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bigfatronssba

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  • Yesterday at 7:23 AM
  • #36
GIMOC said:
king won the lottery when he took over

he came in and within 6 months had a team at Wembley and joined on an upward curve

During that summer got over 30mill in player sales

yes we are in a much better place off the pitch with the investment but that’s down to Robins and co who built the foundations in which made it possible to recoup 30 mill to invest

we haven’t made the next level with him yet and that’s what he will be judged on

let’s hope this season is ours
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Even lottery winners can mess things up though (remember that Michael Carroll?)

He could’ve sold Gyokeres and Hamer in the January window when we were still mid table
 
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Deity

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  • Yesterday at 7:26 AM
  • #37
GIMOC said:
Please get it right. Vik and Hamer paid for Grimes

king has improved us off the pitch but he came in at a time of an upward curve

we will never know but I wonder how he would have been taken if no Wembley that season, no 30 mill for Hamer and Vik etc

the guy won the lottery by getting us cheap. he’s not spent an awful amount on the club
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As a committed Coventry city fan why do you find it almost impossible to give King any credit ?

He didn’t get lucky, Hamer and Vik were assets of a business he bought after undertaking due diligence.

He then could have sold one or both in the January to instantly realise value for himself but he didn’t he in fact added to the squad in the January.

We missed out on promotion and the sale of Vik and Hamer was inevitable as both players wanted to leave. Again he got top dollar for them and again didn’t pocket the money but reinvested most of it in the playing squad in a way that would help create a sustainable approach to improving the squad for years to come.

The training facilities are at last worthy of being a championship team, our back room approach is modern, and our commercial activities have never been better ( even though they could still be improved further in my view )

He has made errors with ticket pricing in my view but we have 24,000 season ticket holders so I even I have to concede that in the short term it’s not damaging us.

if you speak to people in the business and agent side of the game they have nothing but positive things to say about Kings impact on the club and yet you a committed fan find it impossible to be anything other than unbalanced about him. Very odd.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 7:27 AM
  • #38
The time to judge King will be when he leaves and the state that the club is in when he does compared to when he arrived. By that metric, Robins clearly did a monumental job while the jury is out on King.
 
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bawtryneal

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  • Yesterday at 7:41 AM
  • #39
Ccfcisparks said:
He has got us from let me check. From the championship to the championship.

Another loyal subject of the blingdom
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Where does your negativity come from ?
What’s your issue with our chairman ?
Would be interested to know your thoughts.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Yesterday at 7:42 AM
  • #40
Balli001 said:
He took an opportunity and has made us a better club. Theres no denying that. Eventually he will get to the point where he needs to sell or get additional investment but for now we cant really argue with where we are.
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everyone would take where we are but to say that’s down to king is ludicrous

we are where we are because of Robins and boddy

they are the guys who got us through the doldrums

king inherited the groundworks nothing more or less
 

GIMOC

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  • Yesterday at 7:45 AM
  • #41
Deity said:
As a committed Coventry city fan why do you find it almost impossible to give King any credit ?

He didn’t get lucky, Hamer and Vik were assets of a business he bought after undertaking due diligence.

He then could have sold one or both in the January to instantly realise value for himself but he didn’t he in fact added to the squad in the January.

We missed out on promotion and the sale of Vik and Hamer was inevitable as both players wanted to leave. Again he got top dollar for them and again didn’t pocket the money but reinvested most of it in the playing squad in a way that would help create a sustainable approach to improving the squad for years to come.

The training facilities are at last worthy of being a championship team, our back room approach is modern, and our commercial activities have never been better ( even though they could still be improved further in my view )

He has made errors with ticket pricing in my view but we have 24,000 season ticket holders so I even I have to concede that in the short term it’s not damaging us.

if you speak to people in the business and agent side of the game they have nothing but positive things to say about Kings impact on the club and yet you a committed fan find it impossible to be anything other than unbalanced about him. Very odd.
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lol

I have praised him.
Off the pitch it’s more progressional but we haven’t progressed on the pitch. despite all the money spent etc..

He did win the lottery. he was one of the few owners in football who take over a club on an upward curve

most owners come in when a club is going downhill
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 7:45 AM
  • #42
GIMOC said:
everyone would take where we are but to say that’s down to king is ludicrous

we are where we are because of Robins and boddy

they are the guys who got us through the doldrums

king inherited the groundworks nothing more or less
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bawtryneal said:
Where does your negativity come from ?
What’s your issue with our chairman ?
Would be interested to know your thoughts.
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He’s put some decent infrastructure in yes, but to suggest he’s done more for the club than robins or some of those players listed is complete and utter disrespect
 
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wingy

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  • Yesterday at 7:46 AM
  • #43
Well we've had two play off since he came in he may only have to provide on or two more and he's fulfilled the brief of 3.from 5 , might be on the slide, might get promoted, might focus on other aims and lose focus and momentum might win out on every aspect.
 

bawtryneal

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  • Yesterday at 7:47 AM
  • #44
Ccfcisparks said:
He’s put some decent infrastructure in yes, but to suggest he’s done more for the club than robins or some of those players listed is complete and utter disrespect
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Why call him Bling ?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 7:47 AM
  • #45
wingy said:
Well we've had two play off since he came in he may only have to provide on or two more and he's fulfilled the brief of 3.from 5 , might be on the slide, might get promoted, might focus on other aims and lose focus and momentum might win out on every aspect.
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His own brief let’s note.

if we get 3 playoff finals of 5 but don’t get promoted he’s achieved nothing
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 7:48 AM
  • #46
bawtryneal said:
Why call him Bling ?
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Are you Will King?

a quick look through your posts and you were quite happy to call Fisher a C U N T and Seppala a Witch
 
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wingy

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  • Yesterday at 7:51 AM
  • #47
Ccfcisparks said:
Are you Will King?

a quick look through your posts and you were quite happy to call Fisher a C U N T and Seppala a Witch
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It's a term of affection,he should wear it well.
 

bawtryneal

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  • Yesterday at 7:51 AM
  • #48
I have total respect for Robins.
I know the guy well and always speak highly of him.
His time ran its course with us. He would be the first to say that.
My personal opinion is Doug King is doing a brilliant job behind the scenes and setting us on the path to the premier league against very very strong competition without premier league money.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Yesterday at 7:52 AM
  • #49
bigfatronssba said:
Even lottery winners can mess things up though (remember that Michael Carroll?)

He could’ve sold Gyokeres and Hamer in the January window when we were still mid table
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Hamer and Vik were never leaving in Jan

king is running us like a football club. because sisu neglected us, makes it look like an amazing job but in reality we are now no different to most clubs in the league for the exception of Wednesday

what matters now is on the pitch. that’s where he will need to earn his stripes and back Lampard
 

bawtryneal

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  • Yesterday at 7:52 AM
  • #50
Ccfcisparks said:
Are you Will King?

a quick look through your posts and you were quite happy to call Fisher a C U N T and Seppala a Witch
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No afraid not.
So why do you disrespect King.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Yesterday at 7:54 AM
  • #51
I’ve referred to this on the forum before, but it’s just childish how some posters refer to Doug King as “bling” or whatever else and I’m not sure why they do it.

King is clearly trying to make the club a more professional outfit with all the infrastructure and personnel changes, and it is nice to see our club not being run like a basket case, which can’t be said of previous owners.

I agree with GIMOC in that Robins and Viveash have to take a lot of credit from rebuilding us from where we were in League 2 to where we are and King will be judged on whether he can take us that final step back to the Premier League.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 7:57 AM
  • #52
bawtryneal said:
No afraid not.
So why do you disrespect King.
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Calling him Bling is nowhere comparable to calling someone a C U N T.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Yesterday at 7:57 AM
  • #53
GIMOC said:
lol

I have praised him.
Off the pitch it’s more progressional but we haven’t progressed on the pitch. despite all the money spent etc..

He did win the lottery. he was one of the few owners in football who take over a club on an upward curve

most owners come in when a club is going downhill
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he didn’t win the lottery. He came in to a failing football club which as you rightly say had a great manager and 2 outstanding players. Thats not lucky. Overall we were badly run and falling apart off the pitch.
You also can’t use the Vik and hamer paid for grimes as that money came in 18 months prior. A lot happened in that time so you can’t use that. So KKH was the Vik money also?

I’m not having a go I’m just picking you up on some points. We largely agree but you clearly dislike King for some reason which is fine but I think you will find most fans are really happy with him as am I. He has pretty much passed every test so far.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 7:58 AM
  • #54
bawtryneal said:
Why call him Bling ?
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I personally don't refer to him as bling, but to get upset about it is unhinged in my opinion.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 7:59 AM
  • #55
bawtryneal said:
I have total respect for Robins.
I know the guy well and always speak highly of him.
His time ran its course with us. He would be the first to say that.
My personal opinion is Doug King is doing a brilliant job behind the scenes and setting us on the path to the premier league against very very strong competition without premier league money.
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I have concerns over how we’re funding the operation given the levels of spending without significant sales the other way. Clearly if we sneak a promotion that becomes irrelevant but if we don’t, he needs an exit strategy and I hope that amounts to simply selling the club on. If it amounts to an asset stripping exercise, he’ll have a SISU-esque legacy.

So the jury is out for now.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 7:59 AM
  • #56
clint van damme said:
I personally don't refer to him as bling, but to get upset about it is unhinged in my opinion.
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Yes totally mental.
Next they’ll be expecting us to call him Sir Doug
 

bawtryneal

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  • Yesterday at 8:01 AM
  • #57
Ccfcisparks said:
Calling him Bling is nowhere comparable to calling someone a C U N T.
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Are you a politician ?
Why not answer the question without diverting onto a completely different topic.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 8:01 AM
  • #58
bawtryneal said:
Are you a politician ?
Why not answer the question without diverting onto a completely different topic.
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Calling him Bling is not disrespectful. I’d imagine he’d get a lot less upset about it than you.
 

clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 8:02 AM
  • #59
Ccfcisparks said:
Yes totally mental.
Next they’ll be expecting us to call him Sir Doug
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In a field more crowded than a Doha street market, to say he did more than Robins to rebuild this club, is right at the top of the maddest shit posted on this forum.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Yesterday at 8:03 AM
  • #60
Kingokings204 said:
he didn’t win the lottery. He came in to a failing football club which as you rightly say had a great manager and 2 outstanding players. Thats not lucky. Overall we were badly run and falling apart off the pitch.
You also can’t use the Vik and hamer paid for grimes as that money came in 18 months prior. A lot happened in that time so you can’t use that. So KKH was the Vik money also?

I’m not having a go I’m just picking you up on some points. We largely agree but you clearly dislike King for some reason which is fine but I think you will find most fans are really happy with him as am I. He has pretty much passed every test so far.
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we weren’t a failing club when he came in. we were an established championship team with years of success and progression

robins and adi coached players and turned the team into a playoff final team. that wasn’t down to king

he has improved the club off the pitch but only looks good because we were neglected before

we are now in a position where king has to take us to that next level. that’s where he will be judged imo
 

TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 8:03 AM
  • #61
Meet in the middle, Sir Douglas Bling. Compromise is good.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 8:04 AM
  • #62
TomRad85 said:
Meet in the middle, Sir Douglas Bling. Compromise is good.
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Deal.
 

clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 8:04 AM
  • #63
TomRad85 said:
Meet in the middle, Sir Douglas Bling. Compromise is good.
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Prefer Dougie B
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 8:07 AM
  • #64
Lamps said:
This is just plain stupid.

Some people on here just show disrespect to everyone. There's no need for it. No single person alone got us back to where we are now. What Robins did for us was heroic with what he was given. But it wouldn't have been possible without certain players that grew with us.

King has been better than we could have hoped for. He hasn't asset stripped and kept the money like he could have done. He has continued to put money in each season for running costs so we can keep this squad together and continue to improve it. He brought in Lampard and his team when the cheaper option would have been to keep Robins. He paid £3.5m on Grimes when he didn't fit 'the model' and we won't see a penny of it back. Yet on here so much disrespect is shown to him. Some people must have very short memories. How about comparing him to SISU?
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Night and day to most of the sisu reign
He’s running the club like a successful organisation
The two recent recruits are very impressive in ibbotson and Tyrell again
I think some think I have a beef with him - I don’t
Only on things I think we should have an opinion on
 
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Briles

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  • Yesterday at 8:10 AM
  • #65
I think the whole Bling thing started as a joke which wore thin but some people have stuck with it to appear quirky. I do cringe when I read it.
 
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Balli001

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  • Yesterday at 8:28 AM
  • #66
GIMOC said:
everyone would take where we are but to say that’s down to king is ludicrous

we are where we are because of Robins and boddy

they are the guys who got us through the doldrums

king inherited the groundworks nothing more or less
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Sorry i forgot Robins and Boddy financed all of the improvements to both on and off the pitch. Yes it was money generated from sales but the previous regime, to whcih Boddy was integral, would have sold both for peanuts and not reinvested at all.
To not give King any praise at all isnt just ludicrous it is just showing your personal vendetta against him.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Yesterday at 8:51 AM
  • #67
Balli001 said:
Sorry i forgot Robins and Boddy financed all of the improvements to both on and off the pitch. Yes it was money generated from sales but the previous regime, to whcih Boddy was integral, would have sold both for peanuts and not reinvested at all.
To not give King any praise at all isnt just ludicrous it is just showing your personal vendetta against him.
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boddy wasn’t the money guy however he was the one who initiated the connection of the club with the fans

he done many things which started our relationship back with the club and team

boddy might have had his flaws but he is one of the reasons why king could invest in the club

robins generated millions for this club along with adi with his coaching and getting us from L2 to the championship

if that wasn’t in place, king wouldn’t be in the position to improve the facilities etc.

like it or not, robins, adi and boddy are the reason the club where it is now
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Yesterday at 9:08 AM
  • #68
If anything I’m anti king… lack of ownership issues, council arguments and antagonistic executives has really made the off season and international breaks boring

bring back Tim Fisher!
 
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Lamps

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  • Yesterday at 9:11 AM
  • #69
GIMOC said:
Please get it right. Vik and Hamer paid for Grimes

king has improved us off the pitch but he came in at a time of an upward curve

we will never know but I wonder how he would have been taken if no Wembley that season, no 30 mill for Hamer and Vik etc

the guy won the lottery by getting us cheap. he’s not spent an awful amount on the club
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Are you saying King didn't get the max for them....much more than the vast majority thought possible...then spent the whole amount on new players and not keeping millions behind to cover running costs because he had no choice?

And try getting your calculator out. Before signing Grimes our transfers in had reached the money received from the sales of Gyokeres and Hamer. So where did this money come from?

Are you pissed off with King because you don't hear anything about our club anymore?
 
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Briles

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  • Yesterday at 9:13 AM
  • #70
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
If anything I’m anti king… lack of ownership issues, council arguments and antagonistic executives has really made the off season and international breaks boring

bring back Tim Fisher!
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Just had a quick look at what he's up to now

 
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