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LB87ccfc

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  • Jan 26, 2015
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Just a genuine thought, would it be possible to actually arrange a complete boycott for one game ( with a view to further planned if successful) of home games, just to see the response in the media etc.

Many have said tickets do not touch the surface with wages but a ticket at average of £22 a pop say 4k are purchased generates £88,000 - 4k season ticket holders -additional funds already in the club, then we now gain a small % within other areas on a matchday.

Basically we generate over £100,000 per home game, every two weeks, so £50,000 per week on average, we have players on £1,800 a week or less - £30,000 paid per week in wages for example.

So we are paying the wages to a certain extent.

However under the new agreement SISU only profit from the home attendances that us fans generate, this is what they are hanging on to, Ok they are making a loss on the operation of the club, but its the ticket revenue that helps the loss more sustainable.

Fans are voting with their feet already and I get that, but just for queries sake, would it be possible to actually have virtually no one going inside for the sake of the future of Coventry City Football Club, yes we all love to watch us play I get that, but why are SISU still hanging around with NO desire to build bridges with the customer, no idea on how to run a sustainable football business, loading us with more and more debt that we simply will never be rid off unless we are liquidated, and most likely have a business model that is set out for league two football as they will be able to put even less into the football operation funding pot knowing that wage structures are even lower meaning we can just tick over even further under their regime.

I am not saying this is a must and I am not looking for posters to start arguing but would it do any harm is my general question.

Please take into consideration for those who say this would end the club if we did this on a regular basis blah blah, under SISU's leadership the club is already dead, can you remember the good times over the years the match day experience walking up to HR or even on some championship matches the Ricoh.

Their is no Wilson to sell this summer so what is next.

( I already understand a complete boycott is not possible as you will still get 1k fans inside at the least but still would cause embarrassment to SISU)
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #2
NOPE move on. at least 5k dieheards who will always go. Who is to say they are not right as well?
 
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LB87ccfc

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #3
AndreasB said:
NOPE move on. at least 5k dieheards who will always go. Who is to say they are not right as well?
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Ok Tim sorry
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #4
Don't think it would work and I don't think you could expect it to.
 
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LB87ccfc

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #5
torchomatic said:
Don't think it would work and I don't think you could expect it to.
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I wouldn't be expecting anything to be honest, just was a general query to see what people thought etc.
 

Silence_Is_The_Enemy

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #6
if 1k wouldnt boycott games at sixfields i doubt you could get them to boycott a game in coventry i know i wouldnt
 
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shy_tall_knight

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #7
AndreasB said:
NOPE move on. at least 5k dieheards who will always go. Who is to say they are not right as well?
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I think you are inflating that figure somehow, the official attendances can't be believed but I can see crowds pf 3-4 k next year if we continue as we are, around by me ST holders for many years there is huge disillusionment and many don't turn up anymore but are included in the official attendance.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #8
The only net result would be a load of fans bitching at each other, thus letting owners + others off the hook as everyone's distracted into whether they're morally better than their fellow fans or not.
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #9
LB87ccfc said:
Ok Tim sorry
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Its TIMMY, you fucking walloper.
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #10
shy_tall_knight said:
I think you are inflating that figure somehow, the official attendances can't be believed but I can see crowds pf 3-4 k next year if we continue as we are, around by me ST holders for many years there is huge disillusionment and many don't turn up anymore but are included in the official attendance.
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Why cant official attendances be believed? Not everything is a conspiracy you know.
 

skybluebeduff

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #11
First of all you should ask the majority of the fans not this minority of anonymous users
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #12
skybluebeduff said:
First of all you should ask the majority of the fans not this minority of anonymous users
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Quite right, this forum is full of frothing at the mouth NOPM types.
 
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DaleM

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #13
AndreasB said:
Quite right, this forum is full of frothing at the mouth NOPM types.
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And one man band protestors
 

albatross

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #14
why not expand to a 2 game protest . 1 ) Fill the Ricoh and 2) empty the Ricoh.

would be a powerful demonstration of what the club could be at either ends of the Spectrum. Powerful reminder to SISU and also to any other potential investor that CCFC does have a considerable FAN base.
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #15
LB87ccfc said:
Just a genuine thought, would it be possible to actually arrange a complete boycott for one game (
with a view to further planned if successful) of home games, just to see the response in the media etc.

Many have said tickets do not touch the surface with wages but a ticket at average of £22 a pop say 4k are purchased generates £88,000 - 4k season ticket holders -additional funds already in the club, then we now gain a small % within other areas on a matchday.

Basically we generate over £100,000 per home game, every two weeks, so £50,000 per week on average, we have players on £1,800 a week or less - £30,000 paid per week in wages for example.

So we are paying the wages to a certain extent.

However under the new agreement SISU only profit from the home attendances that us fans generate, this is what they are hanging on to, Ok they are making a loss on the operation of the club, but its the ticket revenue that helps the loss more sustainable.

Fans are voting with their feet already and I get that, but just for queries sake, would it be possible to actually have virtually no one going inside for the sake of the future of Coventry City Football Club, yes we all love to watch us play I get that, but why are SISU still hanging around with NO desire to build bridges with the customer, no idea on how to run a sustainable football business, loading us with more and more debt that we simply will never be rid off unless we are liquidated, and most likely have a business model that is set out for league two football as they will be able to put even less into the football operation funding pot knowing that wage structures are even lower meaning we can just tick over even further under their regime.

I am not saying this is a must and I am not looking for posters to start arguing but would it do any harm is my general question.

Please take into consideration for those who say this would end the club if we did this on a regular basis blah blah, under SISU's leadership the club is already dead, can you remember the good times over the years the match day experience walking up to HR or even on some championship matches the Ricoh.

Their is no Wilson to sell this summer so what is next.

( I already understand a complete boycott is not possible as you will still get 1k fans inside at the least but still would cause embarrassment to SISU)
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You make a good argument. I've never been a believer in NOPM but that was a temporary measure in response to the Northampton situation. I believe this could have some impact if it were handled the right way. I think you would need to:
1. Identify a game some time away to allow momentum to grow.
2. Tell the club it is going to happen, why and what change (realistically) the fans want to see.
3. Get all fan groups on board.
4. Accept that it will cost us where it hurts us - on the pitch.
5. Organise a large and vocal presence outside the ground on the day.
6. Get as much publicity as possible.
7. Call for something that has been rare of late - fan unity ( for a day at least)
8. Assuming success, inform the club of the next identified protest game.

Good luck.
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #16
Oh and why not ask anyone not attending to donate the cash they would have spent to a charity, this will help with publicity.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #17
No chance. If it couldn't happen at Suxfields it isn't going to happen in Coventry.

It would make a bold statement though.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #18
skybluetony176 said:
No chance. If it couldn't happen at Suxfields it isn't going to happen in Coventry.

It would make a bold statement though.
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The bolder statement would be 30,000 walking out of the ground...
 

Samo

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #19
skybluetony176 said:
No chance. If it couldn't happen at Suxfields it isn't going to happen in Coventry.

It would make a bold statement though.
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Strangely though, things are a lot worse now. At least then we had hope.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #20
one point, there is no way we have 5000 die hard fans.

I would say the die hard fans number about 1400 approx. , who are the ones who went to sixfields.

Die hard means ,go whatever the circumstances

Anyway im getting so bored of all this constant shite, its getting depressing supporting this bloody club
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #21
DaleM said:
And one man band protestors
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Worked though didn't it sweetie?


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AndreasB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #22
albatross said:
why not expand to a 2 game protest . 1 ) Fill the Ricoh and 2) empty the Ricoh.

would be a powerful demonstration of what the club could be at either ends of the Spectrum. Powerful reminder to SISU and also to any other potential investor that CCFC does have a considerable FAN base.
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Fucks sake.


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ccfcway

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #23
AndreasB said:
NOPE move on. at least 5k dieheards who will always go. Who is to say they are not right as well?
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unless its against Swindon, where 25% of those "die hards" who had paid to go via a season ticket didn't turn up.

The protest is happening, just slowly.
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #24
ccfcway said:
unless its against Swindon, where 25% of those "die hards" who had paid to go via a season ticket didn't turn up.

The protest is happening, just slowly.
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That's a fact is it ? Another rumour /myth that has grown into Gospel Truth on here.


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Grendel

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #25
ccfcway said:
unless its against Swindon, where 25% of those "die hards" who had paid to go via a season ticket didn't turn up.

The protest is happening, just slowly.
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Can you supply any evidence or is that just lazy bullshit as usual?
 

ccfcway

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #26
AndreasB said:
That's a fact is it ? Another rumour /myth that has grown into Gospel Truth on here.
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7098 for a league game in Coventry. As a "fact" when was the late time we had a lower league attendance ?
 

ccfcway

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #27
Grendel said:
Can you supply any evidence or is that just lazy bullshit as usual?
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Funnily enough, I didnt count all of the attendance as I wasn't there. A lot of people said there was nearer 5k than 7k, as the season ticket holders count as they have paid. When you factor in the swindon fans and walk ups, its hardly needs the imagination of the derren brown to work out that many season ticket holders didnt turn up.
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #28
ccfcway said:
7098 for a league game in Coventry. As a "fact" when was the late time we had a lower league attendance ?
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That's not what you said though. You said 25% of season ticket holders didn't go. You presented it as fact.


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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #29
AndreasB said:
Why cant official attendances be believed? Not everything is a conspiracy you know.
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It is if you are really Timmy :guitar2:
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #30
ccfcway said:
Funnily enough, I didnt count all of the attendance as I wasn't there. A lot of people said there was nearer 5k than 7k, as the season ticket holders count as they have paid. When you factor in the swindon fans and walk ups, its hardly needs the imagination of the derren brown to work out that many season ticket holders didnt turn up.
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Do you know how many season ticket holders there are this season? Less than 5000.
Oh and it was on the TV in case you had forgotten. Perhaps they were "not watching" at home, you know, in the spirit of their alleged protest.


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AndreasB

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #31
Sky Blue Harry H said:
It is if you are really Timmy :guitar2:
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Or every other chief exec of this club who has "lied" about attendances. That's what you are claiming isn't it?


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ccfcway

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #32
AndreasB said:
That's not what you said though. You said 25% of season ticket holders didn't go. You presented it as fact.
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no i didnt, I didnt say "FACT" after it.
 

ccfcway

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #33
AndreasB said:
Do you know how many season ticket holders there are this season? Less than 5000.
Oh and it was on the TV in case you had forgotten. Perhaps they were "not watching" at home, you know, in the spirit of their alleged protest.
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Any news on what TV channel the Wallsall and Notts County games were on when we only got 8k at those ?

Attendances are dropping and people are voting with their feet.

As a fan base, we will never agree on way fwd with protests, so what appears to be happening is the interest dwindles and people dont go.
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #34
ccfcway said:
Any news on what TV channel the Wallsall and Notts County games were on when we only got 8k at those ?

Attendances are dropping and people are voting with their feet.

As a fan base, we will never agree on way fwd with protests, so what appears to be happening is the interest dwindles and people dont go.
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Yet Gillingham got 27,000, how odd the rot set in after one week. That's some fucking dwindling.


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ccfcway

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  • Jan 26, 2015
  • #35
AndreasB said:
Yet Gillingham got 27,000, how odd the rot set in after one week. That's some fucking dwindling.
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Gillingham was at the start of Sept wasnt it ? Wallsall and Notts County was into Dec / Jan werent they ?.

Having said that, I remember the attendance dropped very heavily for the next home game after Gillingham didnt it
 
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