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Match Thread Leeds United - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 28th Sep (5 Viewers)

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Evo1883

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,436
Chris1987 said:
Come on Evo. Admit it. We have been poor at best for a major proportion of this season. Our points tally doesn't lie . There is obviously a major problem (regrettably including MR ) which could be one of a number of things . Something needs to change but no idea what it is
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Not the manager
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,437
bigfatronssba said:
But you can’t mislead supporters and then not expect them to be angry

If you’re saying that promotion wasn’t a realistic target this season, but the club said it was, then it deserves all the criticism it’s going to get
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Fans are notoriously stupid. They demand ambition, they believe every word managers, players and clubs say.

They want to hear ambition and won’t tolerate anything else.

I said at the start of the season that we are a top ten side. At the moment, 7 games in, I am content.
 
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napolimp

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,438
bigfatronssba said:
But you can’t mislead your customers and then not expect them to complain
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I think you're mixing a football club up with buying a dodgy vacuum cleaner from Argos.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,439
Nick said:
Yeah but it has been more than 7 games? Its not a new issue.
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It's 7 games into the season , tell me which season displeased you the most nick
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,440
Sick Boy said:
There’s no chance King will give Robins until Christmas if this form carries on. The next few games will be key.
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Think it’s 4 points minimum over the next 2 games
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,441
David O'Day said:
No but they were pretty itchy
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And stupidly long.
 
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theferret

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,442
napolimp said:
We're not in a relegation battle, it's September. You can't get relegated until at least the new year.
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Never said were, in fact I explicitly said we're not atm. I was merely asking the question at what point does the fear or prospect of that prompt King to act.
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,443
Theonlywayisskyblue said:
Based on what, though ? I'm not a bedwetter nor a Robins out but I can't see anything positive at the moment. The argument that we always start slowly has also worn off
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Absolutely agree. This isn’t a slow start now. There are larger problems

But I am content Robins will sort it out
 
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Viktor17

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,444
Fear the end is nigh, sadly.

something seriously wrong.
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,445
bigfatronssba said:
But you can’t mislead supporters and then not expect them to be angry

If you’re saying that promotion wasn’t a realistic target this season, but the club said it was, then it deserves all the criticism it’s going to get
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How is it misleading supporters?

If the club aims for promotion, but doesn't achieve it, that is not misleading supporters.

That's clearly not how football works is it.

If they came out and said 'buy your season tickets because we're DEFINITELY getting promoted' then that would be misleading supporters.
 
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napolimp

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,446
theferret said:
Never said were, in fact I explicitly said we're not atm. I was merely asking the question at what point does the fear or prospect of that prompt King to act.
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Doesn't matter, cross that bridge if/when they get there.
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,447
DrPoolittle said:
Fans are notoriously stupid. They demand ambition, they believe every word managers, players and clubs say.

They want to hear ambition and won’t tolerate anything else.

I said at the start of the season that we are a top ten side. At the moment, 7 games in, I am content.
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Please explain, given the amount of money we’ve spent, and our performance over the past few seasons why we shouldn’t be pushing for promotion?
 
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Ibby

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,448
I hate being negative about this team and still believe in Robins but this is just awful. No plan, no structure, no desire. Something needs to change because these players are too good to be in the position that they are. If this continues we’re going to be in a relegation battle.
 
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Macca

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,449
theferret said:
Never said were, in fact I explicitly said we're not atm. I was merely asking the question at what point does the fear or prospect of that prompt King to act.
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He knows he can't sack MR. 90% of the fans will go nuts
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,450
bigfatronssba said:
But you can’t mislead supporters and then not expect them to be angry

If you’re saying that promotion wasn’t a realistic target this season, but the club said it was, then it deserves all the criticism it’s going to get
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These mislead supporters you're on about, how long have they followed the game?
Because it can't have been for more than 5 minutes if that's how they think it works.
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,451
bigfatronssba said:
Please explain, given the amount of money we’ve spent, and our performance over the past few seasons why we shouldn’t be pushing for promotion?
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Because we are only one of several clubs, at least a dozen, all competing. We have spent money to keep up with them, not overtake them
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,452
PVA said:
How is it misleading supporters?

If the club aims for promotion, but doesn't achieve it, that is not misleading supporters.

That's clearly not how football works is it.

If they came out and said 'buy your season tickets because we're DEFINITELY getting promoted' then that would be misleading supporters.
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“3 out of the next 5 seasons i expect a play off finish”

Not my words, the words of our owner
 
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procdoc

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,453
bigfatronssba said:
Please explain, given the amount of money we’ve spent, and our performance over the past few seasons why we shouldn’t be pushing for promotion?
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spending money does not guarantee anything
 
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Skyblue54

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,454
Going to be alot worse if rudoni is injured long term...very worrying...
 
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napolimp

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,455
clint van damme said:
These mislead supporters you're on about, how long have they followed the game?
Because it can't have been for more than 5 minutes if that's how they think it works.
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He bought a season ticket at the end of the play off season.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,456
Evo1883 said:
It's 7 games into the season , tell me which season displeased you the most nick
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It doesn’t matter about the other seasons - a new season started in August.

doze he deserve a statue? Yes - but ultimately players are fighting, others appear not to give a shit. Tactically we’re all over the place and we don’t know our best 11.

That’s all in Robins’ remit. If they don’t get 4 points in the next 2 games, that’s nearly 25% of the season. We could find ourselves mired in a relegation battle we shouldn’t be in - next two games are huge
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,457
clint van damme said:
These mislead supporters you're on about, how long have they followed the game?
Because it can't have been for more than 5 minutes if that's how they think it works.
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And the manager, players, owner, and coaching staff, how long have they followed the game?

Because it can’t have been more than 5 minutes if they think this is acceptable to most supporters
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,458
bigfatronssba said:
“3 out of the next 5 seasons i expect a play off finish”

Not my words, the words of our owner
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He's' not going to say "i couldn't give a fuck where we finish"
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,459
Macca said:
He knows he can't sack MR. 90% of the fans will go nuts
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I think you will find that the 90% is a shrinking number and will be quickly.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,460
napolimp said:
He bought a season ticket at the end of the play off season.
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After managing to get a mates spare for the Play Off final which was his only game
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,461
bigfatronssba said:
And the manager, players, owner, and coaching staff, how long have they followed the game?

Because it can’t have been more than 5 minutes if they think this is acceptable to most supporters
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That's a different point entirely from the one I was replying to.
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,462
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
It doesn’t matter about the other seasons - a new season started in August.

doze he deserve a statue? Yes - but ultimately players are fighting, others appear not to give a shit. Tactically we’re all over the place and we don’t know our best 11.

That’s all in Robins’ remit. If they don’t get 4 points in the next 2 games, that’s nearly 25% of the season. We could find ourselves mired in a relegation battle we shouldn’t be in - next two games are huge
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Well his past does matter , most rational clubs don't sack a manager 7 games into a season after giving them 7 pretty good years
 
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Matt smith

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,463
Macca said:
He knows he can't sack MR. 90% of the fans will go nuts
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He would definitely make the change if he saw fit
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,464
Maybe doug will apoint himself ? Such is his way
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,465
Matt smith said:
He would definitely make the change if he saw fit
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That's like saying the sun will come out if it does
 

jordan210

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,466
Evo1883 said:
Maybe doug will apoint himself ? Such is his way
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With Will King as assistant
 
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napolimp

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,467
Evo1883 said:
Well his past does matter , most rational clubs don't sack a manager 7 games into a season after giving them 7 pretty good years
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Very tricky to get new manager hire right on the first attempt. Especially as a new owner with no experience.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,468
It is a fair point that we could easily replace robins with a terrible appointment
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,469
bigfatronssba said:
And the manager, players, owner, and coaching staff, how long have they followed the game?

Because it can’t have been more than 5 minutes if they think this is acceptable to most supporters
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Incidentally, you are right. We have spent a lot of money but have probably spent it badly.

That would be a reasonable assessment.

Too much money spent, on the wrong players and on the wrong positions.

But fans love reckless spending. Even now, you can hear fans say that King should be throwing more money at the squad.

Imagine the fuss if the Club didn’t spend
 
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David O'Day

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,470
Evo1883 said:
Maybe doug will apoint himself ? Such is his way
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Then pulls off his mask Scooby Doo style to reveal he has really been Orange Ken all along
 
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