skyblueinBaku
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Or maybe he uses his professional knowledge to put in layman's terms what is happening to the club as far as finance is concerned. Perhaps he is just trying to help us understand. Did you consider that?
Because he does work for ACL?
Or maybe he uses his professional knowledge to put in layman's terms what is happening to the club as far as finance is concerned. Perhaps he is just trying to help us understand. Did you consider that?
Not if Tim doesn't let him.
I have to disagree with you, Lord. OSB has seemed to me to be quite impartial up till now. Why would he change his stance?
OSB58 works for ACL?! When did that come out then?
Having been asked as to who i am and was i there then I confirm that I was the one giving Mr Brookfield a grilling
Yes I was at the creditors meeting representing a client, The Alan Higgs Centre Trust in my professional capacity. All above board, with letters of engagement, signed in at that meeting etc. It was a one off appointment for that day which gave me the opportunity to question the administrator on their behalf and to assist a local charity. I have not acted for them before or since and I am not part of The Higgs Charity, ACL, the Council etc nor have I ever been.
As my name is out there I will also make clear that I have been helping, in a non professional capacity, the Sky Blue Trust in getting a handle on the financial situation at CCFC. Nothing to hide there either. Hopefully it helps the Trust get their heads round complex/messy financial matters.
Think I have proven my financial skills and been right on more than a few ocassions
I view the current situation as so serious that hiding behind a keyboard is neither relevant or useful. If any of the above upsets, devalues my contribution or disappoints some on here then so be it. My input here and other places has always been truthful and to the best of my ability and I am very comfortable with that. Oh and if I offered an opinion it was honest and I am entitled to express it just as much as anyone else
Got some questions .......
Last night I asked Mr Brookfield
- if the accounts were right or wrong, was the basis of their preparation incorrect ?
- if he had ever encountered a group banking situation whereby all bankings and payments are made from one account?
- whether it is who paid or who had the liability to pay that dictates what is in the accounts?
- whether he would care to comment on the 1996 Memorandum & Articles (approved by directors, shareholders, company house and The Football League) which reads as follows
"the Companys (CCFC Ltd) objects are:
To acquire from its parent company, The Coventry City Football Club Limited (later to be called CCFC H) as a going concern the business of the playing activities of that company and to carry on such business under the name of "COVENTYRY CITY FOOTBALL CLUB" " ..................... could he comment as to why CCFC Ltd was a non trading property subsidiary when the Company's own statutory rules said it was not
I stated the basis of those memorandum & articles had not been changed by later amendments.
Mr Brookfield is Finance director of CCFC appointed over a year ago............ these are not difficult questions.......... you might expect any director to understand the entity he is in charge of
Instead there was no real reply and the retort was "were you at the creditors meeting with the Alan Higgs Trust" - to which I immediately answered truthfully yes
Got to wonder what relevance my being at the creditors meeting had to any of the questions I asked and did not get answered :facepalm::thinking about:
They were not difficult questions
That is the truth.
He does some contractual work for ACL and that became more and more obvious. "Just my opinion of course" - well was it really?
OSB58 works for ACL?! When did that come out then?
My thoughts exactly. The answer being that he doesn't after all, it was just a good old-fashioned smearing.
Half of ACL then.
There's nothing there to say he worked for them previously or presently, is there?
There's nothing there to say he worked for them previously or presently, is there?
He does some contractual work for ACL and that became more and more obvious. "Just my opinion of course" - well was it really?
The FL probably sent the deaf-squad in again to listen (no offence intended to the hard of hearing)
If I can interject here; I don't give a fig whether OSB is or has ever worked for ACL or Shitzu; I have always found his postings very enlightening,useful and very impartial.
However if anyone found I had once done any work for sisu, otium or any other company of that type it would be party time for the vast majority.
Correct. If I said to you I had represented sisu in one discussion regarding advertising strategy in the local area what opinion would you form?
Is there anything that I've said that said that?
I just said that he had done work for ACL(apologies for getting that wrong, actually the Alan Higgs Trust,but pretty much interwoven when connected to the club).
Though of course nothing to say that he hasn't done further work for them since then either.
Well he has been a lot less active of late, but I think the majority of praise he garners is for what he's said in the past, before he was "working for Higgs". It's not impossible to imagine a scenario where their employees, should any browse this board, noticed his intelligence and coherence when discussing complicated financial matters and considered he could be a handy bloke to hire. It in no way invalidates what he said previous to working for Higgs, which is what's being implied with the "just my opinion-or is it" comment.
Even if it turned out he had been working for Higgs, ACL and Hoffman as their advisor, he's still right.
Good to see that you're continuing to attack SISU, ACL and Higgs with equal vigour, btw, Mr. D.Advocate.
Correct. If I said to you I had represented sisu in one discussion regarding advertising strategy in the local area what opinion would you form?
That much is indeed true.
However tbf not quite sure where this thread's been going the past couple of hours, or why!
quite clear really Grendel tries to portray anyone who wants sisu to go and sell to an owner who has at least some interest in the football team, will not be accepted by the fool as he wishes for a community based business to fail ( Higgs charity supports LOCAL sports kids and the council which we as cov rate payers pay money to )
he would love it for it to fail so a hedge fund who wish to take OUR club & team out of OUR CITY. He would 'LOVE IT' to fail as the council have different views regarding politics to himself.
Grendel just wants to derail the council and ACL regardless that the people of Coventry will loose out if the Ricoh ever failed.
Yet he is so dumb that he thinks that Sisu strategy is the way forward
Lets get behind the GIVE sisu the Ricoh for free as he says lets see a massive community asset given to a hedge fund company who have no affiliation to Coventry or Coventry City FC
Ok please explain to me how the tax payer benefits from the Ricoh. Give a tangible example of that in practice.
Well the maths are a bit tricky, but I'd start off with the number of jobs and the tax that they pay. And then add the savings assuming at least a proportion of those might be claiming benefits instead. Plus any corporation tax, rent, and rates. And there's the more intangible money that visitors to the Ricoh for footy and exhibitions push through the local economy. But other than that, there's probably bugger all and we should just give it away, eh.
Talk about a daft question!
Well the maths are a bit tricky, but I'd start off with the number of jobs and the tax that they pay. And then add the savings assuming at least a proportion of those might be claiming benefits instead. Plus any corporation tax, rent, and rates. And there's the more intangible money that visitors to the Ricoh for footy and exhibitions push through the local economy. But other than that, there's probably bugger all and we should just give it away, eh.
Talk about a daft question!
Well OSB isn't quite the impartial witness that we all thought he was now is he?
You appear to be saying that he is less impartial now he has been working for Higgs than he was before he was working for Higgs?
Wouldn't really go that far myself, most of his stuff is very interesting and enlightening(though often overlooked when he dissects stuff that doesn't fit the majority view).
Just that and interest, no matter how small, has to be declared when commenting(by anyone, on any side) to be able to take a reasonable view on things.
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