I know that people might see it differently, but I don't see why people need to group themselves off.
I understand some people live in the stone ages, the same with racism but at a game it doesn't really matter if the bloke next to me is black, white, gay, straight etc they are a city fan, that's all. When people start putting themselves into separate groups it sort of goes against treating everybody as equal.
Totally agree nick for once with you.
Kg7 whats your reason for wanting to highlight some ones sexuality and put them in a little box. We are all sky blue supporters irispective of gender, age, colour, disability, sexual orintation so whats your reason as I personally find your post a little strange and divisive.
I totally agree with marcusp and Nick, nowadays we are obsessed with putting people in groups, giving them catorgories.
Whether the person next to me is lesbian,gay, transgender or a Martian I don't give a fuck, the only thing that's important is that we all support this basket case of a club for some reason.
The world has gone PC mad
The thing is though, how far does the group go? It just sounds as if all of the LGBT fans are going to be sectioned off and put in a corner. Where does it end?
I know that there are plenty of LGBT groups in all walks of life, and I know there is a lad culture at football but I am not sure it would help.
It's just my opinion that it sort of divides things even more, should we have a women's supporters group also? I'd bet there are a few hundred gay people at each game, they just don't feel the need to tell everybody the same as other people don't shout that they are straight or make a big deal out of it. They are just football fans.
I do remember somebody on here saying they were gay when the Stokes stuff happened, he also said it didn't offend him in the slightest.
It would be the same as any other supporters group I imagine. The London Supporters group don't get sectioned off and put in a corner...the JSBs do (!!)
Well they're meeting up because of locality and a love of CCFC.
This group would be meeting up because of sexuality and a love of CCFC. No different!
For a start it would be a presence associated with the club whereas up until now there has been none. Familiarity leads to education. IMO if there was an LGBTQ presence at football games then eventually homophobic attitudes and chanting would be eradicated.
Well they're meeting up because of locality and a love of CCFC.
This group would be meeting up because of sexuality and a love of CCFC. No different!
For a start it would be a presence associated with the club whereas up until now there has been none. Familiarity leads to education. IMO if there was an LGBTQ presence at football games then eventually homophobic attitudes and chanting would be eradicated.
Doesn't even have to be that. If some LGBTQ+ (apparently the + is on it nowadays btw) fans feel they can't attend now because of perceived atmosphere etc, then a group might encourage them to attend... and then find their own assumptions are unfounded too.
Surely we want more fans?
So yeah, in an ideal world we'd all be equal, but I see no harm in you asking and, people will either decide they want to be part of it, or they'll decide not to be/ you'll find out we have no LGBTQ+ fans anyway!
I know that people might see it differently, but I don't see why people need to group themselves off.
I understand some people live in the stone ages, the same with racism but at a game it doesn't really matter if the bloke next to me is black, white, gay, straight etc they are a city fan, that's all. When people start putting themselves into separate groups it sort of goes against treating everybody as equal.
but if you'd experienced any issues attending games because of your sexuality then challenging it as part of a group would surely be easier than attempting it as an individual?
Would probably help to speak to people who had similar experiences as well.
I think this is important simply to say here 'we' are, loud and proud, like it or not. I think it's naive to say sexuality doesn't come into it, the footy world is not a tolerant one and like it or not there is still a lot of prejudice. So... I applaud the OP despite his need to immediately distance himself by stating his own sexual orientation.
They can do that as CCFC fans though, rather than gay ccfc fans, the same as black, white, indian, pakistani, jewish, muslim city fans don't have to say here we are as these fans. They are just city fans.
Of course, if groups of LGBT fans want to go to games then great, the more the merrier. I just worry it would then be separating fans into groups.
How many people sit at football matches looking around the crowd to try and pick out people who might be gay? That's what I meant by sexuality doesn't come into it. If a bloke sits next to me, he is a city fan at the match, I wouldn't sit there trying to work out his religion, sexuality etc.
Do people actually do that?
Do you think the majority of fans are as accepting as you Nick?
Queer
An LGBT fan group is a great idea while acceptance is being pushed in football. Not one out male footballer while still playing (JF aside) is a shocking statistic and something all sections of the football community should be looking to address. Why not lead that charge from the terraces?
JF was asked if it was more difficult being black or gay in 70s football. He said definitely harder being gay as he didn't need to tell his parents that he was black!
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