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This is me writing not the Trust,
most do not agree with my personal views.
Unlike a lot on here I do not hide my identity.
Nick
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No, I said about cov losing fans. You said what will happen will happen...
So the trust aren't working with wasps with anything then?
RoboCCFC90
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They're slightly different scenarios in we had a home but Wasps didn't, we moved to Northampton when we could and should have stayed at the Ricoh, Wasps have always been a Rugby Club that has never found a home. Yet it doesn't make any of the moves right and neither will be condoned, okay they've (Wasps) made their point today and done well in their first fixture but I'll never watch a Rugby game in that arena unless it's Coventry..
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Nick
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Why didn't they have a home but we did?
RoboCCFC90
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We had the Ricoh, Wasps had been moving from place to place, despite being branded "London" they've never had a home in or around it until now.
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Or against the wasps move because it's "just wrong" and for a new stadium in Nuneaton because "it's ours ". E.g. RFC
Nick
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Weren't they at their last ground longer than we were at the ricoh?
lewys33
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Steve, like I said to you on twitter last night, rugby fans are different and I don't have a problem with the actual fans of the sport going.
All the CRFC fans going will still be going to those games, and will only be going to wasps games for something to do on a sunday and for the love of the sport, not really to drop CRFC and support wasps. I love the sport, but I just have a different opinion. Probably because I support both the football team and the rugby team.
I believe that wasps will have a detrimental effect on both of the teams I support. CRFC are now guaranteed to be a 2nd rate rugby team and CCFC are tenants to a rugby club, which is especially clear from all the new branding on the stadium.
What really grinds my gears is these tossers who are going, that have never been to a CRFC game in their life, don't know the rugby offside rule, and probably even asked where the goalkeeper was after 20 minutes.
They are contributing to the demise of 2 clubs that have history within the city, by attending matches of a franchise rugby club. These same people didn't agree with our move to sixfields and are even going just to spite sisu. It is pathetic.
All the CRFC fans going will still be going to those games, and will only be going to wasps games for something to do on a sunday and for the love of the sport, not really to drop CRFC and support wasps. I love the sport, but I just have a different opinion. Probably because I support both the football team and the rugby team.
I believe that wasps will have a detrimental effect on both of the teams I support. CRFC are now guaranteed to be a 2nd rate rugby team and CCFC are tenants to a rugby club, which is especially clear from all the new branding on the stadium.
What really grinds my gears is these tossers who are going, that have never been to a CRFC game in their life, don't know the rugby offside rule, and probably even asked where the goalkeeper was after 20 minutes.
They are contributing to the demise of 2 clubs that have history within the city, by attending matches of a franchise rugby club. These same people didn't agree with our move to sixfields and are even going just to spite sisu. It is pathetic.
torchomatic
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Thirteen years. And to be honest all the "they've moved around a bit" excuse is bollocks. Moving to Coventry is hardly a natural home is it?
lewys33
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There is no reason why the stadium can't be in Coventry now
lewys33
Well-Known Member
They were in Wycombe for 12 years. Hardly temporary and not too far from London is it?
They had also originally agreed to build a New stadium with Wycombe. What happened?
Nick
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Some seem to think the council won't allow it because it is sisu though
Nick
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Or coming onto a football forum to defend a rugby team moving in and not actually being bothered about the football?
chiefdave
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Wasps have played in various places in London from 1866 until 1923 when they moved to Sudbury in London and stayed there until 1996 when they moved to Loftus Road before moving to Wycombe, which is approx 20 miles from London. They've now moved to the Ricoh which is over 90 miles from what Wasps fans would consider their home.
You are equating that move to us moving approx 3 miles over the city boundary. They aren't even remotely the same.
rupert_bear
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I believe planning permission was turned down by the local council
lewys33
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I see. So yh I completely agree with the move 80/90 odd miles up north. Clearly no other option was available.
RoboCCFC90
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The Council rejected the idea of a new Stadium hence why they're here.
12 years.. That's temporary in my view of an establishment that has been in formation since 1867.
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lewys33
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Don't agree. At all. They had a choice. They were in the same position there as we are now. Should we just go ahead and purchase st James Park??
NorthernWisdom
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This is all thoroughly depressing.
torchomatic
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And? I don't think they tried very hard to find land or another venue in their own neck of the woods, did they? Hopefully, it'll all go tits up and they'll fuck off back to the South East.
Maybe we should go down to Adams Park then?
Maybe we should go down to Adams Park then?
RoboCCFC90
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I am not saying they didn't have a choice dude, the thing is if your future is never in your hands anyone can pull the carpet from underneath you, now it could have been any other ground it just so happens that when you look at the Ricoh as a facility its top class and not owned by a sustainable sports model.
Again I don't approve of it and I don't condone it I guess what I am trying to say is moving from place to place as they have is never sustainable, they were looking for home, I just wish they had found somewhere else
rupert_bear
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Not for me to agree or disagree that's for their owner Derrick Richardson. According to a lot of Wasp fans they were in serious chance of going burst, again I don.t know how true that is either. I dare say there were other options there;s a number of grounds nearer than ours, MK Dons for example, has black seats too. I think they chose Cov chasing the West Midland support potential. MK Dons is Northampton territory I think.
Nick
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So the ricoh wasn't our home?
RoboCCFC90
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I am not saying that isn't the case, but with all the talk of our Football Club moving on from the Ricoh you can't have it both ways despite what the majority think of the alternative.
Nick
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Have what both ways? People saying the wasps were homeless so they had to move here while saying the ricoh is our home we can't move? Which is it?
RoboCCFC90
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I am not saying that they had no choice to move here, what I am saying is they need to find a permanent solution.
Is the Ricoh our home, some people have always considered it not to be? Do the owners consider it to be our long term home? No I don't think they do..
Again, I would love nothing better than for us to buy the Ricoh off Wasps and they fuck off back to London but it's not going to happen..
Nick
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RoboCCFC90
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We need to find a permanent solution too
I agree and I personally don't see the Ricoh as it..
RoboCCFC90
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Upton Park was for sale.
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Wasn't that going for residential?
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stupot07
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It is now, nothing stopping wasps doing a deal with them before West Ham sold it to property developers.
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They obtained a first class stadium on the cheap in a large City whose inhabitants have been crying out for sporting success for 20 years. I don't doubt that after the hedge fund utterly pissed off the local authorities that an idea was sprung perhaps originating right here in Coventry to the Wasps board to make an offer and reap dividends from a huge catchment area in the West Mids and Warks. Wheels within wheels, palms greased, favours for favours and a large degree of secrecy in the deal.
This could work as long as they keep up the huge PR exercise that accompanied the first match but if that all drops off and ticket prices rise then they may experience the same apathy that follows the other Coventry teams.
The arrival of this franchise will only benefit Cov rugby for a short time and whilst they are successful themselves but this can only be detrimental to Coventry City's chances of attracting a decent set of owners capable of turning the club around.
