Non AMP
Sky Blues Talk
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Coventry City General Chat
This is a mobile optimized page that loads fast, if you want to load the real page, click this text.

Jude Bellingham (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter robbiethemole
  • Start date Jul 3, 2020
Forums New posts
R

robbiethemole

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #1
played a few times for Brum, now going to Borussia Dortmund for a reported £23m. How much would players we've sold in the last few years have gone for if we'd been in the Championship? Most on here always reckon we undersell, so maybe some of them are right.
 
Reactions: Sky Blue Pete and no_loyalty

PUSB-We_are_going_up

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #2
Maddison would have gone for 30 mil
Lol
 

Mr Panda

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #3
I think we'd have commanded a much higher fee for someone like Maddison for example. But Jude Bellingham is unique in that he's 17, intelligent beyond his years (in footballing terms), physically developed in a way I will never reach even as someone 11 years his senior. He's only going to get bigger, stronger and faster.

He's in a different category to people like Tom Bayliss.
 
Reactions: CanadianCCFC, GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee, Covstar and 5 others
M

Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #4
Bloody hell he’s only just turned 17 too, what this deal has done has put up values of similar aged proteges at clubs. Game has gone mad.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #5
Magwitch said:
Bloody hell he’s only just turned 17 too, what this deal has done has put up values of similar aged proteges at clubs. Game has gone mad.
Click to expand...

will bapega? 16 yrs old

edit: Maybe we could sell him for a lot
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #6
Magwitch said:
Bloody hell he’s only just turned 17 too, what this deal has done has put up values of similar aged proteges at clubs. Game has gone mad.
Click to expand...

Not really Bellingham is unique, the £20 million rising to £30 million will be a drop in the ocean when he’s sold for x3 that amount further down the line.

The support base round him is unbelievable and injury preventing this lad will have one of helluva career both at club and internationally.

Keep an eye out for his younger brother Jobe who’s 15.
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #7
Do they get Mccallum for free. as he still has Bellingham in his pocket.
 
Reactions: lordy_87, ccfchoi87, Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue and 13 others

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #8
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Maddison would have gone for 30 mil
Lol
Click to expand...
Maddison was sold in the Championship and didn't go for £30m

LOLLLZZ LMFAO LOLOLOLOL ROFL
 
Reactions: PUSB-We_are_going_up

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #9
robbiethemole said:
played a few times for Brum, now going to Borussia Dortmund for a reported £23m. How much would players we've sold in the last few years have gone for if we'd been in the Championship? Most on here always reckon we undersell, so maybe some of them are right.
Click to expand...

Well we'd have got roughly what norwich sold maddison for, and callum Wilson would have demanded a much larger fee. Probably missed out on a good 15 - 25 million
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #10
Evo1883 said:
Well we'd have got roughly what norwich sold maddison for, and callum Wilson would have demanded a much larger fee. Probably missed out on a good 15 - 25 million
Click to expand...
Or, we kept hold of Wilson and Maddison in an attempt to sell them in the Championship and folded because our outgoings dwarfed our incomings.
 

skyblueelephant76

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #11
robbiethemole said:
played a few times for Brum, now going to Borussia Dortmund for a reported £23m. How much would players we've sold in the last few years have gone for if we'd been in the Championship? Most on here always reckon we undersell, so maybe some of them are right.
Click to expand...
It's not just about being in the championship, they have to play well there too. For every Maddison and Wilson there is a Stevenson, Harries and Thomas who've never progressed.

Bayliss is another. I know he's had injuries this season but even when he was fit he was struggling to even make the bench at Preston. £2m is currently looking like a good deal.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #12
Liquid Gold said:
Or, we kept hold of Wilson and Maddison in an attempt to sell them in the Championship and folded because our outgoings dwarfed our incomings.
Click to expand...

No way would Joy let us fold at the moment.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #13
shmmeee said:
No way would Joy let us fold at the moment.
Click to expand...
Been a decade since we sold Wilson
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #14
Liquid Gold said:
Been a decade since we sold Wilson
Click to expand...

She wouldn’t let us fold then either. We’ve been loss making since she took over and exist entirely at her behest. While she’d lose more than she’s put in we’re safe IMHO.

Not disagreeing about the sales BTW, I support the transfer policy 100%.
 
Reactions: mr_monkey
M

Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #15
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
Not really Bellingham is unique, the £20 million rising to £30 million will be a drop in the ocean when he’s sold for x3 that amount further down the line.

The support base round him is unbelievable and injury preventing this lad will have one of helluva career both at club and internationally.

Keep an eye out for his younger brother Jobe who’s 15.
Click to expand...
There are scouts at our academy games all the time looking for the gem player who can be sold on, there is a transfer network even at under 16 level. Behind the glamour it’s a harsh world and top clubs paying 50/100 grand for a young hopeful is chicken feed but 23million is mind boggling.
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #16
Liquid Gold said:
Been a decade since we sold Wilson
Click to expand...
Didn't realise decades were measured in six year intervals
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #17
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Didn't realise decades were measured in six year intervals
Click to expand...
Feels like a lot longer than that
 
Reactions: GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee and PUSB-We_are_going_up

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #18
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Didn't realise decades were measured in six year intervals
Click to expand...
Liquid Gold said:
Feels like a lot longer than that
Click to expand...
This has seriously blown my mind a little bit. Ricoh return, Presley losing it, Reda's piss, having all those shit Bournemouth loans, Mowbray keeping us up, Maddison coming though, Armstrong, Kent and Murphy, Armstrong being sold, running away with the league, wheels falling right off, Fortunè, Mowbray trying to sign Championship players and ending up with Dre Wright, not winning in. 10, Mowbray resining, Venus the saviour, Slade the saviour, Robins return, Chacktrade final, League two relegation, FGR games, Doyle being back, Notts County away and Wembley promotion, Sacking off Grimmer and co for new players, Birmingham move, Dabo, Walsh, Marosi and winning the fucking league.

All in 6 years
 
Reactions: win9nut, rob9872, Iancro and 6 others

jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #19
Liquid Gold said:
This has seriously blown my mind a little bit. Ricoh return, Presley losing it, Reda's piss, having all those shit Bournemouth loans, Mowbray keeping us up, Maddison coming though, Armstrong, Kent and Murphy, Armstrong being sold, running away with the league, wheels falling right off, Fortunè, Mowbray trying to sign Championship players and ending up with Dre Wright, not winning in. 10, Mowbray resining, Venus the saviour, Slade the saviour, Robins return, Chacktrade final, League two relegation, FGR games, Doyle being back, Notts County away and Wembley promotion, Sacking off Grimmer and co for new players, Birmingham move, Dabo, Walsh, Marosi and winning the fucking league.

All in 6 years
Click to expand...

Ace innit...way better than just treading water in the championship for a decade.......rollercoaster always beats the merry-go-round.
 
Reactions: SAJ and PUSB-We_are_going_up
R

robbiethemole

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #20
Liquid Gold said:
This has seriously blown my mind a little bit. Ricoh return, Presley losing it, Reda's piss, having all those shit Bournemouth loans, Mowbray keeping us up, Maddison coming though, Armstrong, Kent and Murphy, Armstrong being sold, running away with the league, wheels falling right off, Fortunè, Mowbray trying to sign Championship players and ending up with Dre Wright, not winning in. 10, Mowbray resining, Venus the saviour, Slade the saviour, Robins return, Chacktrade final, League two relegation, FGR games, Doyle being back, Notts County away and Wembley promotion, Sacking off Grimmer and co for new players, Birmingham move, Dabo, Walsh, Marosi and winning the fucking league.

All in 6 years
Click to expand...
obviously not in date order? Armstrong was never ours to sell either
 
Reactions: PUSB-We_are_going_up

lord_garrincha

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #21
It might be another example of old beyond their years...

Three that spring to my mind are Norman Whiteside, Wayne Rooney (who were both done at the top level at 30) & Tom Huddlestone (didn't quite crack it at top level).
 

lord_garrincha

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #22
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Maddison would have gone for 30 mil
Lol
Click to expand...
4get about that m8... Do a thread about us signing Jude.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #23
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
Not really Bellingham is unique, the £20 million rising to £30 million will be a drop in the ocean when he’s sold for x3 that amount further down the line.

The support base round him is unbelievable and injury preventing this lad will have one of helluva career both at club and internationally.

Keep an eye out for his younger brother Jobe who’s 15.
Click to expand...
His dad was one hell of a goalscorer in nonleague & is a copper-good genes & should keep him on the straight & narrow! His dad always plays down his own ability as just being a goal-hanger, but he's one who I would have loved to see play in the league. Just a natural goalscorer. Good article: 700-up! Legendary striker Mark Bellingham on reaching the amazing milestone
 
Reactions: Earlsdon_Skyblue1
E

Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2020
  • #24
Mr Panda said:
I think we'd have commanded a much higher fee for someone like Maddison for example. But Jude Bellingham is unique in that he's 17, intelligent beyond his years (in footballing terms), physically developed in a way I will never reach even as someone 11 years his senior. He's only going to get bigger, stronger and faster.

He's in a different category to people like Tom Bayliss.
Click to expand...

Agreed on Bellingham being unique. He’s ran riot for a season in the Championship at the age of 16 and only just turned 17. The fact he’s got at least two enormous clubs bidding for him too increases his value.
When we sold Bayliss, Maddison, Wilson and McCallum, none were proven beyond League 1 and in their early 20s. Bellingham has been one of the best players in the Championship at 16/17. It’s not like for like to compare our transfer fees for Bellingham’s.

From what I’ve seen of him, Bellingham will go on to have a fantastic career and I think he has made the right footballing choice in Borussia Dortmund.
If I was him though, I would have stayed at Blues for the Roost alone!
 
L

Legia Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2020
  • #25
Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue said:
Agreed on Bellingham being unique. He’s ran riot for a season in the Championship at the age of 16 and only just turned 17. The fact he’s got at least two enormous clubs bidding for him too increases his value.
When we sold Bayliss, Maddison, Wilson and McCallum, none were proven beyond League 1 and in their early 20s. Bellingham has been one of the best players in the Championship at 16/17. It’s not like for like to compare our transfer fees for Bellingham’s.

From what I’ve seen of him, Bellingham will go on to have a fantastic career and I think he has made the right footballing choice in Borussia Dortmund.
If I was him though, I would have stayed at Blues for the Roost alone!
Click to expand...

Not disputing he is clearly a tremendous prospect, but you really are exaggerating the point to say he has run riot in the Championship this season. Mind you those 4 goals he has scored could be what keeps Birmingham up this season.
 

harvey098

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2020
  • #26
I’ve only seen Bellingham play against us but he was really poor. Maybe he just didn’t fancy it against lower league opposition but certainly didn’t stand out.
 
Y

Yorkshire SB

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2020
  • #27
16 years old, played almost every game in CM for a side in the championship, it’s unheard of. You’re paying for potential, but Dortmund are masters of this type of deal
 
Reactions: Frostie

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2020
  • #28
harvey098 said:
I’ve only seen Bellingham play against us but he was really poor. Maybe he just didn’t fancy it against lower league opposition but certainly didn’t stand out.
Click to expand...
I wouldn't say he was really poor. You could clearly see his potential without him dominating the game.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2020
  • #29
He didn’t stand out in our games against them but for a 16 year old to be anything but a liability means they’re a serious talent.
 
E

Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 5, 2020
  • #30
Skybluefaz said:
I wouldn't say he was really poor. You could clearly see his potential without him dominating the game.
Click to expand...

I wouldn’t say he played poorly, I would say MCallum had a fantastic game and got the better of him.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 5, 2020
  • #31
Liquid Gold said:
Mowbray trying to sign Championship players and ending up with Dre Wright,
Click to expand...

I forgot about Dre

:wtf:
 
Reactions: Nonleagueherewecome

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 5, 2020
  • #32
ccfcway said:
I forgot about Dre

:wtf:
Click to expand...
My favourite Dre tune actually comes from his spell in obscurity between NWA and Eminem, when people did in a very real sense forget about Dre. If I'm honest, I wouldn't have known about it either had it not soundtracked a bloody awesome American Dad scene just perfectly:




Oh, Dre Wright? Nah he was just crap.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Share:
Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Coventry City General Chat
  • Default Style
  • Contact us
  • Terms and rules
  • Privacy policy
  • Help
  • Home
Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2021 XenForo Ltd.
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Home
  • Forums
    • New posts
    • Search forums
  • What's new
    • New posts
    • Latest activity
  • Members
    • Current visitors
  • Donate to the Season Ticket Fund
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?