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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 12, 2018
  • #36
We float corners into the box so the players can’t get the power to beat the keeper or the keeper catches it, lots of other teams drill them in at pace so the player has something to work with. Our wingers never get to the goal line and cross it or pull it back. We are even shit at throw ins
 
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Nick

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  • Feb 12, 2018
  • #37
Baffles me how people are paid to play football can't take corners properly without floating them out for a throw-in.

Get a sack of footballs, get somebody on the other side and just whip corners across and practise.
 
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coop

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  • Feb 12, 2018
  • #38
Because the coaching and tactics are obviously shit.
 

steve82

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  • Feb 12, 2018
  • #39
I raised this issue very early in the season. We had no one who can deliver a good set piece.. I.e free kicks and corners. We still don't, it's a big aspect of goals in this league.

Kelly and JJ were responsible early on and then it went more towards JJ. Things were really bad then. Shipley scored a nice free kick at Luton and had a few half chances since tho now JCH looks useful at them.

We've so many failed corner takers it's embarrassing. It's little wonder our returns from corners are limited.

2 or 3 is it? I can recall Grimmers in the league at Grimsby, Willis in the fa cup v Stoke.. anymore?
 
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Adge

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  • Feb 12, 2018
  • #40
Nick said:
Baffles me how people are paid to play football can't take corners properly without floating them out for a throw-in.

Get a sack of footballs, get somebody on the other side and just whip corners across and practise.
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And these are the players “we have to try and support”.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2018
  • #41
Nick said:
Baffles me how people are paid to play football can't take corners properly without floating them out for a throw-in.

Get a sack of footballs, get somebody on the other side and just whip corners across and practise.
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I thought pretty much every dead ball Accrington fired in were excellent on Saturday. Very impressive.
 

pastythegreat

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  • Feb 12, 2018
  • #42
Otis said:
I thought pretty much every dead ball Accrington fired in were excellent on Saturday. Very impressive.
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They certainly had enough of them

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wingy

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  • Feb 12, 2018
  • #43
Back to the OP ,looks like we're reliant on him for four or five games now to do his stuff ,from the managers appraisal on Doyle.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2018
  • #44
wingy said:
Back to the OP ,looks like we're reliant on him for four or five games now to do his stuff ,from the managers appraisal on Doyle.
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Kelly was very good at the start of the season. Maybe he just isn't quite 100% yet.
 

Esoterica

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  • Feb 12, 2018
  • #45
I think the criticism of Kelly is ridiculous. Clearly rushed back into the team and has completed 2 x90 mins in 8 days when a team not in crisis would gave given him a couple of 30 mins to ease himself back in. He's getting it in the neck because he's Doyle's replacement but Willis was captain on Saturday and did nothing deserving of it.
 
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Otis

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #46
Esoterica said:
I think the criticism of Kelly is ridiculous. Clearly rushed back into the team and has completed 2 x90 mins in 8 days when a team not in crisis would gave given him a couple of 30 mins to ease himself back in. He's getting it in the neck because he's Doyle's replacement but Willis was captain on Saturday and did nothing deserving of it.
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After 2 or 3 outstanding games, Willis went back to some of his bad old ways again.
 

stevefloyd

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #47
Terry Gibson's perm said:
We float corners into the box so the players can’t get the power to beat the keeper or the keeper catches it, lots of other teams drill them in at pace so the player has something to work with. Our wingers never get to the goal line and cross it or pull it back. We are even shit at throw ins
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We are absolutely shocking at throw ins and just for good measure shockingly bad at winning 2nd balls too
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #48
coop said:
Because the coaching and tactics are obviously shit.
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Oggy? He is a coach takes them for 'shooting practice' prior to the game coaches our goalies on kicking ...just throwing it in the mix
 

stevefloyd

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #49
Otis said:
Kelly was very good at the start of the season. Maybe he just isn't quite 100% yet.
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Maybe Kelly was good because of Doyle because our star youngster looked dreadful on Saturday without him
 

Esoterica

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #50
Otis said:
After 2 or 3 outstanding games, Willis went back to some of his bad old ways again.
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Wasn't a comment on his playing performance at all. Just that Willis is invisible as captain.
 

Esoterica

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #51
stevefloyd said:
Maybe Kelly was good because of Doyle because our star youngster looked dreadful on Saturday without him
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Because Bayliss was one of the people suffering with the virus! Kelly was clearly not fully match sharp, had an anonymous JMD on his right side and a sick Bayliss in front of him. Vs FGR Bayliss was out right, it was Kelly's first game back for 11 weeks and Doyle was carry an injury. It's really crazy that people are pinning bad team performances on him individually, yes he went long too often 2nd half on Saturday but that was probably tiredness and desperation.
 
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Otis

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #52
Esoterica said:
Wasn't a comment on his playing performance at all. Just that Willis is invisible as captain.
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Yeah, well I was talking about some of his marking again.
 

Greggs

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #53
Otis said:
Kelly was very good at the start of the season. Maybe he just isn't quite 100% yet.
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That's my hope, he deffo don't look fit
 

steve82

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #54
Esoterica said:
I think the criticism of Kelly is ridiculous. Clearly rushed back into the team and has completed 2 x90 mins in 8 days when a team not in crisis would gave given him a couple of 30 mins to ease himself back in. He's getting it in the neck because he's Doyle's replacement but Willis was captain on Saturday and did nothing deserving of it.
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Esoterica said:
Wasn't a comment on his playing performance at all. Just that Willis is invisible as captain.
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At last someone else notices it too!

Jordan Willis isn't strong enough as a person to be captain. It weighs to heavy on him and affects his own game. The arm band cut his circulation and he's erratic.

He's better when he's just his own game to worry about.
 
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Esoterica

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #55
steve82 said:
At last someone else notices it too!

Jordan Willis isn't strong enough as a person to be captain. It weighs to heavy on him and affects his own game. The arm band cut his circulation and he's erratic.

He's better when he's just his own game to worry about.
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Well I think it's a unfair assumption to say he's not strong enough as a person or that it weighs too heavy on him, for me he just doesn't display the characteristics of a captain on the pitch.
 
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wal3590

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #56
pastythegreat said:
HOOF! Anything that went forward was HOOFED! I've just put in another thread about how I'm not surprised that we've played our 2 worst games of the season since he's been back in!

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MK game?
 

steve82

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #57
Esoterica said:
Well I think it's a unfair assumption to say he's not strong enough as a person or that it weighs too heavy on him, for me he just doesn't display the characteristics of a captain on the pitch.
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Shall we settle for not captain material?
I was disappointed with him all last season as a captain.

For me he's the 1st head to drop when I look around the pitch after we concede when the inquest starts.
Stokes is always making positive gestures to motive, Rod less so recently.

Liam Kelly was on the pitch and captains armband or no captains armband he tried to rally the troops but was clear things were flat from the response.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #58
AFCCOVENTRY said:
bad team performances.

Ever since he has come back into team we have played the worse football this season.

He managed to get relegated with Orient to non-league last season.
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Clueless. He wasn't great Saturday but wasn't as bad as a number of his colleagues
 
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steve82

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #59
fernandopartridge said:
Clueless. He wasn't great Saturday but wasn't as bad as a number of his colleagues
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Totally agree, plenty were worse out there Saturday.

A victim of the role his manager asks him to play.
 

Adge

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #60
steve82 said:
Shall we settle for not captain material?
I was disappointed with him all last season as a captain.

For me he's the 1st head to drop when I look around the pitch after we concede when the inquest starts.
Stokes is always making positive gestures to motive, Rod less so recently.

Liam Kelly was on the pitch and captains armband or no captains armband he tried to rally the troops but was clear things were flat from the response.
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And this is what I keep saying about Willis/Haynes et al. Mentally week.
 

pastythegreat

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #61
wal3590 said:
MK game?
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No the Accrington I was on about tbf

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Londonccfcfan

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #62
Mr Kelly really needs to be back to his best tonight.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #63
Londonccfcfan said:
Mr Kelly really needs to be back to his best tonight.
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As do 10 others. I don't think the defeat Saturday would have been avoided even if Kelly had been better.
 

Ricketts

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  • Feb 13, 2018
  • #64
We missed having an assistant ref on the pitch as well. The ref was left to make his own indecisions.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Feb 14, 2018
  • #65
I think real reason for playing Kelly 2 games in a row was because Doyle has a niggle and may have to sit out a number of games,
Kelly is the only alternative the club has to step into his position while he is out.
Even though the results have been s**t you can't really blame Robins for that decision.
 

Adge

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  • Feb 14, 2018
  • #66
Adge said:
And this is what I keep saying about Willis/Haynes et al. Mentally week.
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Oh-seems someone is starting to take notice? Hmmm:emoji_thinking:
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Feb 14, 2018
  • #67
Adge said:
Oh-seems someone is starting to take notice? Hmmm:emoji_thinking:
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Robins said mentally weak, not mentally week. Also, Haynes didn’t play last night and Willis wasn’t at fault for any of the goals so more than likely he was referring to others. Apart from that, spot on
 

Adge

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  • Feb 14, 2018
  • #68
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Robins said mentally weak, not mentally week. Also, Haynes didn’t play last night and Willis wasn’t at fault for any of the goals so more than likely he was referring to others. Apart from that, spot on
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Not just talking about them squire-Liam Kelly for example-another with losing ingrained in him. That as we know becomes a habit and a tricky one to shake off.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Feb 14, 2018
  • #69
Adge said:
Not just talking about them squire-Liam Kelly for example-another with losing ingrained in him. That as we know becomes a habit and a tricky one to shake off.
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Can you answer my question?

If we get promoted this season are our players now ‘winners’?
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Feb 14, 2018
  • #70
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Can you answer my question?

If we get promoted this season are our players now ‘winners’?
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I’d class it as job done.
 
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