shmmeee
Well-Known Member
You think Sisu have been as effective in running a football club as the Nazis were in fighting a war?
Besides, you'd do well to remember which of each of those sides were on the winning team
Like Pompey you mean?
Anyway the thought of the trust getting rid of sisu is akin to dads army conquering the Third Reich.
I agree with Hill. This is a complete non story and just gets a few individuals some airtime.
I have some sympathy as the trust did seem to be involved in trying to oust sisu, along with Higgs and the council. The trust in my view should be working with the club to end this nonsense rather than against them. If I was on the sisu side I would have issues with trusting the trust also.
Having said that, sending such an email is completely stupid. As Jan states in the quotes in the article the trust members are elected board members and unless they are voted out then they remain.
"Get them out" and then?......
Or maybe like all the Clubs in the Bundesliga who seam to be doing all the right things???
Pearl necklace !!!!!"Get them out" and then?......
Now; that is a business model we - and the balance of English football for that matter - should be copying
Labovitch did not give a fig about Coventry City FC before he came here and won't give a fig when he leaves.
He brings nothing to this club.
Exactly but the likes of Grendel say it never works when fans have a say/stake in the club...They then only mention Portsmouth???
It only works in Germany because all clubs have to adhere to it. All clubs where the fan ownership had the majority share in England are league two or lower.
That's true - BUT - as with German businesses, it's a successful ethos, and shrewd business practise. As with works councils, and co-determining policies - allowing unions to shape and influence the direction of the business. I work for a German business with a turnover ranked in billions; and I tell you it works. And I don't need to lecture anyone about the success of German businesses.
In the same way, their football teams are well run. Yes, they have to adhere, but it's ingrained in any case - as it is with their businesses. Tell anyone over there a third tier team operates at player costs in excess of turnover, and they'll spit out their weissbier in astonishment. It's got less to do with legislation; and more to do with their understanding of good housekeeping
That's true - BUT - as with German businesses, it's a successful ethos, and shrewd business practise. As with works councils, and co-determining policies - allowing unions to shape and influence the direction of the business. I work for a German business with a turnover ranked in billions; and I tell you it works. And I don't need to lecture anyone about the success of German businesses.
In the same way, their football teams are well run. Yes, they have to adhere, but it's ingrained in any case - as it is with their businesses. Tell anyone over there a third tier team operates at player costs in excess of turnover, and they'll spit out their weissbier in astonishment. It's got less to do with legislation; and more to do with their understanding of good housekeeping
That's true - BUT - as with German businesses, it's a successful ethos, and shrewd business practise. As with works councils, and co-determining policies - allowing unions to shape and influence the direction of the business. I work for a German business with a turnover ranked in billions; and I tell you it works. And I don't need to lecture anyone about the success of German businesses.
In the same way, their football teams are well run. Yes, they have to adhere, but it's ingrained in any case - as it is with their businesses. Tell anyone over there a third tier team operates at player costs in excess of turnover, and they'll spit out their weissbier in astonishment. It's got less to do with legislation; and more to do with their understanding of good housekeeping
shows that the trust needs a shake up though, clearly more anti sisu than pro ccfc and its another hurdle to overcome
What get rid of any one who will not do what SISU want?
I don't think anybody should go on the word of sisu, rather find out what they think happened for a start.
Their is no offer on the table untill they build a new ground, "Lab has divided the fan base into two categories, those interested in bringing the two parties together to find a solution", so no new stadium as the two parties can only come together at the RICOHSimon, can you confirm if you / anyone at the CT has asked the council the following..
"what exactly is on the table in terms of a "short term rental deal" for CCFC to return to the Ricoh until they build the new ground ?"
As I've said before though. The lengths the Trust went to to avoid being seen as anti-Sisu (annexing KCIC, not chanting Sisu Out at matches, going to great pains to be equal to all sides) so to imply they were (as an organisation) anti-Sisu is incorrect, regardless of the views of their members. So much so that several members became frustrated at the softly softly approach.
Just to play devils advocate, its a bit rich for Jan from the trust to claim...
....however...
Personally, I'm sick of all this he said, she said, they said bullshit.
Who cares anymore....none of these people have any real influence on the situation.
OTIUM/Seppela....just make a real offer for the Ricoh or fuck off.
CCC/ACL...just name your price for the Ricoh or fuck off.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the idea of a supporters trust to have a body representing fans that the club answer too, not the other way around.
You are right, but surely the ability to work with the club is essential.
It's fine to disagree with them and want them out but you also need the ability to be able to communicate with them and clearly that has broken down.
But then, it seems, most fans are happier protesting and mud slinging and are not interested in constructive talks with the aim of bringing the club home.
Funny that anyone who has anything to do with our owners end up being alienated by them yet it is never their fault?
You are right, but surely the ability to work with the club is essential.
It's fine to disagree with them and want them out but you also need the ability to be able to communicate with them and clearly that has broken down.
But then, it seems, most fans are happier protesting and mud slinging and are not interested in constructive talks with the aim of bringing the club home.
Which bit of (the FREEHOLD of the RICOH is not for sale) do you not understand ?
"My house might not be for sale, but if someone made an offer I might consider it" Anne Lucas CCC Leader.
What part of that is not understood by Seppala and Fisher?
It has everything to do with legislation and more significantly everything to do with the greed is good league aka sky
A question: What would happen to CCFC if SISU went bust?
labovitch, you're oh so brave,
& you criticise 'trust' members,
p.s. they have supported the club for many years, & you've been hanging around for how long ?
& you say your going to organise a forum,
& you now start sniping at true City fans,
well, mr. wonderful, come & meet the fans,
we'd like to tell you what we think
How on earth was he ever an advisor for a PM?
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