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Ian1779

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #71
Deleted member 5849 said:
I'd wager come a manifesto, they'll have the most centrist policies.

So for someone who calls themselves a centrist, they're the natural home.
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Labour went for that centrist line in 2010-15. They had nothing to offer anyone, just a repetition of Tory spiel on immigration, welfare. It’s one of the valid critiques of the right hand side of the Labour Party currently. None of the imaginative, transformative ideas come from there.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #72
clint van damme said:
It's just really strange on this forum, (in general, not aimed at you), how the opposition come under so much scrutiny yet the sitting government don't.

Johnson promised the moon in his first speech, no mentioned of where the money is coming from, no scrutiny at all, I find it bizarre.
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It seems prevalent much wider than this forum.

Abbott getting figures wrong v Hammond getting them wrong.
Corbyn being vague on policy vs Johnson being vague on policy
McConnell being unqualified for Chancellor vs Osbourne being unqualified
Corbyn spending scrutiny vs Boris spending scrutiny
Labour problems with certain religious groups vs Tory problems with certain religious groups.


I'm not saying Labour shouldn't be being scrutinised/criticised, but I don't see why Tories doing almost identical things seem to be getting a free ride in comparison.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #73
Ian1779 said:
Labour went for that centrist line in 2010-15. They had nothing to offer anyone, just a repetition of Tory spiel on immigration, welfare. It’s one of the valid critiques of the right hand side of the Labour Party currently. None of the imaginative, transformative ideas come from there.
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But it's still centrist.

What's probably more realistic however, is that people don't like to see themselves as right or left, and they'd rather see themselves as centrist... when in actuality they're probably right or left.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #74
Country would be finished with the IRA supporter in charge. Scumbag
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #75
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Country would be finished with the IRA supporter in charge. Scumbag
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Off topic, therefore not valid.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #76
Liquid Gold said:
The leadership of the current Labour party was opposed to that needless war, just like they've been opposed to many of the pointless military exercises that cost billions of pounds and further fans the flames of extremism.
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Some were also opposed to the Good Friday agreement which many seem obsessed with - Corbyn was opposed to the pre-cursor to it
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #77
Deleted member 5849 said:
Off topic, therefore not valid.
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Entirely valid if that’s what people think of Jeremy Corbyn
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #78
Grendel said:
Entirely valid if that’s what people think of Jeremy Corbyn
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Not really. If the OP doesn't want us deviatingb from his original post, it's off topic, and therefore not valid.

Dom's hardly someone who embraces thought anyway.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #79
Deleted member 5849 said:
Not really. If the OP doesn't want us deviatingb from his original post, it's off topic, and therefore not valid.

Dom's hardly someone who embraces thought anyway.
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Doesn't need much thought when it comes to Jeremy Corbyn tbh
 

Ian1779

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #80
Grendel said:
Some were also opposed to the Good Friday agreement which many seem obsessed with - Corbyn was opposed to the pre-cursor to it
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Corbyn wanted peace. You know that.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #81
Deleted member 5849 said:
Not really. If the OP doesn't want us deviatingb from his original post, it's off topic, and therefore not valid.

Dom's hardly someone who embraces thought anyway.
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It’s valid as it shows a view that Corbyn cannot be trusted and indeed is an enemy of the state - therefore akin to a banana republic dictator his spending and utopian promises are a falsehood to gain power and cause havoc
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #82
Ian1779 said:
Corbyn wanted peace. You know that.
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He wanted a unified Ireland and was happy to see UK citizens perish for it

He’s a c**t and many people who remember him in the 80’s will never vote for him
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #83
Grendel said:
He wanted a unified Ireland and was happy to see UK citizens perish for it

He’s a c**t and many people who remember him in the 80’s will never vote for him
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Grendel talking sense once again!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #84
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Doesn't need much thought when it comes to Jeremy Corbyn tbh
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Not a lot's still more than you put into your posts.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #85
Ian1779 said:
Corbyn wanted peace. You know that.
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Peace is too difficult a concept for those full of negativity.

Odd that, given our cuirrent PM wants us all to have a positive attitude, then as soon as somebody comes up with a positive idea or four, it's all negative nancy.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #86
Deleted member 5849 said:
Not a lot's still more than you put into your posts.
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Well funny you are m8
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #87
Deleted member 5849 said:
Peace is too difficult a concept for those full of negativity.

Odd that, given our cuirrent PM wants us all to have a positive attitude, then as soon as somebody comes up with a positive idea or four, it's all negative nancy.
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Corbyn did not want peace - stop talking bollocks - he was a minor MP who was always mingling with murderers. The Ira and Sinn Fein did not want peace when Corbyn was arrested while defending the murderer Patrick Magee. Imagine for one second if that was a Tory MP leading the party in twenty years ago was arrested for defending Thomas Meyler and his rights and then selling a Britain first book after the murder of a sitting MP

It doesn’t matter what you think as that’s the baggage Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott drag round and it makes them in itself unelectable
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #88
Deleted member 5849 said:
Peace is too difficult a concept for those full of negativity.

Odd that, given our cuirrent PM wants us all to have a positive attitude, then as soon as somebody comes up with a positive idea or four, it's all negative nancy.
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That might well explain why there seems to be a prevalence of people in our country that seem happy to nuke the shit out of another.
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #89
Lasted nearly 3 pages before the thread went to shit. Better than I expected TBH.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #90
chiefdave said:
Lasted nearly 3 pages before the thread went to shit. Better than I expected TBH.
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That’s what happens when you have a potential PM with serious baggage - he’s unelectable and he’s history
 
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Ian1779

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #91
Grendel said:
Corbyn did not want peace - stop talking bollocks - he was a minor MP who was always mingling with murderers. The Ira and Sinn Fein did not want peace when Corbyn was arrested while defending the murderer Patrick Magee. Imagine for one second if that was a Tory MP leading the party in twenty years ago was arrested for defending Thomas Meyler and his rights and then selling a Britain first book after the murder of a sitting MP

It doesn’t matter what you think as that’s the baggage Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott drag round and it makes them in itself unelectable
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The Tory leadership prefers to mingle with murderous dictatorships as well as selling them the tools to kill - shall we expect the same condemnation?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #92
Grendel said:
Corbyn did not want peace - stop talking bollocks - he was a minor MP who was always mingling with murderers. The Ira and Sinn Fein did not want peace when Corbyn was arrested while defending the murderer Patrick Magee. Imagine for one second if that was a Tory MP leading the party in twenty years ago was arrested for defending Thomas Meyler and his rights and then selling a Britain first book after the murder of a sitting MP

It doesn’t matter what you think as that’s the baggage Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott drag round and it makes them in itself unelectable
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For someone who’s thought process doesn’t include Northern Ireland you’re all of a sudden very opinionated on it. For some reason.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #93
Grendel said:
That’s what happens when you have a potential PM with serious baggage - he’s unelectable and he’s history
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Errr. Boris. We’re living it.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #94
Ian1779 said:
The Tory leadership prefers to mingle with murderous dictatorships as well as selling them the tools to kill - shall we expect the same condemnation?
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Actually no we shouldn’t - you can waffle on all you like about Saudi Arabia - Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell will
Forever be remembered by many people as maverick MPs who made a deliberate decision to side with an institution that was wreaking havoc on British soil.

They frequently attended IRA funerals - they frequently aligned to rallies of known murderers - Patrick Magee was responsible for the murderer of a British MP. An act Corbyn has refused to condemn. McDonnell even once made a joint speech with a convicted murderer on the run.

He has alienated the Jewish community with many many issues. Siding with Hamas, laying a wreath for a known murderer of Jewish athletes, liking a clearly anti Semitic cartoon.

Jeremy Corbyn has a very unfortunate habit of siding with some very very unpleasant people and then oddly says he condemns all violence.

I don’t care as id never vote labour anyway but the constant “what about the tories” is an irrelevance

It’s what about labour. It’s what about great Labour leaders of the past who’d never even consider the reprehensible things Corbyn and McDonnell have done.

He’s unelectable - many will not vote for him.
 
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Johnnythespider

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #95
Grendel said:
No tuition fees also a cynical gimmick to bribe the youth which offers no benefit to the majority
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Did you pay any ?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #96
Grendel said:
made a deliberate decision to side with an institution that was wreaking havoc on British soil.
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You do know that ISIS was initially funded by Saudi Arabia? If you wanted to be really fickle Bin Laden was also a Saudi and trained by the West.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #97
skybluetony176 said:
You do know that ISIS was initially funded by Saudi Arabia? If you wanted to be really fickle Bin Laden was also a Saudi and trained by the West.
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As far as I’m aware no sitting Tory MP let alone it’s leader was in the House of Commons lobby trying to sell Bin Ladens memoirs
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #98
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Country would be finished with the IRA supporter in charge. Scumbag
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I bet you voted for the Brexit party, despite them having no problems with having pro-IRA candidates.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #99
Grendel said:
Actually no we shouldn’t - you can waffle on all you like about Saudi Arabia - Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell will
Forever be remembered by many people as maverick MPs who made a deliberate decision to side with an institution that was wreaking havoc on British soil.

They frequently attended IRA funerals - they frequently aligned to rallies of known murderers - Patrick Magee was responsible for the murderer of a British MP. An act Corbyn has refused to condemn. McDonnell even once made a joint speech with a convicted murderer on the run.

He has alienated the Jewish community with many many issues. Siding with Hamas, laying a wreath for a known murderer of Jewish athletes, liking a clearly anti Semitic cartoon.

Jeremy Corbyn has a very unfortunate habit of siding with some very very unpleasant people and then oddly says he condemns all violence.

I don’t care as id never vote labour anyway but the constant “what about the tories” is an irrelevance

It’s what about labour. It’s what about great Labour leaders of the past who’d never even consider the reprehensible things Corbyn and McDonnell have done.

He’s unelectable - many will not vote for him.
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Shall we put you down as a maybe?
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #100
Johnnythespider said:
Did you pay any ?
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No but of course this was another dumbing down strategy of the socialists

Having realised the failure of stats communist education (aka the comprehensive system) education has systematically been dumbed down and standard eroded. University is a pointless exercise in boredom, drudgery and non education

I doubt Mr Corbyn will be suggesting a return to a real degree based system and a real A level system which requires more than being able to remember your name to attain a place.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #101
Grendel said:
He wanted a unified Ireland and was happy to see UK citizens perish for it

He’s a c**t and many people who remember him in the 80’s will never vote for him
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Both British and Irish citizens were killed by republican and loyalists terrorists.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #102
Sick Boy said:
Both British and Irish citizens were Killeen by republican and loyalists terrorists.
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Again so what ?
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #103
Grendel said:
No but of course this was another dumbing down strategy of the socialists

Having realised the failure of stats communist education (aka the comprehensive system) education has systematically been dumbed down and standard eroded. University is a pointless exercise in boredom, drudgery and non education

I doubt Mr Corbyn will be suggesting a return to a real degree based system and a real A level system which requires more than being able to remember your name to attain a place.
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The education system has been ruined for many reasons. Underfunding is one, Labour and the Tories obsession with free schools/academies (an attempt at privatisation by stealth that most have given up on), league tables, OFSTED I could go on.

I kind of agree with you about too many people being driven through the university route - but this has occurred because all the vocational funding, apprenticeship funding has been taken away. That is what has caused that surge for Uni. If you properly fund the other routes it can make a massive difference.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #104
Grendel said:
As far as I’m aware no sitting Tory MP let alone it’s leader was in the House of Commons lobby trying to sell Bin Ladens memoirs
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Too busy contributing to them with tails of funding and training.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 19, 2019
  • #105
Grendel said:
Again so what ?
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Just saying, not sure why you'd focus on UK citizens when other country's citizens were killed.

Let's not forget that the DUP have connections to paramilitaries either, yet it seems okay for the Tories to be propped up by such people.
 
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