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Joe Elliott to be the front man (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Mar 24, 2013
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logjoe

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #36
italiahorse said:
Joe Elliot has done nothing more than try to help the club. The problem is with anyone trying to help this club is that you always get some ill informed bigot slamming down peoples efforts.
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Oh yeah here we go one of his mates:jerkit:
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #37
logjoe said:
Oh yeah here we go one of his mates:jerkit:
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It must be Roy Palin, Joe is his best customer.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #38
Just remind people, Hoffman and Elliott were part of the SISU regime...
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #39
lordsummerisle said:
So why should he know any better this time around?
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Maybe he'll have learned from experience, maybe he won't know any better.

To me the point is that JE is a fan of the club, who having made a reasonable success of his business was in a position to support the club with his money (sponsorship of the youth team and on one occasion the first team) and his time.

He was given the courtesy title of associate director in the Richardson years, which seems to lead some posters here to believe that he was responsible for the poor decisions that were made at that time.

When I was a member of the Premier Club at Highfield Road, I saw JE most weeks greeting guests, showing people round etc etc. Personally in his position, I'd have been in my own box sipping a glass of vintage champagne - but he chose to give up his time, maybe to help the club, maybe to feel involved, who knows - but I think it is grossly unfair to question or deride his support.
 
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logjoe

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #40
So after the so called take over what do you lot think is really going to happen JE and all his yes men mates that are with him at the away games will end up in positions in the club. Then when we have a bad spell of form on the pitch out will come the knives and in will come another manager upsetting what is already a good team not perfect but moving in the right direction started by these owners. Waggot has selected in my opinion two good managers and has things moving correctly lets not have this ruined or again we will be moaning and bleating again. It is pissing me off that all we seem to do is talk about everything other than the games.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #41
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Just remind people, Hoffman and Elliott were part of the SISU regime...
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That's true, both as I recall non-exec directors.

I also seem to recall that Hoffman resigned when he disagreed with SISU's change of policy.

So the point you were making was?
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #42
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
That's true, both as I recall non-exec directors.

I also seem to recall that Hoffman resigned when he disagreed with SISU's change of policy.

So the point you were making was?
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Elliot got kicked out for plotting after their change of policy aswell
 
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warwickcccfc

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #43
logjoe said:
So after the so called take over what do you lot think is really going to happen JE and all his yes men mates that are with him at the away games will end up in positions in the club. Then when we have a bad spell of form on the pitch out will come the knives and in will come another manager upsetting what is already a good team not perfect but moving in the right direction started by these owners. Waggot has selected in my opinion two good managers and has things moving correctly lets not have this ruined or again we will be moaning and bleating again. It is pissing me off that all we seem to do is talk about everything other than the games.
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Good point, who are all those fat 50/60 something blokes in suit, tie and lon coats sat with the fans at some away games?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #44
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
That's true, both as I recall non-exec directors.

I also seem to recall that Hoffman resigned when he disagreed with SISU's change of policy.

So the point you were making was?
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That it's blind hypocrisy if someone supports these 2 people that were part of the SISU machine.

Hoffman resigned at CT4's loan to Liverpool, hardly a damning rejection of SISU monetary policy.
 
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Taga

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #45
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
Maybe he'll have learned from experience, maybe he won't know any better.

To me the point is that JE is a fan of the club, who having made a reasonable success of his business was in a position to support the club with his money (sponsorship of the youth team and on one occasion the first team) and his time.

He was given the courtesy title of associate director in the Richardson years, which seems to lead some posters here to believe that he was responsible for the poor decisions that were made at that time.

When I was a member of the Premier Club at Highfield Road, I saw JE most weeks greeting guests, showing people round etc etc. Personally in his position, I'd have been in my own box sipping a glass of vintage champagne - but he chose to give up his time, maybe to help the club, maybe to feel involved, who knows - but I think it is grossly unfair to question or deride his support.
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Tommy, I couldn't agree more. I too was lucky enough to spend 15+ years in the VP's and it was a great social environment, for which Joe took a prominent role. The one thing that always came across in any discussion with Joe was his love of the club. It is a shame (and a sign of the times) that a successful local businessman no longer has the financial clout needed to support and grow a professional football club.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #46
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
That it's blind hypocrisy if someone supports these 2 people that were part of the SISU machine.

Hoffman resigned at CT4's loan to Liverpool, hardly a damning rejection of SISU monetary policy.
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I think that if you're going to make such statements you really need to support them with some logical argument.

As I stated earlier, they were both on the Board in the earlier part of SISU's ownership. As also stated earlier, they were NEDs.

Can you explain to me what you would have had them done in that role, that they obviously failed to do, leaving them open to your vitriol?
 
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Bluegloucester

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #47
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
That it's blind hypocrisy if someone supports these 2 people that were part of the SISU machine.

Hoffman resigned at CT4's loan to Liverpool, hardly a damning rejection of SISU monetary policy.
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Gary Hoffman resigned because he disagreed with the owner's policy changes. It was not one individual event.
 
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Howsoonisnow

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #48
logjoe said:
Joe Elliot a complete leach another ray ranson will put nothing in and take loads out will wait for the first oppotunity to sack the manager and ruin everything that is going on at the moment people like him get on my nerves if he was that interested open his wallet. Bloody Leach.
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Doubt he will open his wallet. Apparently he now has to pay for his coach travel to away games after fans complained earlier this season that he had been travelling for free. Thought he had a big flashy house and a flashy car??
 

skybluegnome

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #49
lordsummerisle said:
Despite the fact that the story is apprently bollocks, are you insane?

Joe Elliott and Hoffman to guide the club through difficult times and onwards and upwards?

It's almost like Joe Elliott has never had any connection with the last 15 years or so of crap that has led us to this mess.
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Hear, hear....at last someone else not looking at that guy through rose tinted glasses...
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #50
Howsoonisnow said:
Doubt he will open his wallet. Apparently he now has to pay for his coach travel to away games after fans complained earlier this season that he had been travelling for free. Thought he had a big flashy house and a flashy car??
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Like he "didn't open his wallet" when he sponsored the youth team, like he didn't open his wallet the year we couldn't get a sponsor for the first team, so he stepped in and did it.

Was that the type of not opening his wallet you had in mind?
 
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Howsoonisnow

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #51
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
Like he "didn't open his wallet" when he sponsored the youth team, like he didn't open his wallet the year we couldn't get a sponsor for the first team, so he stepped in and did it.

Was that the type of not opening his wallet you had in mind?
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And how many years ago did he last sponsor the youth team or the first team? By my calculations, 25 years ago?

Nobody is criticising his past sponsorships, for which he deserves a pat on the back.

But why cadge a free lift to away games? Supporters on the coaches complained because he has more money than them. Do you think he should have had a free seat to away games while other supporters were digging deep into their pockets?
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #52
Howsoonisnow said:
And how many years ago did he last sponsor the youth team or the first team? By my calculations, 25 years ago?

Nobody is criticising his past sponsorships, for which he deserves a pat on the back.

But why cadge a free lift to away games? Supporters on the coaches complained because he has more money than them. Do you think he should have had a free seat to away games while other supporters were digging deep into their pockets?
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To be honest, I have no idea if that's true or not.

If it is true, then I'd say it's a bit shabby.

I'd also say it should be viewed in context against the past financial support and the (I assume) free hours that he's put into the club over the years.
 
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Howsoonisnow

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #53
Fair comment Tommy but a lot of supporters were unhappy when they found out about it.
 
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Steve.B50

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #54
JE is a decent chap and one thing for sure he is a City fan.
He would do his best for the goodness of the club.
 
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warwickcccfc

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #55
Steve.B50 said:
JE is a decent chap and one thing for sure he is a City fan.
He would do his best for the goodness of the club.
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Ian from Shipston off the radio is a decent chap and a City fan but would you have him in charge?!
 

deanocity3

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #56
Joe Elliott to be front man
he has been for over 30 years.
with Def Leppard
 
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logjoe

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #57
Howsoonisnow said:
And how many years ago did he last sponsor the youth team or the first team? By my calculations, 25 years ago?

Nobody is criticising his past sponsorships, for which he deserves a pat on the back.

But why cadge a free lift to away games? Supporters on the coaches complained because he has more money than them. Do you think he should have had a free seat to away games while other supporters were digging deep into their pockets?
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Yep and his little following they are complete mugs they think we dont know. IDIOTS one of the reasons i detest the bloke. Oh and dont forget coaches wont go until he turns up!!:jerkit:
 
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japandy

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #58
italiahorse said:
Joe Elliot has done nothing more than try to help the club. The problem is with anyone trying to help this club is that you always get some ill informed bigot slamming down peoples efforts.
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TOTALLY agree Italiahorse.

Joe, because he has gained success through 'blue collar' means has become the butt of many jokes, including mine, when he has stood for our club through thick and thin.

Unfortunately, the majority of city fans who go on GMK and a few on here think sacasm and irony are humourous when we all know they are the lowest form of wit.

JE has done more for our club, as a supporter, other than Kev Monks, and had put so much money himself into the club.

GOD BLESS JE
 

deanocity3

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #59
japandy said:
TOTALLY agree Italiahorse.

Joe, because he has gained success through 'blue collar' means has become the butt of many jokes, including mine, when he has stood for our club through thick and thin.

Unfortunately, the majority of city fans who go on GMK and a few on here think sacasm and irony are humourous when we all know they are the lowest form of wit.

JE has done more for our club, as a supporter, other than Kev Monks, and had put so much money himself into the club.

GOD BLESS JE
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i'm with you there
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #60
japandy said:
TOTALLY agree Italiahorse.

Joe, because he has gained success through 'blue collar' means has become the butt of many jokes, including mine, when he has stood for our club through thick and thin.

Unfortunately, the majority of city fans who go on GMK and a few on here think sacasm and irony are humourous when we all know they are the lowest form of wit.

JE has done more for our club, as a supporter, other than Kev Monks, and had put so much money himself into the club.

GOD BLESS JE
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Well, God only knows what the club would be like if Elliott wasn't trying his best.

At least others who have screwed up the club had some financial advantage to themselves out of it, Richardson, Robinson, McGinnitty, Ranson, etc., but Elliott does it for nothing!
 

WillieStanley

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #61
japandy said:
TOTALLY agree Italiahorse.

Joe, because he has gained success through 'blue collar' means has become the butt of many jokes, including mine, when he has stood for our club through thick and thin.

Unfortunately, the majority of city fans who go on GMK and a few on here think sacasm and irony are humourous when we all know they are the lowest form of wit.

JE has done more for our club, as a supporter, other than Kev Monks, and had put so much money himself into the club.

GOD BLESS JE
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Sarcasm and irony might be considered the lowest form of wit but it is also considered the highest form of intelligence.
 

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #62
japandy said:
TOTALLY agree Italiahorse.

Unfortunately, the majority of city fans who go on GMK and a few on here think sacasm and irony are humourous ...
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But they are humourous.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #63
I can't see anyone in their right mind putting themselves up to help CCFC for love. Sorry Bobby.
No matter how they do, you will always get some keyboard jockey sounding off, picking up on every little rumour and ripping them apart.
Meanwhile they sit back and offer nothing.
 
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logjoe

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #64
Howsoonisnow said:
Doubt he will open his wallet. Apparently he now has to pay for his coach travel to away games after fans complained earlier this season that he had been travelling for free. Thought he had a big flashy house and a flashy car??
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Yep and his big flashy house is on the route of the HS2. :claping hands:
 

italiahorse

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #65
logjoe said:
Yep and his big flashy house is on the route of the HS2. :claping hands:
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What's the problem with being successful. Just because I drive round in a Porsche and fly up from London for every match doesn't mean I'm an idiot.
 

rob9872

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #66
Other than kev monks? Id wager Joe has done a little more!
 

Black6Osprey

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #67
This Joe Elliott front man title is putting me off as I keep thinking about him in tight leather trousers prancing about like Freddie Mercury.
 
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Florence1898

New Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #68
lordsummerisle said:
Despite the fact that the story is apprently bollocks, are you insane?

Joe Elliott and Hoffman to guide the club through difficult times and onwards and upwards?

It's almost like Joe Elliott has never had any connection with the last 15 years or so of crap that has led us to this mess.
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From my recollection Hoffman and Elliott were on the Board for almost 4 of the 6 years under the current SISU reign, god help us if they get involved again. Joe has a big heart but his agenda is to be questioned, Gary struggles to add up.
 

italiahorse

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  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #69
Florence1898 said:
From my recollection Hoffman and Elliott were on the Board for almost 4 of the 6 years under the current SISU reign, god help us if they get involved again. Joe has a big heart but his agenda is to be questioned, Gary struggles to add up.
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He is a high profile Cov fan and needs to be in the mix.
 
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SkyBlueBlood

Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #70
oldskyblue58 said:
JE has always seemed to be a nice guy when i have met him, certainly wants whats best for the club, i can not fault that....... but chairman? sorry not for me - but thats just a personal opinion and nothing against him
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I don't have a problem with him as chairman as it would be merely a PR role as a figurehead. The decisions would come from the owner and the work would get done by an MD / Chief Executive.
 
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