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Junior Brown (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter higgs
  • Start date Aug 8, 2019
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higgs

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #1
Are we still paying this guy's wages?
Does he even train with the first team squad anymore?

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JoshCCFC1987

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #2
Of course we are why wouldn’t we be
 

HerneBayGaz

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #3
Still under contract. Can go if he finds a new club.
 

skyblueeyesrevisited

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #4
Maybe Sunderland will have him
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #5
Madness really, is he on a good deal here that nobody else will match?

Obviously been a fall out
 

Esoterica

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #6
Given his stock was pretty high when we signed him I bet he's on a fair whack too which is probably the reason we've had issues moving him on.
 

no_loyalty

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #7
Not even playing for the under 23's, hopefully cancel his contract by mutual consent.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #8
Bit weird, there's not even been the usual rumours about him being a pisshead or troublemaker.
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #9
I did hear he had a fall out with MR, but not sure what about, probably something about not being allowed to have a shot at goal I'd imagine.
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #10
Always rated mason as the better player need this guy off the books ASAP
 
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HerneBayGaz

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  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #11
cc84cov said:
Always rated mason as the better player need this guy off the books ASAP
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Not forgetting young Sam McCallum. He is better then junior Brown.
 
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PeterNdlovu14

Active Member
  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #12
The season prior to us signing him he did well in a good Shrewsbury team but didn't he also sustain a bad injury?

Secondly Mason has come in and is steadily improving. McCallum looks a good prospect; from a business perspective it makes sense to free the pathway for Mason and McCallum to compete bearing in mind they are younger and will have a higher potential value to cash in on.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #13
chiefdave said:
Bit weird, there's not even been the usual rumours about him being a pisshead or troublemaker.
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Ah, the two main categories for everyone on this site
 
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better days

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #14
It's a strange one
I believe there was a club interested in taking him in pre season but they were rebuffed as it was felt Brown would be more involved this season
It's obviously not worked out that way though
 

ccfc1234

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  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #15
chiefdave said:
Bit weird, there's not even been the usual rumours about him being a pisshead or troublemaker.
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As I think his absence is related to his ability or lack of in relation to Mason and we have an up and coming youngster also.
Surly if we pay 30% of his wages to get the other 70% off the books it would be good business?
 

higgs

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  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #16
I thought we had signed the best left back in the division and no doubt he is being paid accordingly. Surely someone would take him on loan to get some of the wages off the books himself and ogogo turned out to be disastrous signings

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Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #17
chiefdave said:
Bit weird, there's not even been the usual rumours about him being a pisshead or troublemaker.
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Been loads of rumours about him being disruptive in the dressing room. I heard that he was pissing people off and moaning about stuff almost immediately after arriving.
 

clint van damme

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  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #18
Liquid Gold said:
Been loads of rumours about him being disruptive in the dressing room. I heard that he was pissing people off and moaning about stuff almost immediately after arriving.
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Yet there are morons on this hallowed portal calling Max a leech, some of our support, fucking brainless.
 
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rob9872

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  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #19
Back from serious injury and on high wages. It didn't work out, sometimes it doesn't, bit he has a contract and if nobody matches it, i can't blame him. Need to agree a pay off tbf. Thats life, no grudges. No disruption either from what I heard. Shame as i had high hopes. Same for Ogogo really.
 

stevefloyd

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  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #20
It wouldnt be the same unless we had someone at the club who was paid for doing fuck all...ie stuart beavon junior brown julian gray etc
 

rob9872

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  • Aug 8, 2019
  • #21
stevefloyd said:
It wouldnt be the same unless we had someone at the club who was paid for doing fuck all...ie stuart beavon junior brown julian gray etc
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Yeah but in Gray and Brown we currently have two of them
 
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Loughborough Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #22
rob9872 said:
Yeah but in Gray and Brown we currently have two of them
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Oh dear... I thought everyone had heard by now, but Gray's gone. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news!
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #23
HerneBayGaz said:
Not forgetting young Sam McCallum. He is better then junior Brown.
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He really isn’t
 
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oucho

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  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #24
higgs said:
himself and Ogogo turned out to be disastrous signings
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That's putting a bit strongly in both cases, particularly Brown's!

chiefdave said:
Bit weird, there's not even been the usual rumours about him being a pisshead or troublemaker.
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Plenty of time for us to start putting these rumours about!!!
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #25
Grendel said:
He really isn’t
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I don’t think much to McCallum times I’ve see him play even at under 23 level he seems very average always has a mistake in him,Brown is the better player from the 2 agreed at different stages of their careers.
 
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HerneBayGaz

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  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #26
Grendel said:
He really isn’t
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That's your opinion. I respect that. But I don't agree.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #27
HerneBayGaz said:
That's your opinion. I respect that. But I don't agree.
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Based on what? He looked poor last season. Brown would given his game experience clearly be s better option
 

Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #28
cc84cov said:
I don’t think much to McCallum times I’ve see him play even at under 23 level he seems very average always has a mistake in him,Brown is the better player from the 2 agreed at different stages of their careers.
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Mark Robins was hinting at the kit launch do that Mason will really have to be on the top of his game to keep McCallum out this season. He obviously rates him. When he played last season you could see the potential he has even though he was a bit rocky at times.
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #29
Grendel said:
Based on what? He looked poor last season. Brown would given his game experience clearly be s better option
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A tad harsh, there were a few games where he looked decent. He also had 1 or two where he looked poor. Would be naive to suggest he's ahead of Brown for sure, but I've seen enough to suggest there is ability there, just needs to find consistency.
 

Hobo

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  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #30
Irish Sky Blue said:
Mark Robins was hinting at the kit launch do that Mason will really have to be on the top of his game to keep McCallum out this season. He obviously rates him. When he played last season you could see the potential he has even though he was a bit rocky at times.
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Nothing like a manager trying to motivate two players is there.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #31
cc84cov said:
I don’t think much to McCallum times I’ve see him play even at under 23 level he seems very average always has a mistake in him,Brown is the better player from the 2 agreed at different stages of their careers.
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He is very raw, but he hasn't come from an established academy so that's arguably to be expected.

MR clearly thinks highly of him and wants him to develop, but I think he needs to time in the U23 than first team to do that. I certainly can't see the reason why he's being fast-tracked towards the first team ahead of Brown at this moment in time, unless there is some other underlying reason.
 

better days

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #32
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
He is very raw, but he hasn't come from an established academy so that's arguably to be expected.

MR clearly thinks highly of him and wants him to develop, but I think he needs to time in the U23 than first team to do that. I certainly can't see the reason why he's being fast-tracked towards the first team ahead of Brown at this moment in time, unless there is some other underlying reason.
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McCallum is only 18 so naturally he's still learning the game, especially the defensive side
He's very athletic, has decent pace and gets up and down the field
Expect a lot of interest from clubs higher up the pyramid once he establishes himself
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #33
better days said:
McCallum is only 18 so naturally he's still learning the game, especially the defensive side
He's very athletic, has decent pace and gets up and down the field
Expect a lot of interest from clubs higher up the pyramid once he establishes himself
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Good point 18 years old still we must remember
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #34
better days said:
McCallum is only 18 so naturally he's still learning the game, especially the defensive side
He's very athletic, has decent pace and gets up and down the field
Expect a lot of interest from clubs higher up the pyramid once he establishes himself
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That's sort of the point I was making - he's still very young and being fast tracked towards the first team ahead of Brown at this point in time when he needs to develop both physically and tactically doesn't seem like the best course of action to me.

I'm not saying he doesn't have potential or ability, I just think he needs some edges knocking off in the U23 for a bit yet. I expect him to only play the occasional part in the first team with Mason being used predominantly, but if Mason got injured I'm not sure what route MR would go.
 

higgs

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2019
  • #35
Must be something going on behind the scenes with brown it just doesn't make sense

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