David O'Day
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he's managed us twice before in a caretaker role so he knows about working with non elite players
he's managed us twice before in a caretaker role so he knows about working with non elite playersOf course every appointment is a risk, but for me you have to load the deck in your favour, so a manager who has club experience at some level. Also, Carsley is only used to working with the cream of the crop.
If it is him then fair enough I'd back him, but he certainly wouldn't be my choice.
If he’s local then he’s invested in the community, therefore he’s likely to see it as more than just any other role.I genuinely can’t believe that some are listing being local as a reason for him to get the job ffs.
It's doing my head in tbh. Unless "being able to cycle to Ryton" is top of the job spec, it's not really relevantI genuinely can’t believe that some are listing being local as a reason for him to get the job ffs.
I don't mean Doug King's deck. It's a saying.Load the deck in your favour? Can't see us bringing that many more players in.
he's managed us twice before in a caretaker role so he knows about working with non elite players
Yeah, 12 years ago. He was caretaker for a matter of weeks. If he'd never played for us or not lived locally he wouldn't get a mention on here. We are hovering above the relegation zone with a "third of a season gone" to quote others. I'd rather get someone experienced in than risk getting someone who's last Club experience was a dozen years ago. Just seems mad to me. But, there you go, what will be will be.
Lee Carsley's last role full time role in coaching at club level was with Man City's academy in 2017, where he managed the likes of Foden, Sancho and various others.
He did have a caretaker spell at Birmingham at the tail end of 2017, but left in 2018.
I agree that it's a risk taking Carsley given his little club experience as a head coach, but we will see.
And Oggy's in Stoke with the kitAll great until we have a fixture at Sunderland and Clive takes us to Plymouth
How dare you!he's managed us twice before in a caretaker role so he knows about working with non elite players
On the flip side it is good to see the Robins out brigade so excited by the options.So tempted to give this a like, but still hoping that King hasn't messed up as much as I fear.
They won the league the year after he left having sold a bunch of his players for big money. Not sure if that goes down as a +ve or -ve.Wasn't all rosy:
"There was also criticism of the play of the 24-time national champions throughout the season. The tension in Eindhoven rose to boiling point in the week after the cup final, as was reported earlier this week via De Telegraaf . Six players allegedly went to the club management behind Van Nistelrooij's back to express their dissatisfaction.
The group of players is said to have had serious doubts about Van Nistelrooy's performance. There was also talk about Van Nistelrooy's troubled relationship with his assistants Ooijer and Rutten. This is said to have had a negative impact on the atmosphere within the team for a long time."
Neither would be my first choice, but I'd be as happy with one as the other, I think they're very similar in profile and experience
I think you misunderstand, what people mean is that he is likely to want to come to us as he wouldn't have to relocate, it makes no difference after that. I suppose it may be cheaper fro the club if it is normal to pay for accommodation to relocate someone, not sure though.I genuinely can’t believe that some are listing being local as a reason for him to get the job ffs.
It's relevant because it is perceived that it would be more interest to him than a job miles away. That seems obvious to me. Especially if he has family.It's doing my head in tbh. Unless "being able to cycle to Ryton" is top of the job spec, it's not really relevant
Most players and managers don’t actually relocate every time they move club though.I think you misunderstand, what people mean is that he is likely to want to come to us as he wouldn't have to relocate, it makes no difference after that. I suppose it may be cheaper fro the club if it is normal to pay for accommodation to relocate someone, not sure though.
@curly_tom another one for youLocal local local. It’s about what suits the club better, not him. The club shouldn’t really be giving a shit where he’s from.
@curly_tom another one for you
(The point being made is that there’s a good chance Carsley may have applied / would want the job from a convenience point of view for him, not the other way round)
LolThink we should get Marcus Hall in. Knows the club, lives local.
Loljoking aside though, Carsley being local will have no relevance to the clubs decision. It probably will have a lot of relevance to whether he would apply / want it though
I dunno man, I think people have always been more enticed by a job if it means not having to relocate their family or have a huge logistical commute, in any walk of life. Anyway, we’ll probably end up with someone else and this chat was entirely futile lolYep. But I think residence is a really lazy factor to consider. People can’t be that convinced by his managerial/coaching ability if they really think where he lives even comes into the conversation.
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Me tooI've been told Carsley hasn't applied.
Oh well that makes him an excellent candidate then.he's managed us twice before in a caretaker role so he knows about working with non elite players
Makes no sense for him to apply to be honest. He’ll be in the mix for the top England job one day.I've been told Carsley hasn't applied.
He didn’t want the England job this time round. Didn’t apply for it and didn’t want to be considered.Makes no sense for him to apply to be honest. He’ll be in the mix for the top England job one day.
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