For those not seen it today on sky sports news. A must watch!!
A brave very frank interview that the fans like to hear a manager wanting to say in a interview but could that have a very damaging effect on the players in the long run.
RS has delicately gone about his assessments but largely said there not good enough but recently said there is league one and even championship performances in his players to keep them on board ...TM was quite clever in the way he worded his assessments, saying there very young..... MV not so saying they were not good enough and the leagues too good for them. That backfired badly against him... has Karl Robinson done just that last night in his interview.
A great insight to what managers face when players don't do there jobs tho
The main thing I took from it was that he implied that the players who'd come down from Premier League and Championship seemed to think League 1 was beneath them and are not prepared to put a shift inGave a good assessment, "40% of the squad don't care enough"
"Too many people got away with things for so long"
" don't deserve to wear the shirt"
"not won enough games on the pitch, at some stage the players have to stand up and be counted"
"Hard as a manager as you gotta keep motivation strong"
"For too long to many people dodged bullets and the manager will always get it in the neck"
"Some things happen before a game that I've not seen at a football club"
" I don't no wether they come into work every day and thank there lucky stars they are in this football club.
The main thing I took from it was that he implied that the players who'd come down from Premier League and Championship seemed to think League 1 was beneath them and are not prepared to put a shift in
It's a symptom of the rotten state of the game. In this particular case, the way PL teams hoover up all the young talent for relative peanuts then spit them out the other end when they're sure they're not going to make it to the top. Maddison's a good recent example. Will be 21 in November and would have played more times for us this season than he has in his total career to date. Instead he's had a loan in Scotland and now sitting in Norwich reserves on a tidy wedge, not getting a look in on the footy side.Yes, Sky sports new don't show the full 10 minute interview just the built points, but he singles out Ricky Holmes for his effort and commitment levels he puts in weekly and where he's come from. Like you say players that have dropped down the league think they've made there career as the money's in the bank already after a most likely decent first contract from academy's.
There hearts not in it, no fight no desire.
Fair play to him for saying it, I'm sure Russell Slades seen it and wished he'd said similar things in recent weeks because it's similar situations.
Managers are partly judged on these players registered to clubs on contracts they cannot move on.
Yep, cap squad sizes all the way through with a minimum % English players.It's a symptom of the rotten state of the game. In this particular case, the way PL teams hoover up all the young talent for relative peanuts then spit them out the other end when they're sure they're not going to make it to the top. Maddison's a good recent example. Will be 21 in November and would have played more times for us this season than he has in his total career to date. Instead he's had a loan in Scotland and now sitting in Norwich reserves on a tidy wedge, not getting a look in on the footy side.
I'd like to see squad size caps all the way down to youth levels as a start.
I think he is right. One major problem is that players regard it as just a job, and their club as simply their current employer. They never have the one-club commitment that fans have, and I suppose that is down to the fact that they have never actually been fans if they have been in the system from age 10 or so. All the badge-kissing stuff is just part of the job too. The bottom line is that players will just go to the club that offers them the most lucrative contract. Why else would players go to China or the Middle East?The main thing I took from it was that he implied that the players who'd come down from Premier League and Championship seemed to think League 1 was beneath them and are not prepared to put a shift in
I think he is right. One major problem is that players regard it as just a job, and their club as simply their current employer. They never have the one-club commitment that fans have, and I suppose that is down to the fact that they have never actually been fans if they have been in the system from age 10 or so. All the badge-kissing stuff is just part of the job too. The bottom line is that players will just go to the club that offers them the most lucrative contract. Why else would players go to China or the Middle East?
Loan players are a problem too. They are inevitably interested in sorting out their own careers and where they can go afterwards. It's easy to just walk away without a backward glance. It has happened time and time again with our loan players, the loan club is no more than a shop window or a rehab opportunity most of the time.
The loan player issue again ties in with capping the squad sizes. A lot of lower league teams rely on loans but it's because their own stars have been hoovered up. You've then got the problem that you describe about how much of a damn they really give and suddenly the whole experience has become devalued for the clubs receiving the players, the players themselves and most of all the fans. Football is in such a mess!I think he is right. One major problem is that players regard it as just a job, and their club as simply their current employer. They never have the one-club commitment that fans have, and I suppose that is down to the fact that they have never actually been fans if they have been in the system from age 10 or so. All the badge-kissing stuff is just part of the job too. The bottom line is that players will just go to the club that offers them the most lucrative contract. Why else would players go to China or the Middle East?
Loan players are a problem too. They are inevitably interested in sorting out their own careers and where they can go afterwards. It's easy to just walk away without a backward glance. It has happened time and time again with our loan players, the loan club is no more than a shop window or a rehab opportunity most of the time.
For those not seen it today on sky sports news. A must watch!!
A brave very frank interview that the fans like to hear a manager wanting to say in a interview but could that have a very damaging effect on the players in the long run.
I think it's more about football in general isn't it and the conditions for lower league teams in general
Situation with agents, loans, free transfers etc
Agree with him about players having to stand up and be counted though. With ownership issues like us and Charlton the players get an easy ride.
I think part of it is this level is full of rejects and has-beens because young talent gets snapped up far too early then drops down rather than breaking through at this level and moving up.
Anyone with a sniff of talent gets promoted beyond their ability because of the desperation of the teams above us.
20 years ago the likes of Maddison would still be here carving out a career, Harries would be nowhere near Liverpool, etc. Now 10 good games and you've made it and think youre better than this and some dick head agent is telling you that in your ear while some club with more money than sense is willing to take a chance just in case you are. All feeds into each other.
I can honestly say that not one single squad member this season has stood out and really made a difference for us, dug in when the going gets tough, picked up his team-mates.
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