folks are a bit binary with posts about them. Either sh*t or amazing.

Numbers say they're good but not incredible, individually or as a pair. Folks are piling on someone for being critical of Kitching. I'm saying that's harsh and they've got a point.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 12:28 PM
  • #407
mmttww said:
I'm not, but we've not been solid at the back consistently with them as our CBs. I rate them both, but folks are a bit binary with posts about them. Either sh*t or amazing.

Numbers say they're good but not incredible, individually or as a pair. Folks are piling on someone for being critical of Kitching. I'm saying that's harsh and they've got a point.
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Do you have the stats for me showing theyre good but not incredible?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Today at 12:31 PM
  • #408
mmttww said:
I'm not, but we've not been solid at the back consistently with them as our CBs. I rate them both, but folks are a bit binary with posts about them. Either sh*t or amazing.

Numbers say they're good but not incredible, individually or as a pair. Folks are piling on someone for being critical of Kitching. I'm saying that's harsh and they've got a point.
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Well we have the 3rd tightest defence in the league and we play a high line with a pretty aggressive attack style .

We often find our centre halves in the oppo box

They are top championship centre halves still not in their primes
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 12:38 PM
  • #409
robbiethemole said:
Maybe you need a break from here for a month schmmee, your constant fucking moaning about everything is getting tedious and can't be good for your real life!!!!
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Real life? This forum is his life and it’s sad as fuck, was telling people to fuck off and die a few weeks ago……tells you all you need to know about the man
 

Grendel

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  • Today at 12:46 PM
  • #410
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Real life? This forum is his life and it’s sad as fuck, was telling people to fuck off and die a few weeks ago……tells you all you need to know about the man
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He’s always been the same - he’s always spouted uniformed shite on football and non football matters
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 12:50 PM
  • #411
Grendel said:
He’s always been the same - he’s always spouted uniformed shite on football and non football matters
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I mean he refers to himself as the poundshop Thor, says all you need to know
 

TomRad85

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  • Today at 1:03 PM
  • #412
Evo1883 said:
Well we have the 3rd tightest defence in the league and we play a high line with a pretty aggressive attack style .

We often find our centre halves in the oppo box

They are top championship centre halves still not in their primes
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Apart from that though...
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Today at 1:10 PM
  • #413
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
The world as we know it won't crumble if Wolfenden has to deputise though will it.

It's hardly like we'd be thrusting an academy player into the deep end.

Wrexham was a poor game for him granted, but he's still a very good player at this level.

Kitching is fantastic and we want our best and most settled XI against Ipswich sure, but he's hardly infallible.
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Didn't Wolfy play against Wrexham?
 
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Shannerz

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  • 58 minutes ago
  • #414
stevefloyd said:
Didn't Wolfy play against Wrexham?
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They both did. Thomas was missing.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • 54 minutes ago
  • #415
Shannerz said:
They both did. Thomas was missing.
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By changing the defence it handed Journeyman Moore a hatrick
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • 54 minutes ago
  • #416
stevefloyd said:
By changing the defence it handed Journeyman Moore a hatrick
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Well woolfy did
 

stevefloyd

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  • 53 minutes ago
  • #417
Sky Blue Pete said:
Well woolfy did
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I rest my case
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • 52 minutes ago
  • #418
I think him and Bobby are both terrible defenders, the evidence is clear look at all he games we’ve lost this season when they both play
 
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mmttww

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  • 50 minutes ago
  • #419
Ccfcisparks said:
Do you have the stats for me showing theyre good but not incredible?
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the number of goals we conceded in their first two seasons at the club and the trend towards us conceding more in the last few weeks.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • 46 minutes ago
  • #420
mmttww said:
the number of goals we conceded in their first two seasons at the club and the trend towards us conceding more in the last few weeks.
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Oh, so no is the answer.
 
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