Joe Edwards, Chris Jones and the coaching staff (9 Viewers)

EalingSB · 2026-04-21T12:21:18+0100

The individual player songs at the end of the game on Friday were brilliant (although I did feel a bit for Esse as the only player on the pitch not to have a song sung in his honour).

It would be great to see the coaching staff recognised on Sunday. Hopefully Frank brings Joe Edwards, Chris Jones and Aled Williams to the fore so they can get the appreciation they deserve from the fans.

Watching City Unseen, you really sense how much it all means to everyone and how strong the togetherness is. Sunday should be something special for all of us.

Enjoy tonight. I’ll be cheering on from home before heading over this weekend.

PUSB

Ooh Ah · 2026-04-21T12:40:08+0100

EalingSB said:
The individual player songs at the end of the game on Friday were brilliant (although I did feel a bit for Esse as the only player on the pitch not to have a song sung in his honour).

It would be great to see the coaching staff recognised on Sunday. Hopefully Frank brings Joe Edwards, Chris Jones and Aled Williams to the fore so they can get the appreciation they deserve from the fans.

Watching City Unseen, you really sense how much it all means to everyone and how strong the togetherness is. Sunday should be something special for all of us.

Enjoy tonight. I’ll be cheering on from home before heading over this weekend.

PUSB

Agree. I think the fundamental difference for CCFC this year, has been seeing each player improve, some a little, but others like JDS, Eccles, EMC, Torp, a good 5-10%. They should take huge credit for this.

With good transfers like Rushworth, Grimes and Onyeka, into a great set-up/culture started by Robins and taken further by Lampard .........

Robinshio · 2026-04-21T12:50:25+0100

Recruitment has been the biggest disappointment Rushworth and onyeka aside Woolf kkh esse brau Min Hyeok probably played 5 games between them

shmmeee · 2026-04-21T12:54:14+0100

There’s only one Aled Williams
One Aled Williams
He used to be shite
Now he’s got a considerably better class of goalkeeper to work with
Walking in a Williams wonderland

CovValleyBoy · 2026-04-21T12:55:49+0100

Robinshio said:
Recruitment has been the biggest disappointment Rushworth and onyeka aside Woolf kkh esse brau Min Hyeok probably played 5 games between them

What do you want my son ?
17 a-side

CovValleyBoy · 2026-04-21T12:57:52+0100

I would say Wolf , KKh & Esse have been solid squad additions. KKH happens to be cover for one of our best players.

Hobo · 2026-04-21T13:05:33+0100

Robinshio said:
Recruitment has been the biggest disappointment Rushworth and onyeka aside Woolf kkh esse brau Min Hyeok probably played 5 games between them

not counting Rushworth and Onyeka I make it 63 appearances between the others: 16, 20, 14, 10 & 3. Also Markelo 5. Obviously for most it is more minutes rather than games. But some of those have been crucial minutes. What I think is important is there has been no really expensive flops.

Potbellypig · 2026-04-21T13:08:19+0100

I noticed that Saddle's mate Aled wasn't there against Blackburn. Some game to miss.

Manchester_sky_blue · 2026-04-21T13:14:30+0100

Robinshio said:
Recruitment has been the biggest disappointment Rushworth and onyeka aside Woolf kkh esse brau Min Hyeok probably played 5 games between them

Come off it.

Woolf has been a touch disappointing but he equally hasn't had that much opportunity - I don't think anyone expected Lati to level up in the way he has.

MVE and JDS have been among our most consistent performers and Esse is competing with Tats for his place so was always going to struggle for minutes.

All of them with with exception of Brau have played a part.

chiefdave · 2026-04-21T13:16:56+0100

shmmeee said:
There’s only one Aled Williams
One Aled Williams
He used to be shite
Now he’s got a considerably better class of goalkeeper to work with
Walking in a Williams wonderland

Lets see what people think when Wilson is in goal for our first game in the Prem!

FergieTheFinisher · 2026-04-21T13:17:22+0100

CovValleyBoy said:
I would say Wolf , KKh & Esse have been solid squad additions. KKH happens to be cover for one of our best players.

And in. Fairness Tats had been on fire since Esse joined. I think given more minutes Esse would show his quality and mesh with our style more, but he was not pushing Tats out.

shmmeee · 2026-04-21T13:19:10+0100

Hobo said:
not counting Rushworth and Onyeka I make it 63 appearances between the others: 16, 20, 14, 10 & 3. Also Markelo 5. Obviously for most it is more minutes rather than games. But some of those have been crucial minutes. What I think is important is there has been no really expensive flops.

I think €5m for 44 minutes isn’t great tbh.

Matt Grimes' Beard · 2026-04-21T13:36:27+0100

shmmeee said:
I think €5m for 44 minutes isn’t great tbh.

I agree. If only he'd signed a contract past the end of the season that meant he could increase the number of minutes that he plays for us.

shmmeee · 2026-04-21T13:38:01+0100

Matt Grimes' Beard said:
I agree. If only he'd signed a contract past the end of the season that meant he could increase the number of minutes that he plays for us.

Good job we’re in a less competitive division next season with weaker players to increase his chances. Maybe Bassette and Brau will get some time too what do you think?

clint van damme · 2026-04-21T13:44:26+0100

shmmeee said:
I think €5m for 44 minutes isn’t great tbh.

He wasn't brought in to play this season so why does his lack of minutes matter?

rob9872 · 2026-04-21T14:07:03+0100

EalingSB said:
The individual player songs at the end of the game on Friday were brilliant (although I did feel a bit for Esse as the only player on the pitch not to have a song sung in his honour).

It would be great to see the coaching staff recognised on Sunday. Hopefully Frank brings Joe Edwards, Chris Jones and Aled Williams to the fore so they can get the appreciation they deserve from the fans.

Watching City Unseen, you really sense how much it all means to everyone and how strong the togetherness is. Sunday should be something special for all of us.

Enjoy tonight. I’ll be cheering on from home before heading over this weekend.

PUSB

Not only Esse, we didn't sing to Markelo, Wolfenden, KKH, Dovin and Yang that were there. Also, Raphael, Andrews, Bassette, Perry, Dausch out on loan.

shmmeee · 2026-04-21T14:07:21+0100

clint van damme said:
He wasn't brought in to play this season so why does his lack of minutes matter?

Which season was he brought in for then?

shmmeee · 2026-04-21T14:08:34+0100

Can’t wait until 2035 when Marcel Hilßner really comes into his own

Ccfcisparks · 2026-04-21T14:09:56+0100

shmmeee said:
Can’t wait until 2035 when Marcel Hilßner really comes into his own

Hilsnner has left mate

clint van damme · 2026-04-21T14:16:09+0100

shmmeee said:
Which season was he brought in for then?

Next season. Lampard has said this in an interview.
If he said he expects him to make an immediate impact and had only played a few minutes I could understand your concern but he didn't.

rob9872 · 2026-04-21T14:18:10+0100

Ccfcisparks said:
Hilsnner has left mate

Yeah, swap deal when we brought Julian Gray back in.

EalingSB · 2026-04-21T14:31:10+0100

rob9872 said:
Not only Esse, we didn't sing to Markelo, Wolfenden, KKH, Dovin and Yang that were there. Also, Raphael, Andrews, Bassette, Perry, Dausch out on loan.

Yep, which is why I said the only player on the pitch on Friday. KKH and Wolf were subs and didn't play.

Grendel · 2026-04-21T14:46:28+0100

shmmeee said:
Which season was he brought in for then?

Its happening again

NURSE NURSE SCREENS SCREENS!!!!

Hobo · 2026-04-21T15:25:42+0100

shmmeee said:
I think €5m for 44 minutes isn’t great tbh.

sometimes players need to be given time. Also don’t undervalue minutes off the bench. It is why top clubs are starting to have substitute coaches. Because substitutes have become a really valuable part of the game.

Their role is to debunk the idea that being a substitute is a secondary role. Acknowledge there are difficulties around joining a game and making an impact. Be involved around club statergies (one player get 60 mins another 30 mins). Help players understand what is expected of them when they come on. Pre planed substitutes. Tactical substitutes. Game management substitutes. The value of keeping squad members involved.

It is why a lot of clubs want to have more players on the bench. Not increase how many they can bring on, but increase the pool they can choose from during a match.

shmmeee · 2026-04-21T15:48:17+0100

Hobo said:
sometimes players need to be given time. Also don’t undervalue minutes off the bench. It is why top clubs are starting to have substitute coaches. Because substitutes have become a really valuable part of the game.

Their role is to debunk the idea that being a substitute is a secondary role. Acknowledge there are difficulties around joining a game and making an impact. Be involved around club statergies (one player get 60 mins another 30 mins). Help players understand what is expected of them when they come on. Pre planed substitutes. Tactical substitutes. Game management substitutes. The value of keeping squad members involved.

It is why a lot of clubs want to have more players on the bench. Not increase how many they can bring on, but increase the pool they can choose from during a match.

These are all really interesting theories but I think if someone has been there months and is clearly match fit and isn’t getting on the pitch especially when the others in their position are injured or regularly subbed off then Occam’s razor applies and they’re just not good enough rather than they’re some unique snowflake who needs time to bed in or whatever. The guy is 23 and cost more than EMC, Saka, Simms, etc. if he’s not playing now it’s highly unlikely he’s about to turn into a world beater. It’s not like it’s a position like defence where you’re scared to change it without good reason too. By far the most likely answer here as much as it makes people sad is that he’s just not as good as we thought he was.

SkyBluePower · 2026-04-21T15:52:22+0100

SkyBluePower said:
The fringe players mentioned were all brought in as squad depth. We were relatively lucky with injuries this season and our first team rarely let us down .
Would have been interesting if Milan had been injured for 6 weeks to see how KKH did for example . I’m sure he would have done ok but he isn’t another Milan- a luxury we could never afford in the Championship.

You wonder if Bamford might have been an option after all especially as our strikers both seem to be out of form but then could we have stretched to Onyeka? Probably not and that was a bigger hole to plug

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ccfctommy · 2026-04-21T15:59:12+0100

What a strange thread.

torchomatic · 2026-04-21T16:02:27+0100

clint van damme said:
He wasn't brought in to play this season so why does his lack of minutes matter?

He has an unhealthy obsession with Markelo.

clint van damme · 2026-04-21T16:05:32+0100

shmmeee said:
These are all really interesting theories but I think if someone has been there months and is clearly match fit and isn’t getting on the pitch especially when the others in their position are injured or regularly subbed off then Occam’s razor applies and they’re just not good enough rather than they’re some unique snowflake who needs time to bed in or whatever. The guy is 23 and cost more than EMC, Saka, Simms, etc. if he’s not playing now it’s highly unlikely he’s about to turn into a world beater. It’s not like it’s a position like defence where you’re scared to change it without good reason too. By far the most likely answer here as much as it makes people sad is that he’s just not as good as we thought he was.

My 'theory' is based on an interview with the manager.

Grendel · 2026-04-21T16:09:54+0100

shmmeee said:
These are all really interesting theories but I think if someone has been there months and is clearly match fit and isn’t getting on the pitch especially when the others in their position are injured or regularly subbed off then Occam’s razor applies and they’re just not good enough rather than they’re some unique snowflake who needs time to bed in or whatever. The guy is 23 and cost more than EMC, Saka, Simms, etc. if he’s not playing now it’s highly unlikely he’s about to turn into a world beater. It’s not like it’s a position like defence where you’re scared to change it without good reason too. By far the most likely answer here as much as it makes people sad is that he’s just not as good as we thought he was.

In another thread you were saying Simms cost £8 million.

Hobo · 2026-04-21T16:13:19+0100

shmmeee said:
These are all really interesting theories but I think if someone has been there months and is clearly match fit and isn’t getting on the pitch especially when the others in their position are injured or regularly subbed off then Occam’s razor applies and they’re just not good enough rather than they’re some unique snowflake who needs time to bed in or whatever. The guy is 23 and cost more than EMC, Saka, Simms, etc. if he’s not playing now it’s highly unlikely he’s about to turn into a world beater. It’s not like it’s a position like defence where you’re scared to change it without good reason too. By far the most likely answer here as much as it makes people sad is that he’s just not as good as we thought he was.

Only time will tell. He might not make the grade but I would not take the amount of minutes he has or hasn't played at this stage of the season as an indication of that. The top clubs in the Premier League know it takes at least 12 months for a young foreign player to settle in this country.

Nick · 2026-04-21T16:23:41+0100

What about Dr Claire?

Offhegoes · 2026-04-21T16:30:55+0100

Robinshio said:
Recruitment has been the biggest disappointment Rushworth and onyeka aside Woolf kkh esse brau Min Hyeok probably played 5 games between them

Esse did his part. Giving us options wide when EMC & Saka were struggling or had knocks in Jan / Feb. As did Min Hyeok. I think we underestimate our players. It was clear both were nowhere near EMC & Saka's levels. Markelo has looked sharp however. As for Woolf. He never got a run, and to be honest I think Kitching is better. I think we may see more of KKH next season.

Seymour_East · 2026-04-21T17:11:01+0100

ccfctommy said:
What a strange thread.

As so many are Tommy, as so many are

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