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He was poor but only on the same level as others.
I've always had my reservations about 'utility' players who say they can play in multiple positions. Surely it's better to concentrate on one and master that before trying to fit in anywhere?
personally I don't think he was the worst player but he didn't do much to set the world alight. I thought at times he was a bit lost perhaps, and maybe midfield isn't the position for him? If Robins persists with considering him as a more of a WB then perhaps he needs to revert to that role?
I've always had my reservations about 'utility' players who say they can play in multiple positions. Surely it's better to concentrate on one and master that before trying to fit in anywhere?
personally I don't think he was the worst player but he didn't do much to set the world alight. I thought at times he was a bit lost perhaps, and maybe midfield isn't the position for him? If Robins persists with considering him as a more of a WB then perhaps he needs to revert to that role?
fatso
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But he was piss poor as a RWB on Sunday!
I don't want to wright the lad off after 2 games of the season, but it's difficult to see where he's going to fit in.
He might get a place on the bench due to being flexible, but being crap in numerous positions isn't going to make you a career.
Dominic H
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Feel sorry for the kid, hung out to dry on Sunday against Sunderland in a position he’s only played in against poor sides, then gets played in a young 11 against Bristol city’s first team. Admittedly he was poor in both games but his confidence is shot 1 game into the season
To be fair I don't think he's a utility player and I don't think it's his choice to play RWB.
He's obviously a central midfielder and got chucked in at RWB when we were desperate, and just happened to do well there.
With Burroughs seemingly having jumped up the pecking order recently I don't think we'll see too much of Eccles at RWB going forwards (unless Dabo gets injured!)
Skyblueweeman
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Dominic H
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Surely you’ve not just stated something everyone already knows, obviously he’s not a RWB
Robins has done the same with all upcoming academy midfielders
Shipley come through as a CM and got put LWB
Bayliss come through as a CM and got put RWB
Howley plays number 10 for Under 23’s or 18’s and has Been playing CB
We all want him to do well and I think he will become established but he’s been around the first team for 4 seasons now and must make it happen this season.
He will, just needs to make it happen.
The other post said Eccles is a utility player, I was saying no he's not he's a CM.
Bayliss never played RWB. We didn't even play wing backs when he was here!
Shipley played what, 2 games at LWB?
Howley has played 10 minutes at CB.
Liquid Gold
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I'm really just being pendantic here but Shipley and Bayliss played LM and RM respectively.
We didn't play with wingbacks until after Bayliss had left.
Irish Sky Blue
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He played excellently at Southampton as a wing back. I don’t think that they are a poor side. He just needs to be given a chance to prove himself and not be written off after a couple of poor games.
alexccfc99
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It was an all round crap performance - no one should be being singled out in particular
better days
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Viveash really rates this lad and thinks he could have a great career
But his confidence is shot
Look how he took to social media to apologise for his earlier below par performance
He really needs to get his head down and stop reading social media
But his confidence is shot
Look how he took to social media to apologise for his earlier below par performance
He really needs to get his head down and stop reading social media
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Dominic H
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Think ur missing my point, where they played is irrelevant, my point is that robins makes young lads coming through the academy play in different positions, almost learn a new position in the first team the question is why?
And if we are splitting hairs about positions then howley actually come on in the 78th minute on Wednesday with +6 minutes added on, so I mean I’ve seen him play CB more then 10 mins, dunno about you
Dominic H
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I think he’s got a lot of potential and when I watched him in CM against Walsall he was phenomenal but as a young kid coming through you need that arrogance and confidence and you can tell at the minute he’s lacking in that Department
bawtryneal
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I dídnt go to the Bristol game but some of the comments written on here by people who should know better were scandalous
He is a young player learning his trade who is obviously low on confidence
Slagging off every bad pass etc will not help anybody other than created a drama on here
Make comments for sure but get some perspective.
He is a young player learning his trade who is obviously low on confidence
Slagging off every bad pass etc will not help anybody other than created a drama on here
Make comments for sure but get some perspective.
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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This. Eccles is a good player. It was obvious that as the Sunderland game wore on his confidence was dropping. This happens to young players.
We should have took him off at half time, with Dabo on the bench - Eccles needs to be taken out of the firing line, go back to performing for the U23s and rebuild his confidence.
there’s a good player in there
Balli001
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Sheaf had a whole season of it. Difference being Eccles is 'one or our own'
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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I had no problem with Sheaf. I generally found he was a good player and said many times on here. His problem was for me bad luck as he made no more mistakes than others, just when he did make a mistake it almost always led to a goal.
eccles is a confidence issue, maybe not helped by his badly timed injuries
Dominic H
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what did sheaf have a whole season of exactly?
slowpoke
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He wasn’t the most popular was he.
Balli001
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Abuse everytime he breathed.
Dominic H
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yeah I agree with that sheaf got a lot of unfair stick over the seasons, I’ve rated him since he come on loan in the first season
David O'Day
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is the boo boy this year? we have some plums as fans
the lad who said bayliss had played rwb, wow
the lad who said bayliss had played rwb, wow
Dominic H
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Not much difference between RM and RWB is there let’s be honest David
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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He's had a couple of bad games to start the season (one out of position) but I don't think that's writing him off for saying so. When he was performing well last season and people were saying he would have a great future, were they over-hyping him.
I think he's got enough talent to make it, but if his confidence has taken such a hammering after a couple of bad games I think his biggest challenge is going to be on the mental side of things and believing in himself. Even the best go through periods of bad form.
I think he's got enough talent to make it, but if his confidence has taken such a hammering after a couple of bad games I think his biggest challenge is going to be on the mental side of things and believing in himself. Even the best go through periods of bad form.
NorthernWisdom
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He was awful first game, couldn't say v Burton but was apparently awful again... along with the rest of the team. Last season he had a cracking game at the end v... Stoke(?) before he got injured, and looked good in his other cameos.
So two poor games is not what anybody wants, but happens to them all at some point.
So two poor games is not what anybody wants, but happens to them all at some point.
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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I mean Godden missed an absolute sitter first game and was pretty anonymous. The Sunderland game wasn’t a good indicator for most of the players
NorthernWisdom
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Eccles was especially bad in that game tbf, at least in my eyes, and I said so at the time. I also made sure I mentioned his previous good games mind you, as a reason not to write him off!
(And yeah, Godden was poor v Sunderland, no argument over that in isolation).
Nothing wrong in saying a player's had a bad game, am sure the players know when they have themselves! That's very different from writing them off entirely on little evidence, however.
