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dongonzalos · Feb 26, 2014

ajsccfc said:
He did absolutely nothing in his time with us to suggest this. All we had with McDonald is the same with Eastwood, the blind assumption that he has to come good eventually.

Eastwood had his chance as an out and out striker who tried. Eastwood had skill galore but clearly never tried.

stupot07 · Feb 26, 2014

shy_tall_knight said:
Although cody had a disappointing season when we were relegated he has scored 1 in 2 at Gillingham since he left us. The relegation squad lacked pace throughout, Sheffers and Platt being prime examples and Clingan Hussey and Bell were just terrible players in that final season. Nimley won a lot of penalties and I wouldn't judge him too harshly always tried hard. Having lost so many players from the previous season SISU made no attempt to build a squad sufficient to compete, bringing in a loan signing in Gary Gardener for just 4 games was pointless.

Exactly the squad was not good enough to compete and managed by a poor manager. We knew we were getting relegated before we'd even kicked a ball. We wouldn't have stayed up had we kept juke, frustrating as a fan yes, outrageous decision, no. Selling juke in January wasn't the reason we went down, the combination of poor squad/poor manager was

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stupot07 · Feb 26, 2014

wingy said:
It's worth pointing out that we sold circa £3M. across that season and for what we paid for McDonald Marlon could have had his 3rd year,without requiring a transfer fee
So would we. then have stayed up and consequently would we have needed to sell Turner. Juke. Keogh

Technically Keogh was the following season, but agree with the sentiments.

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stupot07 · Feb 26, 2014

dongonzalos said:
If only we could
Six and a half years would do for me.
Chance the administration that time round.
Wonder who would have appeared....

If only, should have took administration and relegation back then, could have then restructured the wage bill to stop overpaying for less than average players.

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dongonzalos · Feb 26, 2014

stupot07 said:
If only, should have took administration and relegation back then, could have then restructured the wage bill to stop overpaying for less than average players.

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Yep

Or more importantly got an owner who either knew what they were doing or actually gave a damn about the actual football club.

dongonzalos · Feb 26, 2014

stupot07 said:
Exactly the squad was not good enough to compete and managed by a poor manager. We knew we were getting relegated before we'd even kicked a ball. We wouldn't have stayed up had we kept juke, frustrating as a fan yes, outrageous decision, no. Selling juke in January wasn't the reason we went down, the combination of poor squad/poor manager was

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Barnsley stayed up
How many more did they score than us?
How many more did they concede?
Keeping your top striker is always a good idea even if it costs you 500k. Especially if you can borrow 30 million to build a stadium that is not really needed....

Grendel · Feb 26, 2014

dongonzalos said:
Yep

Or more importantly got an owner who either knew what they were doing or actually gave a damn about the actual football club.

And the small matter in the final season of not having the worst manager in our history. We could have let him sign 11 players in January - only 2 would have been decent,

Grendel · Feb 27, 2014

dongonzalos said:
McDonald shit.......

Played as a striker week in week out will score.
If we had him over the last 2 months we would be in the play offs. SP's only second mistake.

Nimely how many assists, how many more with Juke?

Norwood feeding nimley juke and Cody IMO would have meant 5 million saved

McDonald played 23 games in the season and 17 in the second half

Nimeley had 3 assists.

Juke Nimeley and McDonald wouldn't have been in the same team

The fact that you seriously think we would have been play off contenders in the second half of the season with Thorn as manager shows you are a complete idiot

dongonzalos · Feb 27, 2014

Grendel said:
McDonald played 23 games in the season and 17 in the second half

Nimeley had 3 assists.

Juke Nimeley and McDonald wouldn't have been in the same team

The fact that you seriously think we would have been play off contenders in the second half of the season with Thorn as manager shows you are a complete idiot

How many for 90 minutes?
How many as an out and out striker?

How many assists in how many games for nimley? How many that were assists but were from his run but not the penultimate touch.

Back in your box.....

dongonzalos · Feb 27, 2014

Grendel said:
And the small matter in the final season of not having the worst manager in our history. We could have let him sign 11 players in January - only 2 would have been decent,

I rate SP, pretty sure you do.
How has his signings gone this year.
When you are forced to shop at cashconverters you do your best ......

stupot07 · Feb 27, 2014

dongonzalos said:
Barnsley stayed up
How many more did they score than us?
How many more did they concede?
Keeping your top striker is always a good idea even if it costs you 500k. Especially if you can borrow 30 million to build a stadium that is not really needed....

Barnsley had 14 more points than us when juke left. They scored and conceded more. Sorry but you won't convince me that we'd have stayed up with Juke.

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dongonzalos · Feb 27, 2014

stupot07 said:
Barnsley had 14 more points than us when juke left. They scored and conceded more. Sorry but you won't convince me that we'd have stayed up with Juke.

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dongonzalos · Feb 27, 2014

dongonzalos said:
They scored 8 more
And you are right conceeded far more.
8 goals on jukes form without nimley and Norwood helping him?
I probably won't convince however that is not the same as you been right

covcity4life · Feb 27, 2014

prices are usualy inflated in january window

so why would he go for 5m in summer?

dumbass.

dongonzalos · Feb 27, 2014

covcity4life said:
prices are usualy inflated in january window

so why would he go for 5m in summer?

dumbass.

The irony here is poetic.

As a dumbass ass I am not even going to bother explain it.

Priceless

ajsccfc · Feb 27, 2014

dongonzalos said:
Eastwood had his chance as an out and out striker who tried. Eastwood had skill galore but clearly never tried.

McDonald was reported as being out of shape and had plenty of time behind the scenes to impress here and clearly failed. If he's doing ok elsewhere good for him, but that doesn't mean that he'd have been doing the same here if only we had played him with fingers crossed.

covcity4life · Feb 27, 2014

dongonzalos said:
The irony here is poetic.

As a dumbass ass I am not even going to bother explain it.

Priceless

so you cant answer the question.

stop making threads.

dongonzalos · Feb 27, 2014

covcity4life said:
so you cant answer the question.

stop making threads.

Have a re-read then in the future think before calling someone a dumb ass

Grendel · Feb 27, 2014

ajsccfc said:
McDonald was reported as being out of shape and had plenty of time behind the scenes to impress here and clearly failed. If he's doing ok elsewhere good for him, but that doesn't mean that he'd have been doing the same here if only we had played him with fingers crossed.

Exactly. He stared 15 games in the championship and scored twice. He played the last 8 games and scored once. His other two goals were from the bench.

All 3 managers (including thorn) he played with ways seemed to look at options other than him.

What the obsession is with him I don't know. If he was capable to score goals at championship level he'd be in the championship doing exactly that.

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