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lewys33

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #141
There is no way on this planet you can disagree with our move to Northampton yet be fine with the wasps move. The hypocrisy is unreal.
 
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Steve.B50

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #142
torchomatic said:
I hope the Trust board will be getting a cap each so they can doff it every time they see Mr Eastwood.
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This is me writing not the Trust,
most do not agree with my personal views.
Unlike a lot on here I do not hide my identity.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #143
Steve.B50 said:
what are you on about, not said anything like "Cov fans doing one"?

i am not saying anything about working with W***s
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No, I said about cov losing fans. You said what will happen will happen...

So the trust aren't working with wasps with anything then?
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #144
It is clearly not our stadium anymore. The wasps branding is everywhere and far more significant than ours.

"can you blame them?"

No, but that certainly doesn't mean we should cosy up to them and accept it for what they have claimed it is.
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #145
lewys33 said:
There is no way on this planet you can disagree with our move to Northampton yet be fine with the wasps move. The hypocrisy is unreal.
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They're slightly different scenarios in we had a home but Wasps didn't, we moved to Northampton when we could and should have stayed at the Ricoh, Wasps have always been a Rugby Club that has never found a home. Yet it doesn't make any of the moves right and neither will be condoned, okay they've (Wasps) made their point today and done well in their first fixture but I'll never watch a Rugby game in that arena unless it's Coventry..


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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #146
RoboCCFC90 said:
They're slightly different scenarios in we had a home but Wasps didn't, we moved to Northampton when we could and should have stayed at the Ricoh, Wasps have always been a Rugby Club that has never found a home. Yet it doesn't make any of the moves right and neither will be condoned, okay they've (Wasps) made their point today and done well in their first fixture but I'll never watch a Rugby game in that arena unless it's Coventry..


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Why didn't they have a home but we did?
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #147
Nick said:
Why didn't they have a home but we did?
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We had the Ricoh, Wasps had been moving from place to place, despite being branded "London" they've never had a home in or around it until now.


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martcov

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #148
lewys33 said:
There is no way on this planet you can disagree with our move to Northampton yet be fine with the wasps move. The hypocrisy is unreal.
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Or against the wasps move because it's "just wrong" and for a new stadium in Nuneaton because "it's ours ". E.g. RFC
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #149
RoboCCFC90 said:
We had the Ricoh, Wasps had been moving from place to place, despite being branded "London" they've never had a home in or around it until now.


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Weren't they at their last ground longer than we were at the ricoh?
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #150
Steve, like I said to you on twitter last night, rugby fans are different and I don't have a problem with the actual fans of the sport going.

All the CRFC fans going will still be going to those games, and will only be going to wasps games for something to do on a sunday and for the love of the sport, not really to drop CRFC and support wasps. I love the sport, but I just have a different opinion. Probably because I support both the football team and the rugby team.

I believe that wasps will have a detrimental effect on both of the teams I support. CRFC are now guaranteed to be a 2nd rate rugby team and CCFC are tenants to a rugby club, which is especially clear from all the new branding on the stadium.

What really grinds my gears is these tossers who are going, that have never been to a CRFC game in their life, don't know the rugby offside rule, and probably even asked where the goalkeeper was after 20 minutes.

They are contributing to the demise of 2 clubs that have history within the city, by attending matches of a franchise rugby club. These same people didn't agree with our move to sixfields and are even going just to spite sisu. It is pathetic.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #151
Thirteen years. And to be honest all the "they've moved around a bit" excuse is bollocks. Moving to Coventry is hardly a natural home is it?

Nick said:
Weren't they at their last ground longer than we were at the ricoh?
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lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #152
martcov said:
Or against the wasps move because it's "just wrong" and for a new stadium in Nuneaton because "it's ours ". E.g. RFC
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There is no reason why the stadium can't be in Coventry now
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #153
RoboCCFC90 said:
We had the Ricoh, Wasps had been moving from place to place, despite being branded "London" they've never had a home in or around it until now.


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They were in Wycombe for 12 years. Hardly temporary and not too far from London is it?

They had also originally agreed to build a New stadium with Wycombe. What happened?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #154
lewys33 said:
There is no reason why the stadium can't be in Coventry now
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Some seem to think the council won't allow it because it is sisu though
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #155
After browsing the Wasps forum, it seems that a few won't be going to every game.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #156
martcov said:
Or against the wasps move because it's "just wrong" and for a new stadium in Nuneaton because "it's ours ". E.g. RFC
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Or coming onto a football forum to defend a rugby team moving in and not actually being bothered about the football?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #157
martcov said:
Or against the wasps move because it's "just wrong" and for a new stadium in Nuneaton because "it's ours ". E.g. RFC
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Wasps have played in various places in London from 1866 until 1923 when they moved to Sudbury in London and stayed there until 1996 when they moved to Loftus Road before moving to Wycombe, which is approx 20 miles from London. They've now moved to the Ricoh which is over 90 miles from what Wasps fans would consider their home.

You are equating that move to us moving approx 3 miles over the city boundary. They aren't even remotely the same.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #158
lewys33 said:
They were in Wycombe for 12 years. Hardly temporary and not too far from London is it?

They had also originally agreed to build a New stadium with Wycombe. What happened?
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I believe planning permission was turned down by the local council
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #159
rupert_bear said:
I believe planning permission was turned down by the local council
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I see. So yh I completely agree with the move 80/90 odd miles up north. Clearly no other option was available.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #160
lewys33 said:
They were in Wycombe for 12 years. Hardly temporary and not too far from London is it?

They had also originally agreed to build a New stadium with Wycombe. What happened?
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The Council rejected the idea of a new Stadium hence why they're here.

12 years.. That's temporary in my view of an establishment that has been in formation since 1867.


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lewys33

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #161
RoboCCFC90 said:
The Council rejected the idea of a new Stadium hence why they're here.

12 years.. That's temporary in my view of an establishment that has been in formation since 1867.


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Don't agree. At all. They had a choice. They were in the same position there as we are now. Should we just go ahead and purchase st James Park??
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #162
This is all thoroughly depressing.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #163
And? I don't think they tried very hard to find land or another venue in their own neck of the woods, did they? Hopefully, it'll all go tits up and they'll fuck off back to the South East.

Maybe we should go down to Adams Park then?

RoboCCFC90 said:
The Council rejected the idea of a new Stadium hence why they're here.

12 years.. That's temporary in my view of an establishment that has been in formation since 1867.


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RoboCCFC90

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #164
lewys33 said:
Don't agree. At all. They had a choice. They were in the same position there as we are now. Should we just go ahead and purchase st James Park??
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I am not saying they didn't have a choice dude, the thing is if your future is never in your hands anyone can pull the carpet from underneath you, now it could have been any other ground it just so happens that when you look at the Ricoh as a facility its top class and not owned by a sustainable sports model.

Again I don't approve of it and I don't condone it I guess what I am trying to say is moving from place to place as they have is never sustainable, they were looking for home, I just wish they had found somewhere else
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #165
lewys33 said:
I see. So yh I completely agree with the move 80/90 odd miles up north. Clearly no other option was available.
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Not for me to agree or disagree that's for their owner Derrick Richardson. According to a lot of Wasp fans they were in serious chance of going burst, again I don.t know how true that is either. I dare say there were other options there;s a number of grounds nearer than ours, MK Dons for example, has black seats too. I think they chose Cov chasing the West Midland support potential. MK Dons is Northampton territory I think.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #166
RoboCCFC90 said:
The Council rejected the idea of a new Stadium hence why they're here.

12 years.. That's temporary in my view of an establishment that has been in formation since 1867.


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So the ricoh wasn't our home?
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #167
Nick said:
So the ricoh wasn't our home?
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I am not saying that isn't the case, but with all the talk of our Football Club moving on from the Ricoh you can't have it both ways despite what the majority think of the alternative.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #168
RoboCCFC90 said:
I am not saying that isn't the case, but with all the talk of our Football Club moving on from the Ricoh you can't have it both ways despite what the majority think of the alternative.
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Have what both ways? People saying the wasps were homeless so they had to move here while saying the ricoh is our home we can't move? Which is it?
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #169
Nick said:
Have what both ways? People saying the wasps were homeless so they had to move here while saying the ricoh is our home we can't move? Which is it?
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I am not saying that they had no choice to move here, what I am saying is they need to find a permanent solution.

Is the Ricoh our home, some people have always considered it not to be? Do the owners consider it to be our long term home? No I don't think they do..

Again, I would love nothing better than for us to buy the Ricoh off Wasps and they fuck off back to London but it's not going to happen..
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #170
RoboCCFC90 said:
I am not saying that they had no choice to move here, what I am saying is they need to find a permanent solution.

Is the Ricoh our home, some people have always considered it not to be? Do the owners consider it to be our long term home? No I don't think they do..

Again, I would love nothing better than for us to buy the Ricoh off Wasps and they fuck off back to London but it's not going to happen..
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We need to find a permanent solution too
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #171
Nick said:
We need to find a permanent solution too
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I agree and I personally don't see the Ricoh as it..
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #172
Upton Park was for sale.


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RoboCCFC90

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #173
stupot07 said:
Upton Park was for sale.


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Wasn't that going for residential?


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stupot07

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #174
RoboCCFC90 said:
Wasn't that going for residential?


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It is now, nothing stopping wasps doing a deal with them before West Ham sold it to property developers.



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Ashdown

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  • Dec 21, 2014
  • #175
rupert_bear said:
Not for me to agree or disagree that's for their owner Derrick Richardson. According to a lot of Wasp fans they were in serious chance of going burst, again I don.t know how true that is either. I dare say there were other options there;s a number of grounds nearer than ours, MK Dons for example, has black seats too. I think they chose Cov chasing the West Midland support potential. MK Dons is Northampton territory I think.
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They obtained a first class stadium on the cheap in a large City whose inhabitants have been crying out for sporting success for 20 years. I don't doubt that after the hedge fund utterly pissed off the local authorities that an idea was sprung perhaps originating right here in Coventry to the Wasps board to make an offer and reap dividends from a huge catchment area in the West Mids and Warks. Wheels within wheels, palms greased, favours for favours and a large degree of secrecy in the deal.

This could work as long as they keep up the huge PR exercise that accompanied the first match but if that all drops off and ticket prices rise then they may experience the same apathy that follows the other Coventry teams.
The arrival of this franchise will only benefit Cov rugby for a short time and whilst they are successful themselves but this can only be detrimental to Coventry City's chances of attracting a decent set of owners capable of turning the club around.
 
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