HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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I hope they do - but let’s be realistic
I hope they do - but let’s be realisticI think, no let me rephrase that I hope and pray they will fall short.
I'm not so sure. They will have to get rid of several players because not only can they not afford the wage bill but they are in enough trouble for breaking financial rules without trying to do it yet again this season. Vardy is now also gone so will need replacing.They’re right though. Leicester will be top 6 with or without a deduction
Depends who they have to offload and what players they get in. Their chairman seems too interested in playing Polo than anything elseThey’re right though. Leicester will be top 6 with or without a deduction
Season ticket holder at Leicester?They’re right though. Leicester will be top 6 with or without a deduction
I means what’s the point… it’s worth cheating is the message being sent out loud and clear.
It's not an unreasonable point given the gulf between the parachute payment clubs & the rest.Season ticket holder at Leicester?
Sheffield United are a top Championship side especially with Hamer. Leicester are in a right mess and that's without the punishment they are about to receive.It's not an unreasonable point given the gulf between the parachute payment clubs & the rest.
Sheffield United would have needed to have 25 points deducted to miss out on the top 6.
Not at all - I’m a realist. Leicester won the league quite comfortably 2 years ago, will they lose players? Yeah - but the gulf between leagues is as big as ever.Season ticket holder at Leicester?
They'l be one of the stronger sides but nothing like last time.Not at all - I’m a realist. Leicester won the league quite comfortably 2 years ago, will they lose players? Yeah - but the gulf between leagues is as big as ever.
not quite sure there will be many prem takers of their high waged players so they’ll start the season with the squad in tact. Even with a deduction that - let’s face it will be halved on appeal.
do I think we can beat them? Yes I do - I just accept they’ll be one of the strongest sides in the division
Don't think the two situations are remotely comparableNot at all - I’m a realist. Leicester won the league quite comfortably 2 years ago, will they lose players? Yeah - but the gulf between leagues is as big as ever.
not quite sure there will be many prem takers of their high waged players so they’ll start the season with the squad in tact. Even with a deduction that - let’s face it will be halved on appeal.
do I think we can beat them? Yes I do - I just accept they’ll be one of the strongest sides in the division
Remains to be seen. Most people said similar about Sheffield United last season & Burnley the season before, both were long odds to win the league (and both netted me some nice moneySheffield United are a top Championship side especially with Hamer. Leicester are in a right mess and that's without the punishment they are about to receive.
If Sheffield United lose Hamer they won't be as strong. Leicester will be losing several 1st team players. Their wage bill was too high last season even with being in the Prem.
Remains to be seen. Most people said similar about Sheffield United last season & Burnley the season before, both were long odds to win the league (and both netted me some nice money)
The point is, unless the points deduction is absolutely huge (which it won't be) what's to stop them just ignoring the mess they're in & just keep chucking money at it (it's what they've consistently done before) knowing they can overcome any measly points deduction.
Not possible, that is a contractual matter.stop their parachute payments mayb??
*ecumenicalNot possible, that is a contractual matter.
*ecumenical
It was just at the top of my wish list is all hahahahaNot possible, that is a contractual matter.
But nobody knows.Not at all - I’m a realist. Leicester won the league quite comfortably 2 years ago, will they lose players? Yeah - but the gulf between leagues is as big as ever.
not quite sure there will be many prem takers of their high waged players so they’ll start the season with the squad in tact. Even with a deduction that - let’s face it will be halved on appeal.
do I think we can beat them? Yes I do - I just accept they’ll be one of the strongest sides in the division
Sheffield United last season? You mean the Championship side Sheffield United?Remains to be seen. Most people said similar about Sheffield United last season & Burnley the season before, both were long odds to win the league (and both netted me some nice money)
The point is, unless the points deduction is absolutely huge (which it won't be) what's to stop them just ignoring the mess they're in & just keep chucking money at it (it's what they've consistently done before) knowing they can overcome any measly points deduction.
Yes, Sheffield United. They were 12/1 to get promoted, lumped on that each way (pays out for a top 4 finish) for a very tidy payout. As mentioned before, they finished in the top 6 by 24 points despite a points deduction.Sheffield United last season? You mean the Championship side Sheffield United?
They won't be able to keep throwing money at it. Seems like the end of the road finally. Loopholes have been closed. The Prem and Championship seem to have joined together over the matter.
You may be right. But there isn't exactly much good news for them presently.
Based on previous punishments I doubt it will be massively severe. Sheffield United got a measly 2 points last season.But nobody knows.
Will they have a large points deduction? Will they have a transfer embargo?
I read somewhere recently that their average present wage is 90k a week. Even with the Prem money last season they were spending £1.20 per every £1 coming in on wages alone. They knew that if they didn't stay up they would be in big trouble so took the gamble. Now they need to get rid of several players to reduce the wage bill. But does anyone want to take over players on silly money? But they do have a few highly rated youngsters said to be of interest to some big clubs.
It's said that RVN is still in place because of how much it would cost them to get rid of him.
Personally I think they have as much chance of being involved in the promotion chase as the relegation battle. It's impossible to say how they will do when their rebuild isn't known as well as their punishment for constantly cheating the system. But I would guess just in the top half presently.
12/1 to get promoted? Take it you meant to finish top. You'd have got 1/5 of the odds for coming in the top 4. £100 EW would have cost £200 and you would have got £340 back givinga profit of £140. A good bet to takeYes, Sheffield United. They were 12/1 to get promoted, lumped on that each way (pays out for a top 4 finish) for a very tidy payout. As mentioned before, they finished in the top 6 by 24 points despite a points deduction.
If the points deduction is small, why won't Leicester be able to keep throwing money at it? It's what they have done up until now in full knowledge that they were breaking the rules by doing so.
Listen, I hope you are right, I'm just being pessimistic as it's Leicester & they have continually flouted the rules for years.
Leicester have taken the p1ss for years. We can only guess what will happen.Based on previous punishments I doubt it will be massively severe. Sheffield United got a measly 2 points last season.
if it’s 5-10 points, they’ll make that up comfortably.
Yeah, but they wouldn't have known that loophole argument would be successful, they've played fast & loose for years.12/1 to get promoted? Take it you meant to finish top. You'd have got 1/5 of the odds for coming in the top 4. £100 EW would have cost £200 and you would have got £340 back givinga profit of £140. A good bet to take
When they were in the Championship they claimed that they were under Prem rules. When in the Prem they delayed publishing their numbers saying it should be under the jurisdiction of the Championship. The Prem have closed all the loopholes they know of.
We can only guess what will happen next. As I said earlier they have a few very promising young players who are 15 and 16 that big clubs around the world are interested in. That could be their way out of all of this if they are sold for enough. It could put their last 3 years into positive territory. They would still be liable for the previous years and as long as they don't get a big points deduction and transfer embargo they could do well.
But with how things stand I prefer to be in our position than theirs. We will know more in August then finally when this debacle is sorted.
Yes, Sheffield United. They were 12/1 to get promoted, lumped on that each way (pays out for a top 4 finish) for a very tidy payout. As mentioned before, they finished in the top 6 by 24 points despite a points deduction.
If the points deduction is small, why won't Leicester be able to keep throwing money at it? It's what they have done up until now in full knowledge that they were breaking the rules by doing so.
Listen, I hope you are right, I'm just being pessimistic as it's Leicester & they have continually flouted the rules for years.
Oh they're abysmally run & their recruitment is horrific, no arguments there. That's why they just cheat by chucking money at it.Leicester's recruitment has been genuinely shocking in recent years.
You're claiming they'll just throw money at it again which might be true, entirely different argument altogether whether it'll be effective though.
Let's forget about the effective bit for now.Leicester's recruitment has been genuinely shocking in recent years.
You're claiming they'll just throw money at it again which might be true, entirely different argument altogether whether it'll be effective though.
Oh they're abysmally run & their recruitment is horrific, no arguments there. That's why they just cheat by chucking money at it.
I'm not saying they WILL do that again but if the points deduction isn't significant, why wouldn't they?
I agree to a point.Oh they're abysmally run & their recruitment is horrific, no arguments there. That's why they just cheat by chucking money at it.
I'm not saying they WILL do that again but if the points deduction isn't significant, why wouldn't they?
Yeah - you would. The benefits from cheating a season in the prem outweighs the punishment.Let's forget about the effective bit for now.
If you were under serious charges of overspending would you overspend yet again before the decision is made on the present charges and make the consequences even worse?
It isn't just the EFL that's after them. They have the backing of the Prem and their money behind them. Will be very difficult to get away with it again.Yeah - you would. The benefits from cheating a season in the prem outweighs the punishment.
in an ideal world they’ll be banned from promotion and the riches. But football don't work like that. They’ll be punished enough to remain competitive and avoid the legal battles that the EFL have no appetite for
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