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  • Start date Nov 25, 2013
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Grendel

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  • Nov 25, 2013
  • #36
Jack Griffin said:
Sorry to be obvious, but buildings & land usually is pretty immobile.. nevertheless they're worth having as assets..
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Indeed and the evidence is that pubic owned assets tend to perform poorly compared to those in the private sector.
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Nov 25, 2013
  • #37
The bastards are moving to Northampton!
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Nov 25, 2013
  • #38
Grendel said:
Indeed and the evidence is that pubic owned assets tend to perform poorly compared to those in the private sector.
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I agree, and yet Sisu's incompetence has created a unique situation where their privately owned sports business has performed worse than a publically owned arena.

Quite an achievement.
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Nov 25, 2013
  • #39
Grendel said:
Indeed and the evidence is that pubic owned assets tend to perform poorly compared to those in the private sector.
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You would just love it if Shitzu/Avro/ whoever got their hands on the Ricoh would you not? BUT have you thought about the future of the Ricoh under their ownership?????
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 25, 2013
  • #40
Grendel said:
Indeed and the evidence is that pubic owned assets tend to perform poorly compared to those in the private sector.
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[Citation Needed]
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 25, 2013
  • #41
bigfatronssba said:
I agree, and yet Sisu's incompetence has created a unique situation where their privately owned sports business has performed worse than a publically owned arena.

Quite an achievement.
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that takes a special kind of management, hence the huge management fee's the club pays it's owners.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Nov 25, 2013
  • #42
skybluetony176 said:
that takes a special kind of management, hence the huge management fee's the club pays it's owners.
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I think they are worth every penny of that circa. -£60m
 

James Smith

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  • Nov 25, 2013
  • #43
bigfatronssba said:
I agree, and yet Sisu's incompetence has created a unique situation where their privately owned sports business has performed worse than a publically owned arena.

Quite an achievement.
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Well yeah but then what's new with Sisu? Strangely East Coast Trains has performed better under state ownership than private.
http://www.mediacentre.eastcoast.co...LISHES-FINANCIAL-RESULTS-FOR-2012-13-3e5.aspx
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/apr/18/east-coast-rail-line-taxpayer-subsidy
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 25, 2013
  • #44
James Smith said:
Well yeah but then what's new with Sisu? Strangely East Coast Trains has performed better under state ownership than private.
http://www.mediacentre.eastcoast.co...LISHES-FINANCIAL-RESULTS-FOR-2012-13-3e5.aspx
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/apr/18/east-coast-rail-line-taxpayer-subsidy
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There is no state aid here? Even with rolling stock and line maintenance?
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 25, 2013
  • #45
Tonylinc said:
You would just love it if Shitzu/Avro/ whoever got their hands on the Ricoh would you not? BUT have you thought about the future of the Ricoh under their ownership?????
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Why would anyone think of an ugly concrete lump in Foleshill? What an odd thing to say.
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Nov 25, 2013
  • #46
That "ugly concrete lump", is the Ricoh and Foleshill is in Coventry. You really are a pratt of the highest order!
 

James Smith

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  • Nov 25, 2013
  • #47
Grendel said:
There is no state aid here? Even with rolling stock and line maintenance
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Never said that there was no state aid, but almost every Train Operating Company receives a subsidy and East Coast is no exception. East Coast just requires less than the others since going back into public ownership.

guardian said:
The state-run East Coast rail service requires less public subsidy than any of the 15 privately run rail franchises in Britain, according to a report from the rail regulator.

The report comes after the coalition government pledged to push the London to Edinburgh line back into private hands before the next election, with a new operator taking over by February 2015.

The route has been under the control of the Department for Transport since November 2009 after the transport company National Express pulled out.

While about half of all train operating companies paid premiums to the government last year, the report shows that passengers on every franchise were in effect subsidised when money spent on infrastructure was included. However, the net subsidy for East Coast was 1% of the line's income, compared with an average of 32%.
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italiahorse

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  • Nov 25, 2013
  • #48
Grendel said:
Why would anyone think of an ugly concrete lump in Foleshill? What an odd thing to say.
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Have you ever been? It is a fantastic complex. What a strange thing to say.
 
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