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  • Start date Jul 16, 2020
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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Aug 18, 2020
  • #211
Didn’t we turn Kevin keegan down for being too small many years ago? Or was that just a playground urban myth?!
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2020
  • #212
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
Didn’t we turn Kevin keegan down for being too small many years ago? Or was that just a playground urban myth?!
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Swear I remember a rumour of us turning Ryan Giggs down as well.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Aug 18, 2020
  • #213
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Is that from the book Staying Up? The club would have had hundreds of players on their database and I’m always wary chairman/scouts who claim they could have had a top player for cheap after they’ve made it to make it look like they know what they’re doing.

Steve Parish said Palace could have had Alphonso Davies and Ranson said we could have signed Henderson and Carroll....
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More recently, Tommy Widdrington also claimed we were really close to bringing in Wan-Bissaka on a free a few years ago. How realistic that was is debatable though as a former Palace player who had a role behind the scenes at the club said it was more likely he was going to be sent out on loan.

I agree though, most of the time former managers/chairmen/scouts definitely claim they were close to bagging a superstar before they became a top player to demonstrate how knowledgable they are.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Aug 18, 2020
  • #214
jordan210 said:
Yeah something like that ! I got told by a very senior member of the management about him.
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We were definitely linked think he was more wide man/left winger in those days not sure if we plumped for Steve Froggatt instead.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2020
  • #215
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Is that from the book Staying Up? The club would have had hundreds of players on their database and I’m always wary chairman/scouts who claim they could have had a top player for cheap after they’ve made it to make it look like they know what they’re doing.

Steve Parish said Palace could have had Alphonso Davies and Ranson said we could have signed Henderson and Carroll....
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It wasn't just in a database. I heard we were actually offered him. Probably an agent but it wasn't just scouting, it was actually "do you want to sign him?"
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2020
  • #216
Apologies for the source, but the keegan thing was real, apparently. And Pirlo..

Coventry City players that never were...

Chris Bickley looks at some of the players who slipped the Sky Blues net
www.coventrytelegraph.net
 
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Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2020
  • #217
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It wasn't just in a database. I heard we were actually offered him. Probably an agent but it wasn't just scouting, it was actually "do you want to sign him?"
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Just think the heights Henry could have achieved if had plumped for us instead of Arsenal.
 
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baldy

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  • Aug 18, 2020
  • #218
Magwitch said:
Just think the heights Henry could have achieved if had plumped for us instead of Arsenal.
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Especially in central midfield alongside Pirlo....
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 18, 2020
  • #219
baldy said:
Especially in central midfield alongside Pirlo....
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Don't you mean Dabo
 
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David O'Day

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  • Aug 19, 2020
  • #220
shmmeee said:
Swear I remember a rumour of us turning Ryan Giggs down as well.
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Can see that one being true. He was famously a schoolboy at Man City until Ferguson knocked on his mums door
 

SleepyGinger

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  • Aug 19, 2020
  • #221
jordan210 said:
fun fact about when we signed Mo we had the chance to purchase thierry henry but we dint rate him or dint want another forward. (Can’t remember the exact wording m)
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The one I remember hearing is Mo Konjic highly recommending a 14 year old Bosnian called Edin Dzeko to the club when he was here.
 

baldy

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  • Aug 19, 2020
  • #222
I’m still waiting for Houllier to be announced as manager thanks to Jo Dhinsar
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Aug 19, 2020
  • #223
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Story I heard was a bit earlier and we were offered him and decided not to pursue it - he was considered more a winger at that point. Also we had Dublin, Huckerby and Whelan so we felt well stocked in the forward department. Fee was about £4m I believe. Think it would've been around 1997.
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I’ve heard that story, we didn’t want to risk the money on him.

like Ruud who was a CM at the time. We didn’t rate him there
 
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skysblue

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  • Aug 19, 2020
  • #224
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
Didn’t we turn Kevin keegan down for being too small many years ago? Or was that just a playground urban myth?!
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Yes true & Steve Highway
 
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #225
skysblue said:
Yes true & Steve Highway
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And Chris Waddle
 
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Rugby Sky Blue

Active Member
  • Jan 7, 2021
  • #226
Very good player but there is no chance that he is coming to Cov, he is also being linked with a move to Seria A and Sporting Lisbon.
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jan 7, 2021
  • #227
Rugby Sky Blue said:
Very good player but there is no chance that he is coming to Cov.
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The last comment was back in August, why have you brought this one back up again?


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Rugby Sky Blue

Active Member
  • Jan 7, 2021
  • #228
Skybluedownunder said:
The last comment was back in August, why have you brought this one back up again?


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Someone mentioned it to me earlier and thought we may still be interested didn't look at the last comment date.
 

Greggs

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 7, 2021
  • #229
Rugby Sky Blue said:
Very good player but there is no chance that he is coming to Cov, he is also being linked with a move to Seria A and Sporting Lisbon.
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Thanks for the update, but he aint as good as Osti x
 

Greggs

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  • Jan 7, 2021
  • #230
Skybluedownunder said:
The last comment was back in August, why have you brought this one back up again?


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sticky keyboard is my guessssss
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 7, 2021
  • #231
Greggs said:
Thanks for the update, but he aint as good as Osti x
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He would replace hyam at LCB as he’s left footed
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 7, 2021
  • #232
cc84cov said:
He would replace hyam at LCB as he’s left footed
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So would Nathan Ake, but he isn't joining us either.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Jan 7, 2021
  • #233
Got all excited when this thread was resurrected. Ah well.
 
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cov donkey kick

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #234
This would be mad!!
 

Gibbo

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #235
On the subject of 'might have beens' .

In 1966, we heard JH was off to Bury to sign someone, and we all hoped / assumed that, it was Colin Bell (RIP recently). Instead, in search of goals Hill came back with Burnley reject and then playing for Bury, Ray Pointer. Pointer ran around like a headless chicken for the rest of the season and was then got rid of. Man City were top of the 2nd Division at the time.

And on the subject of mistakes, JH made plenty of blunders, as I'm sure Robins has (Vincenti, Kastaneer, that guy from Hull on loan two seasons ago, O'Brien...), which makes me slightly dispair when people declare their absolute 'trust' in Robins. Everybody makes mistakes - most on here think Sheaf and even Giles are mistakes. Fortunately for us, Robins mark 2 has made very few of them.
 
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procdoc

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #236
Gibbo said:
On the subject of 'might have beens' .

In 1966, we heard JH was off to Bury to sign someone, and we all hoped / assumed that, it was Colin Bell (RIP recently). Instead, in search of goals Hill came back with Burnley reject and then playing for Bury, Ray Pointer. Pointer ran around like a headless chicken for the rest of the season and was then got rid of. Man City were top of the 2nd Division at the time.

And on the subject of mistakes, JH made plenty of blunders, as I'm sure Robins has (Vincenti, Kastaneer, that guy from Hull on loan two seasons ago, O'Brien...), which makes me slightly dispair when people declare their absolute 'trust' in Robins. Everybody makes mistakes - most on here think Sheaf and even Giles are mistakes. Fortunately for us, Robins mark 2 has made very few of them.
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Ferguson signed Bebe, Djemba-Djemba, Kleberson etc. Even the greatest of all time get it wrong now and again
 
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SleepyGinger

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #237
With some of the dross we have had here in the years before robins it shows how well he and the recruitment team have done. A lot more hits than misses.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #238
procdoc said:
Ferguson signed Bebe, Djemba-Djemba, Kleberson etc. Even the greatest of all time get it wrong now and again
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Exactly. People who single out a couple of individuals as proof of poor recruitment are talking out their arse.
 
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ms639

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #239
Gibbo said:
On the subject of 'might have beens' .

In 1966, we heard JH was off to Bury to sign someone, and we all hoped / assumed that, it was Colin Bell (RIP recently). Instead, in search of goals Hill came back with Burnley reject and then playing for Bury, Ray Pointer. Pointer ran around like a headless chicken for the rest of the season and was then got rid of. Man City were top of the 2nd Division at the time.

And on the subject of mistakes, JH made plenty of blunders, as I'm sure Robins has (Vincenti, Kastaneer, that guy from Hull on loan two seasons ago, O'Brien...), which makes me slightly dispair when people declare their absolute 'trust' in Robins. Everybody makes mistakes - most on here think Sheaf and even Giles are mistakes. Fortunately for us, Robins mark 2 has made very few of them.
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If you think sheaf is a bad signing, you know nothing about football
 
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procdoc

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #240
mark82 said:
Exactly. People who single out a couple of individuals as proof of poor recruitment are talking out their arse.
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Robins has signed more hits than misses. Kelly, McNulty, Hyam, Rose, Fadz, Doyle, Sterling, Dabo, McCallum, Godden, Biamou, Tom Davies, Grimmer, Hamer, Walsh, O’Hare, Osti, Marosi, Westbrooke all contributed heavily to our success since Robins come back to us.
Of course there’s been the odd dud such as Vincente, Ogogo, Kasta, Junior Brown but overall his record of signing players that improved us is excellent
 
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SBAndy

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #241
procdoc said:
Robins has signed more hits than misses. Kelly, McNulty, Hyam, Rose, Fadz, Doyle, Sterling, Dabo, McCallum, Godden, Biamou, Tom Davies, Grimmer, Hamer, Walsh, O’Hare, Osti, Marosi, Westbrooke all contributed heavily to our success since Robins come back to us.
Of course there’s been the odd dud such as Vincente, Ogogo, Kasta, Junior Brown but overall his record of signing players that improved us is excellent
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I’ve just gone through every transfer that’s been made during his second spell (not a lot on today!) and I reckon he’s running at about 80% success rate (quantifying success as the signing fulfilling the role/expectation required, so will maybe be more heavily weighted in favour). Might start a separate thread on it actually.
 

capel & collindridge

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #242
Gibbo said:
On the subject of 'might have beens' .

In 1966, we heard JH was off to Bury to sign someone, and we all hoped / assumed that, it was Colin Bell (RIP recently). Instead, in search of goals Hill came back with Burnley reject and then playing for Bury, Ray Pointer. Pointer ran around like a headless chicken for the rest of the season and was then got rid of. Man City were top of the 2nd Division at the time.

And on the subject of mistakes, JH made plenty of blunders, as I'm sure Robins has (Vincenti, Kastaneer, that guy from Hull on loan two seasons ago, O'Brien...), which makes me slightly dispair when people declare their absolute 'trust' in Robins. Everybody makes mistakes - most on here think Sheaf and even Giles are mistakes. Fortunately for us, Robins mark 2 has made very few of them.
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That particular 'headless chicken' scored 13 goals in 26 appearances. Bly and Hudson were hard acts to follow,
 
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Hobo

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #243
Gibbo said:
On the subject of 'might have beens' .

In 1966, we heard JH was off to Bury to sign someone, and we all hoped / assumed that, it was Colin Bell (RIP recently). Instead, in search of goals Hill came back with Burnley reject and then playing for Bury, Ray Pointer. Pointer ran around like a headless chicken for the rest of the season and was then got rid of. Man City were top of the 2nd Division at the time.

And on the subject of mistakes, JH made plenty of blunders, as I'm sure Robins has (Vincenti, Kastaneer, that guy from Hull on loan two seasons ago, O'Brien...), which makes me slightly dispair when people declare their absolute 'trust' in Robins. Everybody makes mistakes - most on here think Sheaf and even Giles are mistakes. Fortunately for us, Robins mark 2 has made very few of them.
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There are all sorts of reasons why players dont work out for teams. A lot of the reasons are beyond a managers control. No manager or team has a complete success rate.

Kastaneer wasnt bought for the Championship and the fact we didnt eventually need him to get here doesn't mean he was a complete fail or wrong to buy him. The same can be said of Biamou and Bakayoko. Yes we need better quality but that takes time. For the time being they are our players and we have to get as much out of them as we can. We know they are not going to score 15 goals a seaon or even 15 beyween them.
 
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procdoc

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  • Jan 8, 2021
  • #244
SBAndy said:
I’ve just gone through every transfer that’s been made during his second spell (not a lot on today!) and I reckon he’s running at about 80% success rate (quantifying success as the signing fulfilling the role/expectation required, so will maybe be more heavily weighted in favour). Might start a separate thread on it actually.
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I’d argue that Chaplin was also a successful signing seems as we made a profit on him
 
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Domo

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #245
contract expires next month, worth getting on a free?
 
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