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Match Thread Leeds United - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 28th Sep (4 Viewers)

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Ring Of Steel

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,331
Pezza said:
I’m sorry but this is so true.

I find it very difficult to like Lati, Kitching, Dasilva, Thomas, Allen, EMC, Simms…. I could go on.

The play off season was a fluke, we actually somehow got clean sheets that season. Now we have no idea. BUT that season I liked our players, even when we lost…

Today was so bad, the worst I’ve seen in years and I’m old enough to have seen a lot.

But I’m sorry but it’s all predictable, the summer was a shit show and the gaps in the team show more than ever.

That is on Doug and/or Robins.
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You’re saying the playoff final season was a fluke? Over 46 games?
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,332
commissioner_gordon said:
Yes. Since the Wolves game things haven't been right and slowly getting worse.
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Lawrence's last game...
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,333
bigfatronssba said:
Genuine question then. I really like Robins. I want him to be the hero.

How do you see us getting out of this and challenging for promotion this season?
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Why do you think we should be challenging for promotion?

Yes, of course, it should be an ambition but there are a dozen sides in the Championship with equal and genuine claims to be challengers also.

We are a top ten side. Eventually
 
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procdoc

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,334
David O'Day said:
no it doesn't, the only games that matter are the 7 this year so far

Last season we had squad that by the end was running on fumes

if we are like this in 10 games time then we can revisit but after 7 games is far too earlier
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what have we done to address this? The squad is no bigger and our midfield is weaker. Our back four was not improved either
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,335
usskyblue said:
I’d say look at the performance at Leeds away last year. Leeds had a stronger side back then, yet we ground out a point.

Leeds are still good and will be challenging again this year.

We, on the other hand, on the odd occasion show what we can do.. but the rest of the time, we’re shockingly bad. Even worse for me.. have no fight and seem clueless.
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We did but leess should have won the game in the 95th .. alas they missed the sitter . We had a bit of luck which so far this season we're not getting
 
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jto123

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,336
Pezza said:
I’m sorry but this is so true.

I find it very difficult to like Lati, Kitching, Dasilva, Thomas, Allen, EMC, Simms…. I could go on.

The play off season was a fluke, we actually somehow got clean sheets that season. Now we have no idea. BUT that season I liked our players, even when we lost…

Today was so bad, the worst I’ve seen in years and I’m old enough to have seen a lot.

But I’m sorry but it’s all predictable, the summer was a shit show and the gaps in the team show more than ever.

That is on Doug and/or Robins.
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I really hate this logic. Fans always seem to ‘like’ their teams when they win.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,337
Evo1883 said:
2nd half today shows the players wanted get back into it but we simply didn't have the ability to do so .. Leeds simply are a better team
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Which bit was that???
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,338
Pezza said:
The play off season was a fluke,
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Nurse!
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,339
napolimp said:
Half the clubs in the league will think they should be promotion contenders.
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Did half the clubs in the league sell shitloads of season tickets on the basis that it was a realistic target?
 
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SkyBlueAussie

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,340
Nobody seems to want to tackle for the second ball.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,341
Ring Of Steel said:
well I respectfully disagree.

the best times Robins has had was when he had no involvement and interference from above. The biggest crisis he’s faced is when he has loads of involvement and interference from above.
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Sisu In
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,342
DrPoolittle said:
Why do you think we should be challenging for promotion?

Yes, of course, it should be an ambition but there are a dozen sides in the Championship with equal and genuine claims to be challengers also.

We are a top ten side. Eventually
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Id say £45 million spent probably says we should be

'Premier league packages'

'Dream big, Aim High, Play up'


I could carry on
..
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,343
Ring Of Steel said:
You’re saying the playoff final season was a fluke? Over 46 games?
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In a thread jam packed with mad takes that one beats the lot.
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,344
napolimp said:
Half the clubs in the league will think they should be promotion contenders.
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Promotion

You know, the thing the club has stated is the aim by 2028?
 
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theferret

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,345
Evo1883 said:
I'm happy to give robins the time because we've not had a single bad season during his tenure
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I'm willing to give him more time too, but how much of that is based on sentiment? There are many clubs in the this league, of a similar stature, where he'd be packing his bags, because club owners don't tend to be sentimental types. Next two games are vital for him you feel. He has a lot of credit in the bank, but that counts for nothing in the here and now. King will be getting twitchy.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,346
bigfatronssba said:
Did half the clubs in the league sell shitloads of season tickets on the basis that it was a realistic target?
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Maybe fans shouldn't be so thick as to buy based off owners saying they want promotion and should support the club anyway
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,347
bigfatronssba said:
Did half the clubs in the league sell shitloads of season tickets on the basis that it was a realistic target?
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Actually, they did
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,348
bigfatronssba said:
Did half the clubs in the league sell shitloads of season tickets on the basis that it was a realistic target?
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So the club should raise money by saying we don’t stand a chance.

Anyone selling a product is going to big it up.

Even Dr Pepper do it
 

Pezza

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,349
It’s no coincidence that since the new performance director came in….
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,350
Saddlebrains said:
Id say £45 million spent probably says we should be

'Premier league packages'

'Dream big, Aim High, Play up'


I could carry on
..
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This is it. All the expectations and messaging around going for promotion have come from within the club.
 
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bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,351
DrPoolittle said:
Why do you think we should be challenging for promotion?

Yes, of course, it should be an ambition but there are a dozen sides in the Championship with equal and genuine claims to be challengers also.

We are a top ten side. Eventually
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Why?

Because the club have sold season tickets on the basis that we’ll be a PL club by 2028
 
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napolimp

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,352
bigfatronssba said:
Did half the clubs in the league sell shitloads of season tickets on the basis that it was a realistic target?
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Selling season tickets = promotion? Haven't we sold a k or 2 more than last year? I think if fans are buying ST's expecting promotion, they are deluded.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,353
Pezza said:
It’s no coincidence that since the new performance director came in….
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I think it's more likely some of the players aren't happy with the new coaches.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,354
Evo1883 said:
No he gets respect off most sane minded supporters that's all
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Is it respect to put at as the figurehead for this garbage?

I feel like the respectful thing to do would be get Doug’s man in and let him stand on his own two feet.
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,355
Nick said:
Sisu In
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Can’t deny it.
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,356
theferret said:
I'm willing to give him more time too, but how much of that is based on sentiment? There are many clubs in the this league, of a similar stature, where he'd be packing his bags, because club owners don't tend to be sentimental types. Next two games are vital for him you feel. He has a lot of credit in the bank, but that counts for nothing in the here and now. King will be getting twitchy.
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And if we sacked managers with the frequency of say Stoke, we'd use up half our budget for the next 5 years paying them off.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,357
Sick Boy said:
This is it. All the expectations and messaging around going for promotion have come from within the club.
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It comes from all the clubs in this league , fans really believe we are the only team wanting promotion ?
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,358
Ring Of Steel said:
well I respectfully disagree.

the best times Robins has had was when he had no involvement and interference from above. The biggest crisis he’s faced is when he has loads of involvement and interference from above.
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The best times Robins has had is with Adi as his number two.

Think it’s looking more and more like a Brian Clough, Peter Taylor situation imo.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,359
Saddlebrains said:
Lawrence's last game...
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We were around the relegation zone at the start of November last year with the constantly mentioned Adi, Lawrence, Kelly and McFadzean...
 
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CovLad94

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,360
I'm usually an optimist but getting a little worried now, the downfall from last season just isn't going away, this team doesn't know how to win anything if things aren't going our way. No grit, no leadership, no confidence. Hopefully things change fast.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,361
Sick Boy said:
I think it's more likely some of the players aren't happy with the new coaches.
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Well by all accounts they’re only there because the players weren’t happy with the old coaches. So maybe someone need to tell the players to STFU and GBTW.
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,362
bigfatronssba said:
Why?

Because the club have sold season tickets on the basis that we’ll be a PL club by 2028
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Of course they will say that.

And they will continue to.

its a sales technique
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,363
DrPoolittle said:
So the club should raise money by saying we don’t stand a chance.

Anyone selling a product is going to big it up.

Even Dr Pepper do it
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So it was a con then?
 

Boicey

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,364
Fundamentally we sold our quality players and have bought in quantity on a hope and prayer.
That isn't working out.
The likes of MVE and Wright probably want out, those dropped are carrying bitterness.
Confidence in the coaching team is no doubt low.
Not sure how things radically improve at this point.
Which usually means the manager goes.
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #1,365
Sick Boy said:
This is it. All the expectations and messaging around going for promotion have come from within the club.
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You don’t have to believe it though
 
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