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  • Thread starter higgs
  • Start date Apr 11, 2019
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higgs

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #1
With our owners going ahead with the legals if they lose this time is that their final chance will it be dead in the water if they lose again?

Would wasps ever do a deal with us if we go ahead with the legals and lose?

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #2
Think there’s another appeal to the Supreme Court and European court.

They’ll probably go civil route if they lose this one
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #3
Might as well keep going until they win one...the poxy government have
 
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ccfcway

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #4
Civil action hasn’t even begun yet. They won’t start that until this process has been exhausted.

It’s far from over
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #5
The current appeal is in the Supreme Court ain’t it? Hopefully we’ll be out from under ECJ jurisdiction before they can take it there.
But yeah civil cases can last years!
 
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Ashdown

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #6
And people think the Sharks might build a stadium.......laughable ! We've been kidnapped and that's that for possibly years.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #7
It’s why I can’t understand the amost support for our litigious owners
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #8
There’s no support for them. We want them gone, what we’d don’t want is to be under the behest of Wasps - something Hoffman would have us doing.

It’s probably more wanting SISU to win out of spite - given that the council sold our stadium just to spite them and not giving a fuck about their own football team
 
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lifeskyblue

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #9
How much in legal costs are being racked up? At some point surely they will need to be paid alongside any fines deemed fit in the legal process. Could that ultimately destroy sisu or council? Or am I being naive and both sides will weather any losses comfortably?


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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #10
I've read somewhere that Wasps have invested something like £400,000 just having lawyers keeping up to date on the proceedings in the current court case. Despite sisu not winning the first case i dont think any expences have ever been paid.I may be wrong some one will probably put me right .Just as a side if the team had a wln % Sisu have in court we wouldn't need to be relegated to non league form would take us there.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #11
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
I've read somewhere that Wasps have invested something like £400,000 just having lawyers keeping up to date on the proceedings in the current court case. Despite sisu not winning the first case i dont think any expences have ever been paid.I may be wrong some one will probably put me right .Just as a side if the team had a wln % Sisu have in court we wouldn't need to be relegated to non league form would take us there.
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When Tim Fisher says SISU batter you in court, what he actually means is ,they batter your Bank Account.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #12
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
I've read somewhere that Wasps have invested something like £400,000 just having lawyers keeping up to date on the proceedings in the current court case. Despite sisu not winning the first case i dont think any expences have ever been paid.I may be wrong some one will probably put me right .Just as a side if the team had a wln % Sisu have in court we wouldn't need to be relegated to non league form would take us there.
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No costs been paid yet
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #13
Sky Blue Pete said:
No costs been paid yet
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Isn't the first judicial review finished not knowing a thing about how courts run(not wanting to) but shouldn 't Susi have payed costs or have none been awarded.If not why not ?
 

Fergusons_Beard

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #14
Can someone sensible point out to me what is wrong with SISU appealing?

Or for that matter what is wrong with SISU taking out any of the legal actions?

Without the sarcastic bollox or a smart arsed answer-just a really good reason why all the SISU court stuff is wrong and why.

Thanks


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ccfcway

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #15
Fergusons_Beard said:
Can someone sensible point out to me what is wrong with SISU appealing?

Or for that matter what is wrong with SISU taking out any of the legal actions?

Without the sarcastic bollox or a smart arsed answer-just a really good reason why all the SISU court stuff is wrong and why.

Thanks

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nothing at all. There is nothing legally wrong with any of the court cases, as its their right to do it, that's the beauty of the justice system.

On the reverse, there is nothing legally wrong with wasps not wanting to talk to ccfc due to legals or because they don't like the colour of our shirts, its their ground to decide who they lend it to.
 

Fergusons_Beard

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #16
ccfcway said:
nothing at all. There is nothing legally wrong with any of the court cases, as its their right to do it, that's the beauty of the justice system.
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That’s what I thought and can’t really understand why so much antipathy directed at SISU for carrying it on.

Ultimately surely if SISU wins legals CCFC win too?


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ccfcway

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #17
Fergusons_Beard said:
That’s what I thought and can’t really understand why so much antipathy directed at SISU for carrying it on.

Ultimately surely if SISU wins legals CCFC win too?
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and if they lose (again) ?

and if they win, what's to suggest CCFC benefit ?.

Didn't CCFC release a statement today which said...

Coventry City Football Club and its management team cannot affect the stances of our Owners
 
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SAJ

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  • Apr 11, 2019
  • #18
lifeskyblue said:
How much in legal costs are being racked up? At some point surely they will need to be paid alongside any fines deemed fit in the legal process. Could that ultimately destroy sisu or council? Or am I being naive and both sides will weather any losses comfortably?


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From Sisu’s prospective they will look at the legal costs as a legitimate cost for the business which will reduce their tax liability. Therefore they are quite happy to keep throwing money at it as in reality the exchequer is paying a proportion of the costs every time they lose.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 12, 2019
  • #19
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
Isn't the first judicial review finished not knowing a thing about how courts run(not wanting to) but shouldn 't Susi have payed costs or have none been awarded.If not why not ?
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They were awarded against them, they’ve not been paid
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 12, 2019
  • #20
Fergusons_Beard said:
That’s what I thought and can’t really understand why so much antipathy directed at SISU for carrying it on.

Ultimately surely if SISU wins legals CCFC win too?


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They have a legal right but there are consequences. I also think that a Sisu win doesn’t necessarily benefit ccfc in any way
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 12, 2019
  • #21
Sky Blue Pete said:
They were awarded against them, they’ve not been paid
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How do you know?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 12, 2019
  • #22
fernandopartridge said:
How do you know?
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Sorry should have clarified that I am pretty sure not certain.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 12, 2019
  • #23
In fact talking out my arse the first case costs were paid. The one in 2017 not sure

Will CCFC have to fork out for Sisu's latest court defeat?
 

Captain Dart

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  • Apr 12, 2019
  • #24
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
Isn't the first judicial review finished not knowing a thing about how courts run(not wanting to) but shouldn 't Susi have payed costs or have none been awarded.If not why not ?
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As I understand it, costs will be awarded but they will not cover the actual cost of the defence only the court time and there is a significant delay between award and payment, they will certainly not be settled while appeals are ongoing.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Apr 12, 2019
  • #25
It would seem to me that they are using the legal system to distress first ACL and now Wasps. As others have said, this is battering people with court rather than in court. The fairness of their case seems to be secondary (if it is there at all) to their intention to keep their opponents tied up in legal action. That would seem to be an abuse of the legal system.
I couldn't care less wh they pursue in the courts to be honest. However, the sad fact is that our football club suffers because of what they do.
 
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